Cowboys talking extension with tony romo

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Starting to wish it was a bannable offense to complain about 8-8 seasons that end with the division on the line in the final game. Some of these bandwagon riders need to be banished to Jacksonville or Cleveland or somewhere so they can know what a true bad season is. To be so apathetic, you don't even CARE to complain because your team is mathematically out of it in Week 9. Yet, every low IQ bandwagon rider on here is so quick to complain about the 8-8 curse... laughable. But wait.... you have HIGH standards because your great grand pappy saw Roger Dodger in the Cotton Bowl. Get out of here with that crap... you're a big fat guy on the couch who only cares about the team when they win. You don't deserve anything.
 

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silver;5027143 said:
We don't have a choice do we? Either extend him and sign Spencer to a long term deal or we can't hardly field a team. This is not if it's a good idea or not, we need to extend Romo. There's no other alternative. Well the other alternative is to trade him and tank the season.

This is not a sign at all costs deal. It's a situation in which we have to be able to accept the fact that IF we can't come to a deal, we must be ready to trade these players.

That's the deal.
 

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At this point, a 10 yr old playing Madden is probably better. The kid probably learns from his mistakes.
Do we really need to know what you are doing in your spare time?
 

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Super_Kazuya;5027147 said:
Starting to wish it was a bannable offense to complain about 8-8 seasons that end with the division on the line in the final game. Some of these bandwagon riders need to be banished to Jacksonville or Cleveland or somewhere so they can know what a true bad season is. To be so apathetic, you don't even CARE to complain because your team is mathematically out of it in Week 9. Yet, every low IQ bandwagon rider on here is so quick to complain about the 8-8 curse... laughable. But wait.... you have HIGH standards because your great grand pappy saw Roger Dodger in the Cotton Bowl. Get out of here with that crap... you're a big fat guy on the couch who only cares about the team when they win. You don't deserve anything.

Hey! Do you have a camera at my house?
 

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ABQCOWBOY;5027465 said:
This is not a sign at all costs deal. It's a situation in which we have to be able to accept the fact that IF we can't come to a deal, we must be ready to trade these players.

That's the deal.

Ed Werder said yesterday on Galloway that the reason no deal has been done at this point is that there is a huge difference between what JJ wants to pay Tony and what Tom Condon wants in a new deal. Tony is starting from the premise that if he stands pat and takes the 11m due on his contract for this year and if the Boys franshise him next year at 22m or 23m he can guarantee himself 33m or 34m in two years.

If the Boys trade him, the new team would still need to get him to sign a new contract. I suspect Condon knows that the minimum they would accept is somthing similar to what Brady did with almost all of the contract guaranteed.

I think it's likely that Tony plays out the contract or is traded during the draft. IMVHO
 

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Same agent for Romo, Ryan, and Stafford..all in the same boat
So Condon's interests are interlocking.
 

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LittleD;5027477 said:
Ed Werder said yesterday on Galloway that the reason no deal has been done at this point is that there is a huge difference between what JJ wants to pay Tony and what Tom Condon wants in a new deal. Tony is starting from the premise that if he stands pat and takes the 11m due on his contract for this year and if the Boys franshise him next year at 22m or 23m he can guarantee himself 33m or 34m in two years.

If the Boys trade him, the new team would still need to get him to sign a new contract. I suspect Condon knows that the minimum they would accept is somthing similar to what Brady did with almost all of the contract guaranteed.

I think it's likely that Tony plays out the contract or is traded during the draft. IMVHO

That is a faulty premise on Tom Condon's part. We are not franchising 34 year old Tony with an exclusive tag. The Cowboys would franchise Tony with a non-exclusive tag and pay him around 15 million in 2014 or franchise and trade because if Tony won't sign a deal before the draft the Cowboys are going to take a quarterback in the top half of this draft.

There is not huge volatility in the franchise numbers because it is based off of the highest paid player over the past 5 years-not a shorter time period that sees spikes year to year. That was a huge win for owners in the CBA.

Tony would get a max of $11.5 + $15 + $17.9. That is an average of $14.8 over 3 years and gets Tony to age 36 where his market will not be in the Peyton Manning, Tom Brady strata.

We don't need Romo to do a deal because of actual cash paid. We need to do it for cap relief and Tony would have a $3mm lower number next year at a comparably to Brees, Manning, Brady and Rothlesburger a comfortable number.
 

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All these speculations, lol

So far, I've not heard anything from Cowboys or Romo's party concerning how contract negotiation is going, absolutely nothing and yet, some of you are taking media's take/opinion and run with it, smh.
 

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DFWJC;5027478 said:
Same agent for Romo, Ryan, and Stafford..all in the same boat
So Condon's interests are interlocking.

Ryan and Stafford are young. Lots of teams would give 2 firsts for them. Tony has less leverage. But those teams aren't in cap hell.
 

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cowboysooner;5027487 said:
That is a faulty premise on Tom Condon's part. We are not franchising 34 year old Tony with an exclusive tag. The Cowboys would franchise Tony with a non-exclusive tag and pay him around 15 million in 2014 or franchise and trade because if Tony won't sign a deal before the draft the Cowboys are going to take a quarterback in the top half of this draft.

There is not huge volatility in the franchise numbers because it is based off of the highest paid player over the past 5 years-not a shorter time period that sees spikes year to year. That was a huge win for owners in the CBA.

Tony would get a max of $11.5 + $15 + $17.9. That is an average of $14.8 over 3 years and gets Tony to age 36 where his market will not be in the Peyton Manning, Tom Brady strata.

