CFZ Cowboys players who probably won't be back next year

[Canadian BoyzFan]

Agreed. Alot of these guys (especially on defense) should be cheap and good enough to play some starter snaps so they stay for depth.

Tyron if he's willing to sign the same deal will be back (basically swing tackle base rate with incentives that still put him at less than a million a start). I think tackle will go early in the draft so Tyron, early draft pick, and Steele are your 3 tackles

RB they pursue in draft. LB and DT need to beef up big time so significant free agent and draft. Hankins is cheap so he probably does another one year deal

From a draft value standpoint. You can get a quality Center prospect in the second or third rounds.

Bass LG
Tyler OT

 

[Montanalo]

Unfortunately, the retention of any Cowboy FA and/or the addition of an outside FA, will be strongly impacted by Dak's contract (whether that is a June 1 cut or extension)

 

[LACowboysFan1]

One thing that I hear and read about Dallas is that "Well, drafting 24th they can't get a top qb prospect"

Oh really? Where was Brock Purdy drafted? Dead last that year. Where was Aaron Rodgers drafted? 24th, same as Dallas this year. How about Brees? 32nd. Russell Wilson? 75th. All of the last 3 won a SB.

Sure, it's easier to get a top qb drafting very high, our own Troy Aikman was a no. 1 pick.

But let's not use our draft position as an excuse, SB winning quarterbacks CAN be had without drafting in the top 5..

 

[Bobhaze]

One thing that I hear and read about Dallas is that "Well, drafting 24th they can't get a top qb prospect"

Oh really? Where was Brock Purdy drafted? Dead last that year. Where was Aaron Rodgers drafted? 24th, same as Dallas this year. How about Brees? 32nd. Russell Wilson? 75th. All of the last 3 won a SB.

Sure, it's easier to get a top qb drafting very high, our own Troy Aikman was a no. 1 pick.

But let's not use our draft position as an excuse, SB winning quarterbacks CAN be had without drafting in the top 5..

Agreed. It‘s hard to have success acquiring a good young QB if you almost never draft one. The Cowboys have only drafted 5 QBs since 2000…5. Here they are and when they were drafted:

• 2001- Quincy Carter round 2
• 2007- Isiah Stanback- round 4 (never took a snap as a QB because he was converted to WR)
• 2009- Stephen McGee, round 4 (part of the worst draft in team history)
• 2016- Dak Prescott, round 4
• 2020- Ben DiNucci- round 7

That‘s it. In 24 drafts, the Cowboys have selected 5 QBs, none in round one.Contrast that with the niners who over the same period have drafted 12 QBs.

As I’ve said many times, you can’t catch a fish if you don’t throw a hook in the water.

 

[BleedSilverandBlue]

Agree with everyone, except Tryon and Lewis

Sign Tryon to a team friendly deal as the backup swing tackle. Also sign Lewis as he will be the slot corner with Diggs and Bland the starters.

You then draft a center with the first pick. Tackle is deep in this draft. You can draft one in round two. Round three is where you choose your LBer. The RB position is addressed after that.

Be aggressive this offseason. Restructure Lawrence, Diggs, Steele, and Wilson. You can gain between 30 and 45 million in cap space. When Prescott gets extended next year have the cap hit be 30 million. This saves another 30 million on cap. You then have between 60 to 75 million minus 20 million the team is over now, leaving 40 to 55 million for free agency.

Get one of these two, Christian Wilkins20 million(younger more expensive) or DJ Reader15 million(injured cheaper). Also go after one of these two, Patrick Queen15 million(more expensive) or Wagner10 million or less(cheaper one year option). Lastly I would go after one of two Jacobs12 million(26 and expensive) or Henry5 million(older cheaper).

Getting these three players will help when in draft. 45 for the most expensive options and 30 million on the cheaper options.

You can make some of the players that aren't coming back June 1st cuts gaining more space for the season.

If Dallas went out and got Wager or Queen and then Wilkins or Reader I would lose my mind.

Your issues getting run on would probably be solved just like that.

