Cowboys wanted Demarco back before he went to Titans

[Bleu Star]

Murray got to rest and recover from his heavy load the Cowboys put on him. I expect TEN to get a really good season out of him next season... if they use him right.

Yup

 

[waving monkey]

Lol. You guys.. I tell ya. You could make money on a comedy tour. I'd buy tickets.

RB was a major problem last year. We never got rolling because we put all of our hopes & dreams into a panty raiding mental midget. Let's keep sweeping that all under the rug because DMC happened to fill in and have a decent year. Again, decent does not equate to the Pro Bowl caliber we had in Demarco and some could argue that we would have come rolling out of the box at a more dominant pace had we kept Demarco behind our line. So.... We all know that's water under the bridge... Moving forward, get Lamar Miller in here and draft our future QB at #4.

DMC is nothing more than what Felix was. A decent change of pace back out of Arkansas.. Short yardage situations eat him for breakfast.

Murray is a good back.
We did roll into the season short handed at RB
We missed our chance not drafting a capable back in the draft
thats what pure drafting will do to you.
I'm glad we didnt spend money on murray like the Eagles did.
Glad we arent now but we have to address the RB problem

 

[Bleu Star]

Murray is a good back.
We did roll into the season short handed at RB
We missed our chance not drafting a capable back in the draft
thats what pure drafting will do to you.
I'm glad we didnt spend money on murray like the Eagles did.
Glad we arent now but we have to address the RB problem

I pretty much agree with 100% of what you wrote. My only caveat was that we didn't negotiate at all with Murray. That has always been my issue and it is what it is. We never made the guy that Romo and Witten liked feel truly wanted. He begrudgingly went for his payday as a result and got it. More power to him.

Let's get Miller (or Forte as mentioned earlier by idgit) in here, shore up RB, so we can focus on our other pressing needs in the draft. Eliminate a pressing need and get a stud RB in here.

 

[percyhoward]

Right...

But don't let the stat guys see this. In their world everything is black and white.

Let's go into the grey, then.

What's going to make Murray more successful in goal line with Weeden and Cassel than he was in short-yardage with Romo?

 

[waving monkey]

No shampoo. I leave the yarn in its natural state and provide my own essential oils and proteins.

But the point remains: I'd yank my yarn out by the roots if we went RB at 4. I don't dislike Zeke, either. I think he's worth a late first, honestly. But it's a small universe of impact players up this high in the draft. Players that don't make it to free agency. You have to take them when you're up there, or else you're hoping to develop one on a long shot somewhere, and I don't want to be in that business at QB or DE.

I've seen several boards that list Zeek as high as 5th over all.
If Im viewing our problems last year [other then Romo] correctly
a good RB would done wonders for some of those problems.
I think Zeek gives us a big solution.
I want more wiggle room on the pure drafting theory

 

[Bleu Star]

Let's go into the grey, then.

What's going to make Murray more successful in goal line with Weeden and Cassel than he was in short-yardage with Romo?

With Murray in Dallas, Romo doesn't get hurt. Now feel free to provide a stat that proves otherwise. I'll wait.

 

[Idgit]

I've seen several boards that list Zeek as high as 5th over all.
If Im viewing our problems last year [other then Romo] correctly
a good RB would done wonders for some of those problems.
I think Zeek gives us a big solution.
I want more wiggle room on the pure drafting theory

I suppose it depends what boards you're looking at. I haven't seen them, but then I also haven't been paying all that close attention, I'll admit.

I know there are people who want us to have a better RB. I just want to see the defense get better. I think there are 5-6 options out there who can improve the running game at a reasonable value without spending our single most valuable offseason resource on it, and that's fine by me.

 

[Bleu Star]

Let's go into the grey, then.

What's going to make Murray more successful in goal line with Weeden and Cassel than he was in short-yardage with Romo?

For the record, I love your stat breakdowns. They provide some great perspective (but never the whole story).

 

[jobberone]

Not that I disagree but we didn't get in those situations enough this part season. 10 compared to 17 is huge. Granted we didn't have Romo but I'm not sure you can compare.

