Cowboys looking at teams for RB trade?

[MichaelWinicki]

I like how you rounded down at 1266. He was closer to 1300 yards. He also missed two games. His production last year was actually on par with the rest of his career in terms of averages.

He was dinged up– another sign of an aging player.

I know all about AP in 2013... I drafted him in the first round of my fantasy league for that season and kept waiting for his 2012 season to show up.

 

[Galian Beast]

He was dinged up– another sign of an aging player.

I know all about AP in 2013... I drafted him in the first round of my fantasy league for that season and kept waiting for his 2012 season to show up.

2012 was a huge year for him, compare 2013 to the rest of his career, and you'll see that it was well in line.

 

[MichaelWinicki]

2012 was a huge year for him, compare 2013 to the rest of his career, and you'll see that it was well in line.

4.5 YPC isn't knock out.

Yeah, you want to pimp for AP... I get that. But that doesn't mean the Cowboys are going to acquire the guy.

Consider tapping the brakes and giving this some time.

You might be pleasantly surprised.

 

[Galian Beast]

4.5 YPC isn't knock out.

Yeah, you want to pimp for AP... I get that. But that doesn't mean the Cowboys are going to acquire the guy.

Consider tapping the brakes and giving this some time.

You might be pleasantly surprised.

Look at his YPC through out his career. It's a misleading stat because it doesn't take into account context. AP has played his entire career with 8-9 guys in the box, yet he still gets the same production of running backs that only see 7. He is the engine that makes Minnesota's offense go, pretty much by himself. They don't have a stellar offensive line either.

It seems like your familiarity with this player is only through looking at the stat sheets, and it doesn't tell the whole story.

 

[MichaelWinicki]

Look at his YPC through out his career. It's a misleading stat because it doesn't take into account context. AP has played his entire career with 8-9 guys in the box, yet he still gets the same production of running backs that only see 7. He is the engine that makes Minnesota's offense go, pretty much by himself. They don't have a stellar offensive line either.

It seems like your familiarity with this player is only through looking at the stat sheets, and it doesn't tell the whole story.

The topic has been beaten to death and I remain unconvinced.

And until he's a Cowboy I'm not going to spend a lot of time thinking about the guys playing ability.

 

[Broges74]

Miller has my vote. I doubt he will be available.

Cj2k would be next. Only due to low cost.

 

[big dog cowboy]

Why do people insist he's the starter? Ryan Williams even has more guaranteed money than DMC, so I just don't understand this conclusion. It's almost unanimously agreed upon on every Cowboys related twitter account I follow that Randle is going to start and DMC will handle most 3rd downs initially unless an outside RB is traded for. (And no I'm not talking about AP)

I don't know why people think DMC will start. Perhaps they think that since we signed him right after losing Murray so he is Murray's replacement. A lot of the mediots think that way and said so when we signed DMC. But I agree with your whole post 100% - Randle starts, DMC on 3rd downs with a sprinkling of Williams unless we get another RB. We might I have no idea what the FO has in mind. It wouldn't surprise me if they have something planned.

 

[dallasdave]

Miller has my vote. I doubt he will be available.

Cj2k would be next. Only due to low cost.

There will be an upgrade.

 

[JBS]

Go watch Lamar Miller tape and tell me why he's such a big improvement over Randle

Before doing any research, Miller was my top option, I thought he'd be a great fit here...then I watched the tape and came away very unimpressed...

He catches the ball very well out of the backfield and he has top end speed..but he isn't very dynamic..doesn't make people miss very often...he's really not that impressive

 

[MichaelWinicki]

Go watch Lamar Miller tape and tell me why he's such a big improvement over Randle

Before doing any research, Miller was my top option, I thought he'd be a great fit here...then I watched the tape and came away very unimpressed...

He catches the ball very well out of the backfield and he has top end speed..but he isn't very dynamic..doesn't make people miss very often...he's really not that impressive

I think Miller is acceptable but he's not an upgrade over Randle except he has more of a track record.

If Moreno hadn't gotten injured last season he would have ended up with more carries for the Dolphins IMO.

 

[superonyx]

Knile Davis would be upgrade over Randle.

What has Knile Davis shown that makes this true? The guy has averaged 3.5 YPC each year for the only 2 years he has been in the league. You cant blame the offensive like people do with McFadden since Jamal Charles doesn't seem to have this problem.

If I had to pick Joseph Randle or Knile Davis I am going Randle all day.

 

[Seanleebaby]

I don't see the real benefit in getting any back up RB's from the teams mentioned.
Are any of them better than Joseph Randle?
I am not saying that Randle is that great. However, neither is any back riding the Dolphins, Saints, or Chiefs bench.

This is false. Lamar Miller and Knile Davis are great young running back options.

 

[Seanleebaby]

What has Knile Davis shown that makes this true? The guy has averaged 3.5 YPC each year for the only 2 years he has been in the league. You cant blame the offensive like people do with McFadden since Jamal Charles doesn't seem to have this problem.

If I had to pick Joseph Randle or Knile Davis I am going Randle all day.

It's called watching the games not looking at stats. Big, physical, and runs a 4.3 40. He's shown more than anything DMC has shown.

