Cowboys wanted Demarco back before he went to Titans

[Bleu Star]

They tried last season, too. I don't think it matters much.

RB hasn't been our problem anyway.

Lol. You guys.. I tell ya. You could make money on a comedy tour. I'd buy tickets.

RB was a major problem last year. We never got rolling because we put all of our hopes & dreams into a panty raiding mental midget. Let's keep sweeping that all under the rug because DMC happened to fill in and have a decent year. Again, decent does not equate to the Pro Bowl caliber we had in Demarco and some could argue that we would have come rolling out of the box at a more dominant pace had we kept Demarco behind our line. So.... We all know that's water under the bridge... Moving forward, get Lamar Miller in here and draft our future QB at #4.

DMC is nothing more than what Felix was. A decent change of pace back out of Arkansas.. Short yardage situations eat him for breakfast.

 

[Idgit]

Lol. You guys.. I tell ya. You could make money on a comedy tour. I'd buy tickets.

RB was a major problem last year. We never got rolling because we put all of our hopes & dreams into a panty raiding mental midget. Let's keep sweeping that all under the rug because DMC happened to fill in and have a decent year. Again, decent does not equate to the Pro Bowl caliber we had in Demarco and some could argue that we would have come rolling out of the box at a more dominant pace had we kept Demarco behind our line. So.... We all know that's water under the bridge... Moving forward, get Lamar Miller in here and draft our future QB at #4.

DMC is nothing more than what Felix was. A decent change of pace back out of Arkansas.. Short yardage situations eat him for breakfast.

It really, really wasn't. I understand that you want it to be, but RBs just aren't that important in this league right now. That's why they don't get drafted very high. It's why they don't get big deals in FA. It's why, if they do, they get traded and restructure after just a single season.

I wasn't a fan of DMC, ever. I'm still not. I'd be perfectly happy to see him replaced with whatever middling FA we think might be better. But throwing money at Demarco Murray was a horrible idea last season. It would be a horrible idea this season.

I'm with you on Lamar Miller, at a price. I'd go as high as $5.5M for a RB, and I'd guarantee a lot of that for the first 3 years of the deal if I had to. Or I'd spend a mid-level pick that the position is worth and roll with that next season. I don't really care.

Forte, too, holds a bit of interest for me. Mostly because he can catch and pass protect, though. Because that stuff helps teams win games.

 

[Bleu Star]

It really, really wasn't. I understand that you want it to be, but RBs just aren't that important in this league right now. That's why they don't get drafted very high. It's why they don't get big deals in FA. It's why, if they do, they get traded and restructure after just a single season.

I wasn't a fan of DMC, ever. I'm still not. I'd be perfectly happy to see him replaced with whatever middling FA we think might be better. But throwing money at Demarco Murray was a horrible idea last season. It would be a horrible idea this season.

I'm with you on Lamar Miller, at a price. I'd go as high as $5.5M for a RB, and I'd guarantee a lot of that for the first 3 years of the deal if I had to. Or I'd spend a mid-level pick that the position is worth and roll with that next season. I don't really care.

Forte, too, holds a bit of interest for me. Mostly because he can catch and pass protect, though. Because that stuff helps teams win games.

Yet here we are talking about drafting Zeke at #4.... Hmmmm. Interesting....

 

[Bleu Star]

I'm with you on Lamar Miller, at a price. I'd go as high as $5.5M for a RB, and I'd guarantee a lot of that for the first 3 years of the deal if I had to. Or I'd spend a mid-level pick that the position is worth and roll with that next season. I don't really care.

Forte, too, holds a bit of interest for me. Mostly because he can catch and pass protect, though. Because that stuff helps teams win games.

Forte or Miller and I am a happy camper. The Demarco mistake talk will cease. Until then, we screwed up and have yet to fix that screw up at RB.

 

[TwentyOne]

At least they tried for a full week to right their mistake. I commend them for at least trying....


Before Murray Went To Titans, Cowboys + Eagles Talked DeMarco Trade

MARK LANE
6:43 AM

Before Murray Went To The Titans in a Swap, Our Mike Fisher reports that the Cowboys and Eagles Talked DeMarco Trade.

