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[Mansta54]

Actually, I thought Romo showed serious signs of regression last season. He's reached his ceiling IMO.

I didn't see that at all, he's had better years and he does a lot on his own with no blocking and zero running game. That makes a QB's job extremely difficult to be success but he still gets it done and he's tough as nails.

 

[TheSport78]

I didn't see that at all, he's had better years and he does a lot on his own with no blocking and zero running game. That makes a QB's job extremely difficult to be success but he still gets it done and he's tough as nails.

Sure, but there were times where he had adequate protection, and still made critical errors. I understand the OL needs serious upgrading, but the OL wasn't 100% responsible. No position is ever solely responsible IMO. At almost 33 years old, you need to have the successor in place or we'll be stuck with a Quincy Carter or a bunch of one-year stop gaps like Vinny, Bledsoe, etc.

 

[Mansta54]

Sure, but there were times where he had adequate protection, and still made critical errors. I understand the OL needs serious upgrading, but the OL wasn't 100% responsible. No position is ever solely responsible IMO. At almost 33 years old, you need to have the successor in place or we'll be stuck with a Quincy Carter or a bunch of one-year stop gaps like Vinny, Bledsoe, etc.

Romo does wonders behind a awful oline, without Romo this team would win 2-3 games. You and I just see this differently, a solid oline and runing game is major to the QB success. Romo has been carrying this team for years. I'm not sure about the critical errors you said he made either with adequate protection, the pass in DC was definately one of them and even on that pass he was rushed with hands in his face from up the middle. We need to give Romo help so he doesn't have to do so much on his own.

 

[TheSport78]

Romo does wonders behind a awful oline, without Romo this team would win 2-3 games. You and I just see this differently, a solid oline and runing game is major to the QB success. Romo has been carrying this team for years. I'm not sure about the critical errors you said he made either with adequate protection, the pass in DC was definately one of them and even on that pass he was rushed with hands in his face from up the middle. We need to give Romo help so he doesn't have to do so much on his own.

Yup. We can agree to disagree, but an example would be those 1st two INT's against Washington and they weren't a result of bad OL protection.

 

[Mansta54]

Yup. We can agree to disagree, but an example would be those 1st two INT's against Washington and they weren't a result of bad OL protection.

He's not perfect but he has to be close to it when playing behind that oline. Also, the reciever plays a big part in it too. Did he run the correct route, did he fight for the ball, did he make the correct read while running the route. Its NOT as cut and dry as you make it seem. Just sayin!!!

 

[TheSport78]

He's not perfect but he has to be close to it when playing behind that oline. Also, the reciever plays a big part in it too. Did he run the correct route, did he fight for the ball, did he make the correct read while running the route. Its NOT as cut and dry as you make it seem. Just sayin!!!

No, that's what I'm saying as well. It's not as cut and dry to just blame the OL. It's a team game, but when I went back and watched the games, Romo showed signs of regression. Just my opinion and two cents.

 

[Mansta54]

No, that's what I'm saying as well. It's not as cut and dry to just blame the OL. It's a team game, but when I went back and watched the games, Romo showed signs of regression. Just my opinion and two cents.

The OL is what gets everything started, without a solid OL nothing gets done. I'm sure you know that it all starts up front.

 

[TheSport78]

The OL is what gets everything started, without a solid OL nothing gets done. I'm sure you know that it all starts up front.

It helps to have an elite or above average OL, but it's not necessary to win a championship.

Did Baltimore have an elite OL? No, but their QB was very efficient and didn't TURN THE BALL OVER...something that Romo has a problem avoiding.

 

[Mansta54]

It helps to have an elite or above average OL, but it's not necessary to win a championship.

Did Baltimore have an elite OL? No, but their QB was very efficient and didn't TURN THE BALL OVER...something that Romo has a problem avoiding.

Ravens oline was good and they could run the ball with Rice, that helps a QB a great deal.