 

[Chasing6]

Based on the guys I think we need to let go and based on our obvious weaknesses, this off-season will require major talent upgrades at the following position groups:

• LB (biggest defensive need)
• OL (getting old and need a C or T)
• DL (need some run stuffers)
• RB (A huge need going into 2023 that was overlooked)
• (Maybe) Safety
• QB - I would draft a QB regardless of whether we keep Dak or not. Based on past history I can almost 100% guarantee you this front office won’t draft anyone until round 6 or 7.

What about Trey Lance???

 

[12+88=7]

If Dallas went out and got Wager or Queen and then Wilkins or Reader I would lose my mind.

Your issues getting run on would probably be solved just like that.

I know it's a pipe dream, but if they were aggressive like I stated, it would be possible.

 

[krs1bro]

IMO......I would not extend Dak and just eat the 60 mil cap hit so they can move on from him. Try and keep your core players together sprinkled in with what cap space is available. Maybe 9-8 season and of coarse the first round playoff exit.

 

[MikeT22]

No. But he’s essentially where Armstrong was 4 years ago. Drafted around the same place. Just my opinion, but they drafted him to be in a position to move on from Armstrong at a lesser cost.

Except Dorrance played in 15 games his rookie year. Fehoko couldn’t get off the inactive list.

 

[GMO415]

There are multiple players on our roster, many who will be FAs next year who likely will not be on the roster next year either because of cap restrictions or just needing to move on. I’m intentionally leaving Dak off this list because that is a much more complex situation that requires a separate category. I’m not against moving on from Dak, but don’t want to discuss it here.

Some of these names will be obvious, some may not. Most of the guys I’m about to list will be FAs. Here are my predictions for players we will (should) be considered for an exit:

• Tyler Biadaz- finished his rookie deal and will command a hefty raise. But IMO, he’s just ok. He’s a good starter but he’s not worth a big raise on a team full of cap challenges.
• Michael Gallup- has never been the same since his knee injury 2 years ago. His contract is structured for an out this year. He gone.
• Tony Pollard- after one year on the cap at $10 mil a season, he’s going into 2024 with no contract. He will not be worth the contract he will garner next year. He’s gone.
• Leighton Vander Esch- LVE - His neck injury is a quality of life thing. He needs to retire.
• Dorance Armstrong- he’s a good but not great player who benefits greatly being a part time pass rusher opposite Parsons. He will get offers for more than we should pay.
• Stephon Gilmore- he is a FA. Honestly at 34, he is probably mostly done. We have Diggs on a big deal and Bland. Time to move on.
• Tyron Smith- He is signed through 2024 I think. But honestly, even though he had an ok year in terms of not missing as many games as he had been missing before. That’s a low bar. He will be an old 34 next year. He’s not owed that much. I would move on. He’s no longer dependable. I love Tyron. He was truly a great player; a great player who‘s time is up.
• Jourdan Lewis- He will be 29 next year. He had a pretty good year last year but is he worth getting a raise on a cap strapped team?
• Jayron Kearse- Kearse has been good. Great? No. He’s probably going to get some higher offers that make it hard to keep him. I could see him following wherever Dan Quinn lands.
• Dante Fowler- he’s a good pass rusher but is he worth keeping at the same price or more? No.
• Neville Gallimore- finished his rookie deal and is just a rotational guy with only occasional flashes. JAG.
• Noah Igbinoghene - guy we got in the KJoseph trade last fall. Played very little when it mattered. His rookie deal is up. So…bye.
• Sean McKeon- Now the 4th or 5th TE who is mainly a blocker. We have a better TE room than 2 years ago.

There are a few other FAs that may be gone. Some of the guys above may also sign here again. Many of the replacements for the guys above would likely come from the draft or cheaper FAs. Will be a very interesting offseason to say the least.

Happy trails.

 

[speedkilz88]

Except Dorrance played in 15 games his rookie year. Fehoko couldn’t get off the inactive list.

There was zero depth back then.

 

[Kingofholland]

There are multiple players on our roster, many who will be FAs next year who likely will not be on the roster next year either because of cap restrictions or just needing to move on. I’m intentionally leaving Dak off this list because that is a much more complex situation that requires a separate category. I’m not against moving on from Dak, but don’t want to discuss it here.