Naturally, across the NFL landscape, the "DeMarco Murray news'' was all about the faded All-Pro running back being traded to Tennessee, part of Philly's post-Chip Kelly fumigation.

But inside of Valley Ranch, the "DeMarco Murray news'' also involved the Cowboys, as reported by our own Mike Fisher on 105.3 The Fan on Monday afternoon.

According to Fish, the trade-minded Eagles have been engaging in talks for at least a week with Dallas regarding a Murray boomerang back to the Cowboys. It was never going to make much sense, given the financial obstacles. Indeed, it's still not entirely clear on how it makes sense for Tennessee, though depending on how they've escaped the $9 million still owed the player on his existing deal, we shall see.

The running back's former team in Dallas never quite found that way, or bent as far as the Titans did. But Fish announced Monday on both the "Ben & Skin'' show and his own "Fishnato'' show that, "Sources inside Valley Ranch tell me that before Murray was dealt to the Titans, Philly and Dallas discussed a swap that would bring the former All-Pro back to the Cowboys.''

We can certainly imagine powerful people inside the locker room supporting the idea. DeMarco was/is close friends with Romo, Witten and Dez, among others.


Follow the link for the rest of the story.

I am so happy it did not happen.

I am aware of that this game is only about the money. But i would have never had someone like Murray who brought this whole money thing to another level.
This guy has no character at all. And it would have hit me hard if we signed him to a new contract. Not because of Murray but because of the people who lead our franchise and what is says of them.

There has to be a point where character and moral wins over everything else. If not then - to me - this whole RKoG thing is in question.

Which - if i think deeper - essentially already is.... because as this article states... we were thinking about bringing him back.

What a shame!

Selling yourself and what you believe in life for monetary success is not the way i like to see our franchise is heading for. But then: This franchsie is led by a man who is only about the money. What should i've expected ?

 

[Sydla]

Lol. You guys.. I tell ya. You could make money on a comedy tour. I'd buy tickets.

RB was a major problem last year. We never got rolling because we put all of our hopes & dreams into a panty raiding mental midget. Let's keep sweeping that all under the rug because DMC happened to fill in and have a decent year. Again, decent does not equate to the Pro Bowl caliber we had in Demarco and some could argue that we would have come rolling out of the box at a more dominant pace had we kept Demarco behind our line. So.... We all know that's water under the bridge... Moving forward, get Lamar Miller in here and draft our future QB at #4.

DMC is nothing more than what Felix was. A decent change of pace back out of Arkansas.. Short yardage situations eat him for breakfast.

Except, I think someone did an analysis a few months ago comparing Murray and McFadden in short yardage situations and it came out pretty close. And McFadden did that with no Romo.

That's not to say McFadden is a stud or anything but I think he's gets short changed here a lot and people say things to put him down that might not be necessarily true.

 

[Bleu Star]

I am so happy it did not happen.

I am aware of that this game is only about the money. But i would have never had someone like Murray who brought this whole money thing to another level.
This guy has no character at all. And it would hit me hard if we sidned him to a new contract. Not because of Murray but because of the people who lead our franchise and what is says of them.

There has to be a point where character and moral wins over everything else. If not then - to me - this whole RKoG thing would be in question.

Which essentially is.... because as this article states... we were thinking about bringing him back.

What a shame!

Lol.. No character. A guy fights for his livelihood in a league where youre lucky to see FA chances like that once (if ever) in your career and he has no character? Wow. Lmao. Ok buddy.

 

[Idgit]

Yet here we are talking about drafting Zeke at #4.... Hmmmm. Interesting....

Who's 'we'? You got a mouse in your pocket? The only thing I've said about Zeke is that I'd peel the skin off my face and go ballistic if we wasted the #4 pick on a RB, of all positions.

 

[The Quest for Six]

yeah I'm sure Philly called Jerry and said, do you want Murray back...Jerry said yes we'll take him off your hands.....Philly said give us your second round pick, Jerry was about to say yes until Steven grabs phones and says no thanks......hangs up phone!

 

[Sydla]

Yet here we are talking about drafting Zeke at #4.... Hmmmm. Interesting....

Who is "we"?