We don't need Romo to do a deal because of actual cash paid. We need to do it for cap relief and Tony would have a $3mm lower number next year at a comparably to Brees, Manning, Brady and Rothlesburger a comfortable number.

Tom Condon is not going to let Tony sign for any less that max market value. I actually think the Cowboys have few options this year but the let Tony play out his contract. If Condon's other QB's strike better deals, Tony will benefit next year for sure if either franchise tag is applied. You might be surprised what some team might do if they feel they are only a QB away from a SB. Stay tuned...things are about to get a lot more interesting.
 

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cowboysooner;5027492 said:
Ryan and Stafford are young. Lots of teams would give 2 firsts for them. Tony has less leverage. But those teams aren't in cap hell.
I'm speaking from his agent's perspective.

He sees at least some link between all of them and how it will effect each contract. Not they thay are the same, but that they will impact each other.
 

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DFWJC;5027502 said:
I'm speaking from his agent's perspective.

He sees at least some link between all of them and how it will effect each contract. Not they thay are the same, but that they will impact each other.

I agree with you but Tony because of age and his team's cap situation is in a different spot than Ryan and Stafford. Both those guys have more leverage than Tony because neither of them will be non-exclusively franchised and Stafford is 2 years out not one.

I'm sure that Tony wants a $17+aav deal. I had a long post on here a few weeks ago how he would get it, but I did not think we would lever up like this and retain Spencer and Tony.

I will say the most impressive thing about Jerry Jones is that he does not let his money get mad. They figured out a way to work around the lack of cap space. When they did and especially if they get a deal done with Spencer in a cratering defensive end market Tony is going to lose a ton of leverage. Between that and cutting Free the Cowboys could function for another year and take considerable leverage away from Romo.

I don't think you should run a team in a contract war with your qb. It is too distracting, but at a certain point that is up to Romo.
 

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cowboysooner;5027511 said:
I agree with you but Tony because of age and his team's cap situation is in a different spot than Ryan and Stafford. Both those guys have more leverage than Tony because neither of them will be non-exclusively franchised and Stafford is 2 years out not one.

I'm sure that Tony wants a $17+aav deal. I had a long post on here a few weeks ago how he would get it, but I did not think we would lever up like this and retain Spencer and Tony.

I will say the most impressive thing about Jerry Jones is that he does not let his money get mad. They figured out a way to work around the lack of cap space. When they did and especially if they get a deal done with Spencer in a cratering defensive end market Tony is going to lose a ton of leverage. Between that and cutting Free the Cowboys could function for another year and take considerable leverage away from Romo.

I don't think you should run a team in a contract war with your qb. It is too distracting, but at a certain point that is up to Romo.

Tom Condon is well known in his dealings. If the boys try to low ball Tony, he will insure that Tony makes lots of "business decisions" this year with that stinky "turnstyle" offensive line. I see lots of running for the sidelines in our future....
 

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Tom Condon is well known in his dealings. If the boys try to low ball Tony, he will insure that Tony makes lots of "business decisions" this year with that stinky "turnstyle" offensive line. I see lots of running for the sidelines in our future....

He's a competitor, that won't be happening. It's all instinctual once he's on the field.
 

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Here's the problem when you talk about Romo's age, you need to account for the number of years that's he's played versus age, the reason is, is because a 33 year old is not on decline physically. The reason other QB's decline around this age is because of how long they've been beaten up. If you want to compare him to somebody then compare him to Kurt Warner. If he can play behind a decent line that can keep him upright, I see no reason that he doesn't play until 38 or so. He's the best option for right now, don't forget that every mistake we made on offense this year we made one on defense. A score is a two sided affair. Teams in the past have won with a great D and a sub par offense and vice versa, but having an average O and D will cost you games. I think we go offensive line in the 1st. Remember even with the mistakes that Romo has had, we have never had a problem putting up points, but we have never in recent history been able to stop the opposing offense when it mattered. I'm not saying Romo is the best QB in the league but he is good enough to win a SB, don't put in a situation that he doesn't excel in and you don't have to worry about him throwing an INT.
 

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Nation;5027518 said:
He's a competitor, that won't be happening. It's all instinctual once he's on the field.

Tom Condon and Tony's wife are now calling the shots because Tony is now a husband and father. It's now all about how much bank they can make to make sure she can shop till she drops now and in the future. Tony will do as told or sleep on the couch....Gotta Luv it!!!!
 

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LittleD;5027515 said:
Tom Condon is well known in his dealings. If the boys try to low ball Tony, he will insure that Tony makes lots of "business decisions" this year with that stinky "turnstyle" offensive line. I see lots of running for the sidelines in our future....
fwiw, I do wish he would have taken the sack in that Washington game.:eek::

As for the on-field business decisions--can't see Romo doing that. Does not seem to be in his DNA.
 

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Beast_from_East;5027070 said:
Signing Romo is a mistake?


Aikman says this team wins 3 games max without Romo.


... and this team wins 8 games WITH Romo.

Either way, no playoffs.
 

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LittleD;5027523 said:
Tom Condon and Tony's wife are now calling the shots because Tony is now a husband and father. It's now all about how much bank they can make to make sure she can shop till she drops now and in the future. Tony will do as told or sleep on the couch....Gotta Luv it!!!!

I don't know about all of that. Did Tom, Tony, or Tony's wife tell you this? I find it hard to believe that Tony doesn't make his own decisons for his career, yeah he may consult with his agent and wife but it's ultimately his decision. All you are doing is making assumptions about what is important to Tony and his family (and his wife's spending apparently) and you know what assumptions like to do to people. You are going on a very far limb, even for you.
 
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