Some of these names will be obvious, some may not. Most of the guys I’m about to list will be FAs. Here are my predictions for players we will (should) be considered for an exit:

• Tyler Biadaz- finished his rookie deal and will command a hefty raise. But IMO, he’s just ok. He’s a good starter but he’s not worth a big raise on a team full of cap challenges.
• Michael Gallup- has never been the same since his knee injury 2 years ago. His contract is structured for an out this year. He gone.
• Tony Pollard- after one year on the cap at $10 mil a season, he’s going into 2024 with no contract. He will not be worth the contract he will garner next year. He’s gone.
• Leighton Vander Esch- LVE - His neck injury is a quality of life thing. He needs to retire.
• Dorance Armstrong- he’s a good but not great player who benefits greatly being a part time pass rusher opposite Parsons. He will get offers for more than we should pay.
• Stephon Gilmore- he is a FA. Honestly at 34, he is probably mostly done. We have Diggs on a big deal and Bland. Time to move on.
• Tyron Smith- He is signed through 2024 I think. But honestly, even though he had an ok year in terms of not missing as many games as he had been missing before. That’s a low bar. He will be an old 34 next year. He’s not owed that much. I would move on. He’s no longer dependable. I love Tyron. He was truly a great player; a great player who‘s time is up.
• Jourdan Lewis- He will be 29 next year. He had a pretty good year last year but is he worth getting a raise on a cap strapped team?
• Jayron Kearse- Kearse has been good. Great? No. He’s probably going to get some higher offers that make it hard to keep him. I could see him following wherever Dan Quinn lands.
• Dante Fowler- he’s a good pass rusher but is he worth keeping at the same price or more? No.
• Neville Gallimore- finished his rookie deal and is just a rotational guy with only occasional flashes. JAG.
• Noah Igbinoghene - guy we got in the KJoseph trade last fall. Played very little when it mattered. His rookie deal is up. So…bye.
• Sean McKeon- Now the 4th or 5th TE who is mainly a blocker. We have a better TE room than 2 years ago.

There are a few other FAs that may be gone. Some of the guys above may also sign here again. Many of the replacements for the guys above would likely come from the draft or cheaper FAs. Will be a very interesting offseason to say the least.

All possibilities to be turned over, but I suspect we'll keep a few of these guys.

-I think we'll retain either Fowler or Armstrong. More likely Fowler, because Armstrong has produced 16 sacks and 17 tackles for a loss the last 2 years as a part time player and is also in his prime years. Likely someone will be interested in paying him more.

-Biadsz is interesting, I think he's an above average pass blocker and below average run blocker. Someone is going to pay him as a top 10 center which is likely 9+ million. I don't think that is worth it.

-Gilmore is probably a 1 to 2 year deal, 7 million per season. Not opposed to bringing him back as the Cowboys are going to have to address the 3rd corner at some point. Lewis is probably a 2 to 3 year deal at 4-5 million. There's a decent chance Gilmore or Lewis are brought back but not both. Probably depends on if they see Bland in the slot or outside and where they have a need. I think Gilmore carries a little.

-I actually wouldn't be shocked to see Tyron back on a very team friendly deal. I think he likes being here and is probably his preference if he doesn't decide to retire. Whether thats the best thing for the organization is the question and regardless they would need to invest in some insurance at LT for now and the future.

-Pollard hasn't put himself in position to land a big pay day. Instead he's likely chasing a short term deal of 4 to 6 million a year. I rather just head to the draft and find someone on day 2. However, I don't think his contract will be viewed that cost prohibitive so its not out of the realm of possibility he's back in Dallas with needs on the oline, WR, LB, and cb. Or the Cowboys may just consider another free agent RB.

I agree with the rest of your comments.

 

[Captain43Crash]

Thanks for sharing. I acknowledge I'm bitter and have a bad attitude, but honestly don't care if every single one if these guys walks.

They can all walk, except Pollard. I like Pollard for about 5-6 million per year. He produced pretty well when he had blogging. Armstrong will want to much and he only makes a play every other game. Did he make a play vs GB? Fowler makes as many extremely stupid plays( lined up offsides twice in the same game. How does that happen! ) as good plays.