 

[TheSport78]

Ravens oline was good and they could run the ball with Rice, that helps a QB a great deal.

Ravens OL was average at best. It's easy to just talk about talent, but the players have to believe in the system they're running. It's not simply about talent.

I'm not denying an above average or elite OL helps a QB, but it's possible to win with an average one.

 

[Mansta54]

Ravens OL was average at best. It's easy to just talk about talent, but the players have to believe in the system they're running. It's not simply about talent.

I'm not denying an above average or elite OL helps a QB, but it's possible to win with an average one.

Oh I agree with you there but our oline wasn't close to being even average, they're awful.

 

[TheSport78]

Oh I agree with you there but our oline wasn't close to being even average, they're awful.

I'm with ya. Let's see what happens when they upgrade 1 or 2 spots on the OL. I'm hoping it's RT and one of the guard spots.

 

[Mansta54]

I'm with ya. Let's see what happens when they upgrade 1 or 2 spots on the OL. I'm hoping it's RT and one of the guard spots.

Yea lets hope they do that. I like Costa at center, I'm not down on him like others. I think he can get it done, he's tough and works hard and he's young. He was thrown in ther unexpectently when we cut Gurode. Think he'll be fine but that RT and OG position needs to be upgraded.

 

[ElGatoGrande]

In a year when the depth is good at the positions we're most in need of, it'd make sense to gather extra picks. We won't be able to do much, if anything, in the vet free agent market, so our draft picks should afford us the best opportunity to grow this season. If we're, indeed, fortunate enough to deal for extra picks, let's just hope they're put to use wisely.

unfortunately the other GMs like deep drafts too, and every team in the league needs at least one OL and one DL player. Trading for other team's draft picks this year may be a tough bargain to pull off,,, and expensive!

 

[TheFinisher]

Garrett needs to win in 2013 to keep his job, therefore he's likely to value 2013 picks more than 2014 picks... which he may not be around to use.

 

[Risen Star]

Garrett needs to win in 2013 to keep his job, therefore he's likely to value 2013 picks more than 2014 picks... which he may not be around to use.

Jason Garrett doesn't make the decisions in our war room.

 

[TheFinisher]

Jason Garrett doesn't make the decisions in our war room.

He's absolutely involved with the decisions inside the war room, and is the one opinion who Jerry Jones is likely to listen to. Keep in mind Jerry wants Garrett to succeed this year too, he has a good relationship with him, respects him, and wants him to be our longterm HC. Jerry knows just as well as JG that he needs to win this year.

 

[Mansta54]

He's absolutely involved with the decisions inside the war room, and is the one opinion who Jerry Jones is likely to listen to. Keep in mind Jerry wants Garrett to succeed this year too, he has a good relationship with him, respects him, and wants him to be our longterm HC. Jerry knows just as well as JG that he needs to win this year.

You're abslutely correct but you can forget about convincing him that its true, his agenda and mind is set.

 

[jobberone]

While it's not surprising to hear some of this, I'm still astounded by the lack of understanding. There have been very few QBs to ever play the game that have Romo's elusiveness and ability to make something from nothing. The only QB that I've ever seen with equal ability is Fran Tarkenton. And there's nothing wrong with the rest of his game beyond the occasional Romo moment.

While Romo has come up short in big games more than once so did Tarkenton, Fouts, and Kelly to mention a few.

We won't see the likes of Romo for awhile unless we get very, very lucky.

 

[Mansta54]

While it's not surprising to hear some of this, I'm still astounded by the lack of understanding. There have been very few QBs to ever play the game that have Romo's elusiveness and ability to make something from nothing. The only QB that I've ever seen with equal ability is Fran Tarkenton. And there's nothing wrong with the rest of his game beyond the occasional Romo moment.

While Romo has come up short in big games more than once so did Tarkenton, Fouts, and Kelly to mention a few.

We won't see the likes of Romo for awhile unless we get very, very lucky.

Well said!!