 

[superonyx]

This is false. Lamar Miller and Knile Davis are great young running back options.

How can this be false? I said I don't see any benefit in getting any backup running backs from these teams.....I don't. It's my opinion....Unless I am lying then it cant really be false now can it?
BTW.....Lamar Miller isn't a back up running back so he wouldn't be counted in my original statement.

 

[Seanleebaby]

How can this be false? I said I don't see any benefit in getting any backup running backs from these teams.....I don't. It's my opinion....Unless I am lying then it cant really be false now can it?
BTW.....Lamar Miller isn't a back up running back so he wouldn't be counted in my original statement.

He actually is the backup running back. Brothers a Dolphins fan so I have good insight here. Has never been trusted by that organization (which baffles me because he's a pretty good back.) He was left off the field in many of miami's crucial moments, especially as the season progressed. I fully expect Jay Ajayi to surplant him as the starter in training camp.

As far as your falsity goes, it is false. Knile Davis is the best back up RB in the NFL and is an upgrade over any thing the Cowboys have now.

 

[superonyx]

It's called watching the games not looking at stats. Big, physical, and runs a 4.3 40. He's shown more than anything DMC has shown.

Oh so you have watched these Chiefs games I guess? BS
You want to claim he is good and don't want to look at what he has produced but you lust after him over a 40 time?

So if you watched his games then surely you saw how many games he has played where he looked like he couldn't get out of his own way?

The man has a 3.5 YPC average over 2 seasons.

2013 = 8 games where he averaged less than 3 YPC
2014 = 10 games where he averaged less than 3 YPC....

Jaamal Charles:

2013 = 1 game with less than 3 YPC
2014 = 1 game with less than 3 YPC....

Say what you want but he has not been productive at all.

I will stick with Joseph Randle.

 

[ConstantReboot]

Lamar Miller Highlights.

Would love him with a star on his helmet.

 

[Seanleebaby]

Oh so you have watched these Chiefs games I guess? BS
You want to claim he is good and don't want to look at what he has produced but you lust after him over a 40 time?

So if you watched his games then surely you saw how many games he has played where he looked like he couldn't get out of his own way?

The man has a 3.5 YPC average over 2 seasons.

2013 = 8 games where he averaged less than 3 YPC
2014 = 10 games where he averaged less than 3 YPC....

Jaamal Charles:

2013 = 1 game with less than 3 YPC
2014 = 1 game with less than 3 YPC....

Say what you want but he has not been productive at all.

I will stick with Joseph Randle.

I own Jamal Charles and Knile Davis in dynasty. I am fully aware of what both offer when it comes to toting the rock.

My argument for him over Randle is simply a matter of volume. Randle seems like a good player, but here are his numbers when he carries the ball more than ten times a game:

11 for 17 yards
19 for 65 yards
14 for 26 yards
13 for 37 yards

My point: if you're projecting him as more than a skat back at this point you're kidding yourself. He could take over the starting role, but you don't do that expecting him to carry it 20+ times a game.

Knile has already had to carry the workload for the Chiefs in Charles's absence. He has 2 100 yard games and another another one with 80 yards and two touchdowns. Knile is also more in the mold of Murray. If you pair Knile with Randle as a 1-2 punch, you're talking about a solid foundation with the chance of expanding their ceiling. Their play complements each other well.

 

[superonyx]

He actually is the backup running back. Brothers a Dolphins fan so I have good insight here. Has never been trusted by that organization (which baffles me because he's a pretty good back.) He was left off the field in many of miami's crucial moments, especially as the season progressed. I fully expect Jay Ajayi to surplant him as the starter in training camp.

As far as your falsity goes, it is false. Knile Davis is the best back up RB in the NFL and is an upgrade over any thing the Cowboys have now.

So Jay Ajayi is now the starter because your brother says he is? Lamar Miller was a top 10 back last year but he is now a back up because your brother likes watching Jay Ajayi's youtube highlight videos.

Speaking of Falsity......Knile Davis isn't the best backup running back in the league. I'm pretty sure Giovanni Bernard, Fred Jackson, Ryan Matthews, CJ Spiller or Mark Ingram and the list goes on are all better than Knile Davis.

I don't care how fast he ran the 40 and how much he weighs. That doesn't equal success in the NFL. Especially when you keep putting up games where you have 9 carries for 11 yards.

 

[Seanleebaby]

So Jay Ajayi is now the starter because your brother says he is? Lamar Miller was a top 10 back last year but he is now a back up because your brother likes watching Jay Ajayi's youtube highlight videos.

Speaking of Falsity......Knile Davis isn't the best backup running back in the league. I'm pretty sure Giovanni Bernard, Fred Jackson, Ryan Matthews, CJ Spiller or Mark Ingram and the list goes on are all better than Knile Davis.

I don't care how fast he ran the 40 and how much he weighs. That doesn't equal success in the NFL. Especially when you keep putting up games where you have 9 carries for 11 yards.

Bernard definitely. Forgot about him. The rest are very questionable at this point.

You're gonna love the stats I pulled up on Randle if you like 9 carries for 11 yards btw.