 

[JustChip]

Except Dorrance played in 15 games his rookie year. Fehoko couldn’t get off the inactive list.

True. But that was more out of necessity than his readiness. His competition was Taco Charlton. This team was much better staffed.

 

[Cowboys5217]

There are multiple players on our roster, many who will be FAs next year who likely will not be on the roster next year either because of cap restrictions or just needing to move on. I’m intentionally leaving Dak off this list because that is a much more complex situation that requires a separate category. I’m not against moving on from Dak, but don’t want to discuss it here.

Some of these names will be obvious, some may not. Most of the guys I’m about to list will be FAs. Here are my predictions for players we will (should) be considered for an exit:

• Tyler Biadaz- finished his rookie deal and will command a hefty raise. But IMO, he’s just ok. He’s a good starter but he’s not worth a big raise on a team full of cap challenges.
• Michael Gallup- has never been the same since his knee injury 2 years ago. His contract is structured for an out this year. He gone.
• Tony Pollard- after one year on the cap at $10 mil a season, he’s going into 2024 with no contract. He will not be worth the contract he will garner next year. He’s gone.
• Leighton Vander Esch- LVE - His neck injury is a quality of life thing. He needs to retire.
• Dorance Armstrong- he’s a good but not great player who benefits greatly being a part time pass rusher opposite Parsons. He will get offers for more than we should pay.
• Stephon Gilmore- he is a FA. Honestly at 34, he is probably mostly done. We have Diggs on a big deal and Bland. Time to move on.
• Tyron Smith- He is signed through 2024 I think. But honestly, even though he had an ok year in terms of not missing as many games as he had been missing before. That’s a low bar. He will be an old 34 next year. He’s not owed that much. I would move on. He’s no longer dependable. I love Tyron. He was truly a great player; a great player who‘s time is up.
• Jourdan Lewis- He will be 29 next year. He had a pretty good year last year but is he worth getting a raise on a cap strapped team?
• Jayron Kearse- Kearse has been good. Great? No. He’s probably going to get some higher offers that make it hard to keep him. I could see him following wherever Dan Quinn lands.
• Dante Fowler- he’s a good pass rusher but is he worth keeping at the same price or more? No.
• Neville Gallimore- finished his rookie deal and is just a rotational guy with only occasional flashes. JAG.
• Noah Igbinoghene - guy we got in the KJoseph trade last fall. Played very little when it mattered. His rookie deal is up. So…bye.
• Sean McKeon- Now the 4th or 5th TE who is mainly a blocker. We have a better TE room than 2 years ago.

There are a few other FAs that may be gone. Some of the guys above may also sign here again. Many of the replacements for the guys above would likely come from the draft or cheaper FAs. Will be a very interesting offseason to say the least.

None of these guys are a deal breaker. Would just need to get some more young linemen to replace Biadasz and Smith.

 

[CCBoy]

I hate baseball

Try a coed church softball league then...

 

[big dog cowboy]

It‘s hard to have success acquiring a good young QB if you almost never draft one.

And that's the problem. I've since forever they should draft one every 3-4 years. It's the most important position on a team. And the Cowboys repeatedly neglect it.

 

[LBPick]

There are multiple players on our roster, many who will be FAs next year who likely will not be on the roster next year either because of cap restrictions or just needing to move on. I’m intentionally leaving Dak off this list because that is a much more complex situation that requires a separate category. I’m not against moving on from Dak, but don’t want to discuss it here.

Some of these names will be obvious, some may not. Most of the guys I’m about to list will be FAs. Here are my predictions for players we will (should) be considered for an exit:

• Tyler Biadaz- finished his rookie deal and will command a hefty raise. But IMO, he’s just ok. He’s a good starter but he’s not worth a big raise on a team full of cap challenges.
• Michael Gallup- has never been the same since his knee injury 2 years ago. His contract is structured for an out this year. He gone.
• Tony Pollard- after one year on the cap at $10 mil a season, he’s going into 2024 with no contract. He will not be worth the contract he will garner next year. He’s gone.
• Leighton Vander Esch- LVE - His neck injury is a quality of life thing. He needs to retire.
• Dorance Armstrong- he’s a good but not great player who benefits greatly being a part time pass rusher opposite Parsons. He will get offers for more than we should pay.
• Stephon Gilmore- he is a FA. Honestly at 34, he is probably mostly done. We have Diggs on a big deal and Bland. Time to move on.
• Tyron Smith- He is signed through 2024 I think. But honestly, even though he had an ok year in terms of not missing as many games as he had been missing before. That’s a low bar. He will be an old 34 next year. He’s not owed that much. I would move on. He’s no longer dependable. I love Tyron. He was truly a great player; a great player who‘s time is up.
• Jourdan Lewis- He will be 29 next year. He had a pretty good year last year but is he worth getting a raise on a cap strapped team?
• Jayron Kearse- Kearse has been good. Great? No. He’s probably going to get some higher offers that make it hard to keep him. I could see him following wherever Dan Quinn lands.
• Dante Fowler- he’s a good pass rusher but is he worth keeping at the same price or more? No.
• Neville Gallimore- finished his rookie deal and is just a rotational guy with only occasional flashes. JAG.
• Noah Igbinoghene - guy we got in the KJoseph trade last fall. Played very little when it mattered. His rookie deal is up. So…bye.
• Sean McKeon- Now the 4th or 5th TE who is mainly a blocker. We have a better TE room than 2 years ago.

There are a few other FAs that may be gone. Some of the guys above may also sign here again. Many of the replacements for the guys above would likely come from the draft or cheaper FAs. Will be a very interesting offseason to say the least.

You could easily have named this thread “They Had To Win It THIS Year And Here’s Why”

 

[LBPick]

Also - Overshown helps at LB, no ?

 

[5Stars]

There are multiple players on our roster, many who will be FAs next year who likely will not be on the roster next year either because of cap restrictions or just needing to move on. I’m intentionally leaving Dak off this list because that is a much more complex situation that requires a separate category. I’m not against moving on from Dak, but don’t want to discuss it here.

Some of these names will be obvious, some may not. Most of the guys I’m about to list will be FAs. Here are my predictions for players we will (should) be considered for an exit:

• Tyler Biadaz- finished his rookie deal and will command a hefty raise. But IMO, he’s just ok. He’s a good starter but he’s not worth a big raise on a team full of cap challenges.
• Michael Gallup- has never been the same since his knee injury 2 years ago. His contract is structured for an out this year. He gone.
• Tony Pollard- after one year on the cap at $10 mil a season, he’s going into 2024 with no contract. He will not be worth the contract he will garner next year. He’s gone.
• Leighton Vander Esch- LVE - His neck injury is a quality of life thing. He needs to retire.
• Dorance Armstrong- he’s a good but not great player who benefits greatly being a part time pass rusher opposite Parsons. He will get offers for more than we should pay.
• Stephon Gilmore- he is a FA. Honestly at 34, he is probably mostly done. We have Diggs on a big deal and Bland. Time to move on.
• Tyron Smith- He is signed through 2024 I think. But honestly, even though he had an ok year in terms of not missing as many games as he had been missing before. That’s a low bar. He will be an old 34 next year. He’s not owed that much. I would move on. He’s no longer dependable. I love Tyron. He was truly a great player; a great player who‘s time is up.
• Jourdan Lewis- He will be 29 next year. He had a pretty good year last year but is he worth getting a raise on a cap strapped team?
• Jayron Kearse- Kearse has been good. Great? No. He’s probably going to get some higher offers that make it hard to keep him. I could see him following wherever Dan Quinn lands.
• Dante Fowler- he’s a good pass rusher but is he worth keeping at the same price or more? No.
• Neville Gallimore- finished his rookie deal and is just a rotational guy with only occasional flashes. JAG.
• Noah Igbinoghene - guy we got in the KJoseph trade last fall. Played very little when it mattered. His rookie deal is up. So…bye.
• Sean McKeon- Now the 4th or 5th TE who is mainly a blocker. We have a better TE room than 2 years ago.

There are a few other FAs that may be gone. Some of the guys above may also sign here again. Many of the replacements for the guys above would likely come from the draft or cheaper FAs. Will be a very interesting offseason to say the least.

Oh...your list must mean you want Deuce still on the team. lol. I hope he stays...