CFZ Cowboys players who probably won't be back next year

[SlammedZero]

Agreed. It‘s hard to have success acquiring a good young QB if you almost never draft one. The Cowboys have only drafted 5 QBs since 2000…5. Here they are and when they were drafted:

• 2001- Quincy Carter round 2
• 2007- Isiah Stanback- round 4 (never took a snap as a QB because he was converted to WR)
• 2009- Stephen McGee, round 4 (part of the worst draft in team history)
• 2016- Dak Prescott, round 4
• 2020- Ben DiNucci- round 7

That‘s it. In 24 drafts, the Cowboys have selected 5 QBs, none in round one.Contrast that with the niners who over the same period have drafted 12 QBs.

As I’ve said many times, you can’t catch a fish if you don’t throw a hook in the water.

That list is so pathetic. Unbelievable that this FO actively ignores the most important position in football.

 

[GimmeTheBall!]

There are multiple players on our roster, many who will be FAs next year who likely will not be on the roster next year either because of cap restrictions or just needing to move on. I’m intentionally leaving Dak off this list because that is a much more complex situation that requires a separate category. I’m not against moving on from Dak, but don’t want to discuss it here.

Some of these names will be obvious, some may not. Most of the guys I’m about to list will be FAs. Here are my predictions for players we will (should) be considered for an exit:

• Tyler Biadaz- finished his rookie deal and will command a hefty raise. But IMO, he’s just ok. He’s a good starter but he’s not worth a big raise on a team full of cap challenges.
• Michael Gallup- has never been the same since his knee injury 2 years ago. His contract is structured for an out this year. He gone.
• Tony Pollard- after one year on the cap at $10 mil a season, he’s going into 2024 with no contract. He will not be worth the contract he will garner next year. He’s gone.
• Leighton Vander Esch- LVE - His neck injury is a quality of life thing. He needs to retire.
• Dorance Armstrong- he’s a good but not great player who benefits greatly being a part time pass rusher opposite Parsons. He will get offers for more than we should pay.
• Stephon Gilmore- he is a FA. Honestly at 34, he is probably mostly done. We have Diggs on a big deal and Bland. Time to move on.
• Tyron Smith- He is signed through 2024 I think. But honestly, even though he had an ok year in terms of not missing as many games as he had been missing before. That’s a low bar. He will be an old 34 next year. He’s not owed that much. I would move on. He’s no longer dependable. I love Tyron. He was truly a great player; a great player who‘s time is up.
• Jourdan Lewis- He will be 29 next year. He had a pretty good year last year but is he worth getting a raise on a cap strapped team?
• Jayron Kearse- Kearse has been good. Great? No. He’s probably going to get some higher offers that make it hard to keep him. I could see him following wherever Dan Quinn lands.
• Dante Fowler- he’s a good pass rusher but is he worth keeping at the same price or more? No.
• Neville Gallimore- finished his rookie deal and is just a rotational guy with only occasional flashes. JAG.
• Noah Igbinoghene - guy we got in the KJoseph trade last fall. Played very little when it mattered. His rookie deal is up. So…bye.
• Sean McKeon- Now the 4th or 5th TE who is mainly a blocker. We have a better TE room than 2 years ago.

There are a few other FAs that may be gone. Some of the guys above may also sign here again. Many of the replacements for the guys above would likely come from the draft or cheaper FAs. Will be a very interesting offseason to say the least.

No, me dear leader.
Gallup was a man on a mission against the Packers.
He looked really, really good.
We should keep the lad because if CeeDee's pout continues, at least we have a credible Gallup and Deek's security blanket in Fergie.
After the Packers game Is came away intrigued and impressed.

 

[GimmeTheBall!]

The only guy I feel would make sense is Armstrong.

'Splain, Lucy. You want Dorance or not?

 

[Mark]

One thing that I hear and read about Dallas is that "Well, drafting 24th they can't get a top qb prospect"

Oh really? Where was Brock Purdy drafted? Dead last that year. Where was Aaron Rodgers drafted? 24th, same as Dallas this year. How about Brees? 32nd. Russell Wilson? 75th. All of the last 3 won a SB.

Sure, it's easier to get a top qb drafting very high, our own Troy Aikman was a no. 1 pick.

But let's not use our draft position as an excuse, SB winning quarterbacks CAN be had without drafting in the top 5..

Tom Brady: 199th

 

[Bobhaze]

Also - Overshown helps at LB, no ?

He may. I like Overshown but he’s a small-ish LB who has great quickness but I don’t thino he’s a consistently great run stuffer. I’m glad to add him to the LB room but he doesn’t solve any of our bigger problems on D IMO.

 

[Cmac]

When we should be spending a first on QB. We probably won't though with the other needs and not having a 4th having traded for Lance. Given that, I think our first and second should be spent on two of the first two there on your list. LB, OL, or DL, but I think OL and DL take slightly more priority. RB can be had later. We're losing in the trenches against the better teams. Get us some mean bigger guys.

A QB, if in our current draft order may be a JJ McCarthy, possibly a Pennix due to injury histtory......but why? A Tom Brady (late pick) clone ain't walking in the door. Extremely risk to waste the pick if you end up with another "Ben Da Nooch".

 

[Bobhaze]

That list is so pathetic. Unbelievable that this FO actively ignores the most important position in football.

I believe it happens because when they stumble on a QB that can play like they did with Romo and with Dak, they just act like “we’re set” and never give much thought to it again. It’s GM malpractice IMO.

