Cowboys sign LB Keith Rivers

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What did you think of Mincey last yr?

rolando isnt needed because they have Hitchens. And Durant will be resigned shortly.

Hitchens matched mcClains production. Not to mention mcClain cant even be trusted to stay drug free.

Mincey was a lard arse liability the first half of the year. Then he lost weight and skyrocketed up to JAG. JAG on a below average defense.
 

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Mincey was a lard arse liability the first half of the year. Then he lost weight and skyrocketed up to JAG. JAG on a below average defense.

Comical.

Mincey had 8 sacks while getting paid 1.5M. That's one of if not the best bargain in free agency.
 

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Comical.

Mincey had 8 sacks while getting paid 1.5M. That's one of if not the best bargain in free agency.

Yeah, just like Selvie the year before. How'd he turn out? Comical is thinking that if we don't dramatically improve the defensive line this year that we even sniff the playoffs.

Everyone is glossing over the fact that we got fortunate to play against a lot of back up QBs this year. Next year looks to be a completely different road. The starting point for this defense is looking at what we did against GB. Our defense let a one legged Rodgers do whatever he wanted.

Keep pinning your hopes on The Mincey. If he even sniffs the amount of playing time he got last year this defense will get torched - again.
 

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Yeah, just like Selvie the year before. How'd he turn out? Comical is thinking that if we don't dramatically improve the defensive line this year that we even sniff the playoffs.

Everyone is glossing over the fact that we got fortunate to play against a lot of back up QBs this year. Next year looks to be a completely different road. The starting point for this defense is looking at what we did against GB. Our defense let a one legged Rodgers do whatever he wanted.

Keep pinning your hopes on The Mincey. If he even sniffs the amount of playing time he got last year this defense will get torched - again.

It's highly likely that they would have missed the playoff without Mincey last year. This despite the fact you said he could play and should be cut.

Maybe a year after being completely wrong about a player is not a good time to be making more brash statements and/or predictions.
 

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Comical.

Mincey had 8 sacks while getting paid 1.5M. That's one of if not the best bargain in free agency.

I agree and with another year on his deal at 1.7 mill I expect him to be in the lineup, but does not change the fact more is needed.
 

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Mincey was a lard arse liability the first half of the year. Then he lost weight and skyrocketed up to JAG. JAG on a below average defense.

He's a try hard type but I agree we need an upgrade in talent. The guys who support Mincey are the same ones that thought it was fine to trot out mediocre at best offensive linemen before the Cowboys got serious.

If you want him as a back up, fine...but the guy should not be a penciled in starter for next year. You want to do better than that.
 

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Mincey was a lard arse liability the first half of the year. Then he lost weight and skyrocketed up to JAG. JAG on a below average defense.

In the final 5 games of the yr(3reg 2playoffs) Dallas had averages of 3 sacks and 3.2 turnovers per game. What was the change? They went man defense more instead of zone. Funny how things change when you start attacking in the secondary instead of reacting huh?

People need to learn the game of football.
 

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Yeah, just like Selvie the year before. How'd he turn out? Comical is thinking that if we don't dramatically improve the defensive line this year that we even sniff the playoffs.

Everyone is glossing over the fact that we got fortunate to play against a lot of back up QBs this year. Next year looks to be a completely different road. The starting point for this defense is looking at what we did against GB. Our defense let a one legged Rodgers do whatever he wanted.

Keep pinning your hopes on The Mincey. If he even sniffs the amount of playing time he got last year this defense will get torched - again.

Agreed
If we go for bargain basement again this year then it won't be pretty
 

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It's highly likely that they would have missed the playoff without Mincey last year. This despite the fact you said he could play and should be cut.

Maybe a year after being completely wrong about a player is not a good time to be making more brash statements and/or predictions.

Its highly likely that if Lawrence hadn't gotten hurt that Mincey wouldn't even be a topic of conversation.
 

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Why goodbye Bruce Carter? What did I miss?