 

[Bleu Star]

Except, I think someone did an analysis a few months ago comparing Murray and McFadden in short yardage situations and it came out pretty close. And McFadden did that with no Romo.

That's not to say McFadden is a stud or anything but I think he's gets short changed here a lot and people say things to put him down that might not be necessarily true.

McFadden is weak. Short yardage situations eat him for breakfast. No doubt. I've seen it.

 

[superonyx]

Yet here we are talking about drafting Zeke at #4.... Hmmmm. Interesting....

I'd trade the Rams our #4 this year for Todd Gurley in a heartbeat...

I guess RB's are not worth anything anymore.....yet I'm willing to bet the Rams would laugh at us if we proposed that trade.

 

[Sydla]

McFadden is weak. Short yardage situations eat him for breakfast. No doubt. I've seen it.

Oh, well since you've "seen it"........................... LOL.

I wonder if someone can dig up that thread where the poster compared Murray and McFadden in short yardage situations.

 

[jobberone]

Not really. His skills yes but not the money. Can't have one without the other.

 

[Sydla]

I'd trade the Rams our #4 this year for Todd Gurley in a heartbeat...

I guess RB's are not worth anything anymore.....yet I'm willing to bet the Rams would laugh at us if we proposed that trade.

Actually, they might take it if they thought Goff or Wentz was their hope. When they took Gurley, they thought Nick Foles was their future and solidified the QB spot. Now that they know Foles sucks and they have no QB, I bet they'd think long and hard about trading us Gurley for #4 if it gave them a shot at their future QB.

 

[TwentyOne]

Forte or Miller and I am a happy camper. The Demarco mistake talk will cease. Until then, we screwed up and have yet to fix that screw up at RB.

I would be happy to have a good RB. But Miller will command money we werent willing to pay for Murray - and rightfully so. Thats not because one of them is bad. Its just because you dont need to pay that position that high.

I still think the right way to have success is draft someone in the 3rd round. Pay him maybe 1 mill / year and dont look back.
We can spend the money and draft pick in a much more needed position AND it will be a much higher upgrade.

 

[jobberone]

Who's 'we'? You got a mouse in your pocket? The only thing I've said about Zeke is that I'd peel the skin off my face and go ballistic if we wasted the #4 pick on a RB, of all positions.

Got the sentiment but you don't have any skin. Looks more like a red rug to me. But I got it....no RB at 4.

Do you use carpet shampoo on that?

 

[percyhoward]

McFadden is weak. Short yardage situations eat him for breakfast.

Hate to argue with that avatar, but the actual plays say otherwise.

from 5-yard line or closer
% of runs resulting in TD
2014 (all 16 games) 9 of 17 (53%)
2015 (games 1-6) 5 of 7 (72%)
2015 (games 7-16) 0 of 3 (0%)

For the year, we scored on 5 of our 10 runs from the 5-yard line or closer (50%). That's not much different than the year before with Murray. And there's no reason (that I can think of) to believe that Murray would have made us more efficient inside the 5 this year without Romo than we were last year with Romo. In fact, common sense says it would have been harder for Murray this year, with Weeden and Cassel combining for a total of one TD pass inside the 10-yard line in their nine starts. Over his career, from inside the 10 -- with or without Murray -- Romo averages 12 TD over nine games, and they totaled 1. Defensive coordinators would have been foolish to respect Weeden or Cassel at all, much less respect them as much as they would Romo in those situations.

Conversion %
3rd or 4th down, 1-2 yards to go
Murray (2014) 19 of 26 -- 73%
McFadden (2015) 13 of 17 -- 77%

All short-yardage and goal line runs
Murray (2014) 25 of 32 -- 78%
McFadden (2015) 15 of 21 -- 71%

 

[lostar2009]

I wonder how 2015 would have ended if we had Murray. One of JJ biggest mistakes.

 

[Sydla]

I wonder how 2015 would have ended if we had Murray. One of JJ biggest mistakes.

4-12 or maybe 5-11.

This team is built around having Romo there. His improvisation skills covers up a lot of the coaching staff gaffes. Sure, him having a better running game helps but in the end, Romo is what makes Garrett's offense work and once you remove Romo, everything else just falls apart.