Look at the great QBs drafted when at least a decent starter was already in place:

• 2000- NE drafted Tom Brady in rd 6 when they were already happy with Drew Bledsoe, a pretty decent starter. They ended up drafting the greatest QB in history because they didn’t think they were “set“at QB.
• 2005- Packers had HOF QB Brett Favre as their QB (and he started 3 more years in GB!) but the pack chose to draft Aaron Rodgers with the 24th pick in rd 1.
• 2012 Sea drafted Russell Wilson in round 6 even though they had just spent big FA money on Matt Flynn. Ended up being a great move for sea.
• 2017- KC drafted Patrick Mahomes with the 10th pick after aggressively moving up to get him. They had a good starter in Alex Smith who had led them to the playoffs. I honestly believe the Cowboys would have kept Smith.
• 2022- SF drafted Brock Purdy in rd 7 as a long shot despite having Trey Lance they had drafted in rd 1 in 2021. Cowboys would never make that move.

This is just a short list. Again, you can’t find a diamond in the rough if you don’t mine for one.

 

[Bobhaze]

A QB, if in our current draft order may be a JJ McCarthy, possibly a Pennix due to injury histtory......but why? A Tom Brady (late pick) clone ain't walking in the door. Extremely risk to waste the pick if you end up with another "Ben Da Nooch".

I’m not a big JJ McCarthy fan. I think he’s a good college QB who will be another Matt Jones. Obviously I could be wrong, lol. I like Bo Nix as a late 1st or early 2nd rounder. It will never happen here but I wouldn’t mind that.

 

[RonWashington]

If Leupke doesn’t return I’ll be bedside myself .

 

[Bobhaze]

No, me dear leader.
Gallup was a man on a mission against the Packers.
He looked really, really good.
We should keep the lad because if CeeDee's pout continues, at least we have a credible Gallup and Deek's security blanket in Fergie.
After the Packers game Is came away intrigued and impressed.

You may be right sir but Gallup’s $13 mil salary is really hard to keep with Lamb‘s big payday coming.

 

[RonWashington]

If Leupke doesn’t return I’ll be bedside myself .

The critical moment we use Leupke Keith Jackson screams FUMBLE !!!!!

 

[GimmeTheBall!]

You may be right sir but Gallup’s $13 mil salary is really hard to keep with Lamb‘s big payday coming.

...but if Lamb continues his pout? Or, gosh forbids, If Lamb goes down or requests a trade?
Gallup can step in and do well.

 

[Chuck 54]

Based on the guys I think we need to let go and based on our obvious weaknesses, this off-season will require major talent upgrades at the following position groups:

• LB (biggest defensive need)
• OL (getting old and need a C or T)
• DL (need some run stuffers)
• RB (A huge need going into 2023 that was overlooked)
• (Maybe) Safety
• QB - I would draft a QB regardless of whether we keep Dak or not. Based on past history I can almost 100% guarantee you this front office won’t draft anyone until round 6 or 7.

I like this list. There are lots of quality and big centers in this year’s draft. But I liked the nastiness I saw from Hoffman in his one game at guard. I can’t help wondering if he can step in a center.

I feel C and RB are the keys on offense, though I wish we’d take a flyer on a speedy receiver and try to develop a contributor.
On defense, DT and LBs for sure, but this is where I think Dallas needs to dip into free agency and pay some money. You must have at least 1 veteran LB who plays the run well.

 

[Bobhaze]

I wonder if Big Hank returns... remember it took a long time for him to decide to return to football last offseason, he may just retire

No disrespect intended here. But even though Hankins has been good to have for this team, how sad is it that we Cowboys fans feel that an older, on the downhill side of his career guy is our best run stopping DT?

Hankins is good when you compare him to the other not so good options we have. But when you look across the league and compare him to other teams’ best run stuffers, he’s just above average.

 

[GimmeTheBall!]

He may. I like Overshown but he’s a small-ish LB who has great quickness but I don’t thino he’s a consistently great run stuffer. I’m glad to add him to the LB room but he doesn’t solve any of our bigger problems on D IMO.

Overshown will be a soft player. He's a Longhorn at UT, home of the soft.

 

[Bobhaze]

Overshown will be a soft player. He's a Longhorn at UT, home of the soft.

Are they the “Dallas Cowboys of college football”? Well…no they can’t be because Texas made it the final four teams in this year’s college playoff!

 

[Old'Boyfan]

That list is so pathetic. Unbelievable that this FO actively ignores the most important position in football.

It's the perfect example of WLOG syndrome.
(we like our guys)

 

[GimmeTheBall!]

Are they the “Dallas Cowboys of college football”? Well…no they can’t be because Texas made it the final four teams in this year’s college playoff!

They are close. Texas and UT-Austin, the most cash-endowed teams in the universe with little to show since Troy and Vince.

 

[MikeT22]

Agreed. It‘s hard to have success acquiring a good young QB if you almost never draft one. The Cowboys have only drafted 5 QBs since 2000…5. Here they are and when they were drafted:

• 2001- Quincy Carter round 2
• 2007- Isiah Stanback- round 4 (never took a snap as a QB because he was converted to WR)
• 2009- Stephen McGee, round 4 (part of the worst draft in team history)
• 2016- Dak Prescott, round 4
• 2020- Ben DiNucci- round 7

That‘s it. In 24 drafts, the Cowboys have selected 5 QBs, none in round one.Contrast that with the niners who over the same period have drafted 12 QBs.

As I’ve said many times, you can’t catch a fish if you don’t throw a hook in the water.

And Quincy is the only QB we've drafted in rounds 1-3 in 30 years. Simply unreal.

 

[Bobhaze]

And Quincy is the only QB we've drafted in rounds 1-3 in 30 years. Simply unreal.

Yeah it’s just more evidence of front office dysfunction. You should ALWAYS be looking for better players at every position. Honestly I don’t think I’ve ever seen a sports FO that gets more satisfied with their own work - they are more in love with their players than with getting better. It’s mystifying.