I agree. I don't know if Bruce Carter will be back or not but this signing has nothing to do with Carter returning or not. Out of the 3 LB who are FA (Carter, Durant and McClain) I highly doubt if all 3 return and if I had to take a guess Carter could be the odd man out. Only reason I say that is I think we can get a better deal with Durant but we will see. Would love to keep them all
 

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In the final 5 games of the yr(3reg 2playoffs) Dallas had averages of 3 sacks and 3.2 turnovers per game. What was the change? They went man defense more instead of zone. Funny how things change when you start attacking in the secondary instead of reacting huh?

People need to learn the game of football.

Playing against the likes of Sanchez, Matt Hasselbeck, RGIII to end the regular season helped.

They played well against Detroit, then a one legged Rodgers.

But yes, to your point, getting something out of B Carr helped. And I still think we need a FS.
 

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Yeah, I didn't expect the panic when I posted this.

Do people really believe the front office is going "well, we got Keith Rivers now...we're good."?

I was exaggerating my panic because LatinMind was praising the move and saying that he'd love a starting lineup that included Rivers. I don't mind the signing because I think he's better than Cam Lawrence and I wouldn't mind him starting a game if someone got injured. But we're in big trouble if we get rid of Carter and McClain and roll into next season with Lee, Hitchens, Durant and Rivers as our top 4 LBers.
 

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I was exaggerating my panic because LatinMind was praising the move and saying that he'd love a starting lineup that included Rivers. I don't mind the signing because I think he's better than Cam Lawrence and I wouldn't mind him starting a game if someone got injured. But we're in big trouble if we get rid of Carter and McClain and roll into next season with Lee, Hitchens, Durant and Rivers as our top 4 LBers.

I just don't mind the look at him on a cheap one year deal. I have no expectations whatsoever.
 

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I just don't mind the look at him on a cheap one year deal. I have no expectations whatsoever.

Me neither. He's decent depth. I'm just not quick on getting rid of Carter and McClain like everyone else is. Lee is a stud but is unreliable, Hitchens had an impressive rookie season but is far from a superstar, Durant is a solid vet who can backup any LBer spot but he isn't a game changer, and Rivers is a 5th/6th LBer at best. Carter and McClain are our best LBers (when Lee is injured) and they're both young.
 

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Me neither. He's decent depth. I'm just not quick on getting rid of Carter and McClain like everyone else is. Lee is a stud but is unreliable, Hitchens had an impressive rookie season but is far from a superstar, Durant is a solid vet who can backup any LBer spot but he isn't a game changer, and Rivers is a 5th/6th LBer at best. Carter and McClain are our best LBers (when Lee is injured) and they're both young.

The Cowboys have a very unsettled LB situation. Even without taking FA in to the equation and who will be brought back.

Who can really be counted on within that group? I don't think anybody. But on the flip side, guys could stay healthy and solidify those positions nicely. It's very unsettled and I wouldn't be against the Cowboys adding a couple of LBs with some pedigree this offseason.
 

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The Cowboys have a very unsettled LB situation. Even without taking FA in to the equation and who will be brought back.

Who can really be counted on within that group? I don't think anybody. But on the flip side, guys could stay healthy and solidify those positions nicely. It's very unsettled and I wouldn't be against the Cowboys adding a couple of LBs with some pedigree this offseason.

I agree it's unsettled. It's frustrating because from a talent standpoint, we're pretty loaded at LBer and we lack talent considerably on the D-line and secondary. The frustrating thing is that our undertalented D-line and secondary play above expectations, stay healthy, and are level headed. The complete opposite is true about our LBers.

In a perfect world, we roll with Lee, Carter and McClain and have the best LBer trio in the NFL. They all have the talent. Problem is, Lee is made of glass, McClain is a headcase, and Carter is hot and cold. Then we have two guys in Hitchens and Durant who aren't as talented as those three but play above expectations. They're humble and can play all three spots. Durant is a bit older and has injury issues though. I see Hitchens' ceiling being a Durant-ish player. I'd take Hitch over Durant because of age and health though.
 

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Playing against the likes of Sanchez, Matt Hasselbeck, RGIII to end the regular season helped.

They played well against Detroit, then a one legged Rodgers.

But yes, to your point, getting something out of B Carr helped. And I still think we need a FS.

You can't include Hasselbeck. The great Luck started and was pulled in the 3rd because he sucked and the game was out of control and they didn't want him to get hurt.
 
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