I want to upgrade RB in the draft because I don't trust McFadden or Dunbar to stay healthy. Our OL proved they can block, now let's get a beast of a stud back there to hand him the ball and go to work. ....doesn't matter what round, I like Dixon, but I don't like the idea of only McFadden back there

That's a legitimate concern. But that is true of any RB in the league.

I just wouldn't spend too much for a perishable asset.

 

[muck4doo]

Kelly really is a genius. I never knew a coach could badly damage two teams at the same time.

 

[Bleu Star]

Kelly really is a genius. I never knew a coach could badly damage two teams at the same time.

Yep. & working on a third next year. RIP San Fran.

 

[hornitosmonster]

Yep. & working on a third next year. RIP San Fran.

And San Fran thought they had an exodus last year...just wait until Chip makes his moves

 

[Sydla]

8-8 minimum.. because Tony would have never gotten hurt..........

Speaking of comedy..............

 

[Sydla]

Doesn't matter how many times you post this. They either can't understand it or don't want to. In fact some are just ******* trolling.

Some people just don't want to admit they are wrong.

 

[Sydla]

I hear you bro..............I don't need any stat guys to tell me the running game is fine, I watched every dam game last year and I saw us getting stuffed many times on short yardage.

And their argument that everything is fine is based on an illogical premise. If the Cowboys thought that the RB position was fine with McFadden, why would they spend an entire week trying to work out a trade to bring Murray back? You don't waste an entire week trying to work a trade out for a player if you don't think that player would significantly improve your team.

So I ask the question again, if Cowboys think Murray would have significantly upgraded the team, then doesn't that by definition imply that they think the RB is currently inadequate in some way?

If the Cowboys thought Murray would significantly upgrade the team, he'd be back in a Cowboys jersey because Tennessee apparently has given up little to acquire him and even got a restructured deal from Murray.

 

[jobberone]

Some people just don't want to admit they are wrong.

I can understand that but I suspect at least a few are trolling. It's difficult for me to believe some are that stupid....in fact I know they aren't.

 

[Bleu Star]

Speaking of comedy..............

Be sure to drop some dollars in the hat on your way out.

 

[Irvin88_4life]

That's a legitimate concern. But that is true of any RB in the league.

I just wouldn't spend too much for a perishable asset.

Well injury can happen to anybody true but a player with that history concerns me. Until a player proves other wise I feel is not a concern

 

[ryanbabs]

The 2015 season marked the 20th time since 1970 that a Cowboy RB ranked among the Top 10 in rushing yards and yards per carry (min. 10 carries per game). The other 19 times this has happened, Dallas has ranked 11th or better in offensive passer rating.

1970 Thomas 8th yd, 1st ypc (pass 5th)
1974 Hill 8th yd, 8th ypc (pass 9th)
1975 Newhouse 9th yd, 6th ypc (pass 7th)
1977 Dorsett 9th yd, 2nd ypc (pass 2nd)
1978 Dorsett 3rd yd, 6th ypc (pass 1st)
1980 Dorsett 6th yd, 19th ypc (pass 7th)
1981 Dorsett 2nd yd, 4th ypc (pass 5th)
1982 Dorsett 2nd yd, 8th ypc (pass 6th)
1983 Dorsett 6th yd, 6th ypc (pass 5th)
1987 Walker 6th yd, 6th ypc (pass 11th)
1991 Smith 1st yd, 4th ypc (pass 7th)
1992 Smith 1st yd, 3rd ypc (pass 3rd)
1993 Smith 1st yd, 1st ypc (pass 2nd)
1994 Smith 3rd yd, 7th ypc (pass 4th)
1995 Smith 1st yd, 2nd ypc (pass 5th)
1998 Smith 5th yd, 10th ypc (pass 8th)
1999 Smith 4th yd, 7th ypc (pass 11th)
2013 Murray 10th yd, 1st ypc (pass 7th)
2014 Murray 1st yd, 6th ypc (pass 1st)
2015 McFadden 4th yd, 3rd ypc (pass 30th)

Appreciate you posting this. It shows a lot and looks like we've got something good for years to come!

 

[Nightman]

They are reporting that Murray revised his deal a little. He was due 4/31-33m with 9-12 guaranteed.

Now he is due 4/25.5-33m with 9-12.5m guaranteed.

If they cut him after one year he will get 9m, just like with PHI, but he can make a little more with incentives.