Cowherd’s Top 10 QBs heading into 2023

[buybuydandavis]

Dak is not a top 10 QB.

A lot of lists are gonna be like this heading into the season.

He wasn't last year.
I think he has been in some other years.

 

[jterrell]

List was to get attention which he has done.
100 other people will follow suit with silly stuff and get attention too.

1 and 2 are spot on.

In fairness to all who make up lists it gets murky because those 2 separated themselves and others are jam packed.
So break them up into 3 main categories:

Young guns:
Hurts ascended this year and prolly deserves to top the list of the non-Burrow youngins.
BUT like the guy below him 1 year isn't a great barometer. Eagles had great talent on O and great health with a soft schedule. Hard to imagine a better situation for any QB.
Josh Allen based on last year gets a slight nod over Lawrence and Herbert for me.
Allen is essentially Dak. Tough guys with enough overall talent to move the ball but overly aggressive enough to rack up turnovers.
Lawrence slightly higher to me than Herbert based on improvement. Light seemed to come on for Lawrence mid last year.
Herbert does everything well but win games.

Young vets:
These guys are still on a second deal or getting one any day now.
Dak has the most passing production and wins of this group.
Lamar is going here instead of young guns as he's almost certainly changing teams.
Give him that Dolphins team back home in Miami and he will flat cook. But he needs to find a balanced offense as his legs won't stay young forever.
Jared Goff had a resurgence in Detroit but still shows limitations physically. Lack both arm strength and mobility of guys above him here.

The Proven Vets:
Aaron Rodgers is like a super model wife that has bankrupted you and threatens to leave you every day.
His talent is special but he drove that team over a cliff with selfishness and and is perpetually unhappy every day but pay day.
Come pay day he is first in line with his championship ring and MVP trophies in tow. knocking others out of the way.
Matt Stafford is a Herbert that finally put it all together. But his body has been through it and he was never super-efficient.


Put it all together?
I'd probably go:

1. Mahomes

2, Burrow

3. Rodgers --He is probably going to find himself a new team and with change of scenery produce insane numbers again. But good grief is he unlikable.

4. Josh Allen --Raw talent and determination land him here as he is a Dak clone but younger and healthier.

5. Dak --Rock solid player in all areas but not special in any one aspect. Injuries are a concern but points he puts on board per start over last 2 seasons top this list. A lot of people will cry about this ranking but he led a middle of the league OL and worse than middle WR corps to be the top scoring team in football for his starts.

6. Hurts --Most tenuous slot on board as he was better than 6th last season but never top 10 before last season. Can he produce when he doesn't have every advantage? Mentally and with maturity he is elite. But his arm strength is well below average. Eagles should still be good around him in 2023 but probably not as good with all those free agents.

7. Lawrence --Has to continue to develop but the raw tools were 5-star for a reason. With his size, having great footwork and a quick release are musts.

8. Stafford --Has the legacy production and enough physical talent left for one more run.

9. Herbert --Big, strong-armed QB is a throw back. But offense looks like an 80s version too. Might be better off in a play-action based system where he throws less but the throws mean more.

10. Goff --Great 1 read QB and has solid accuracy on short to intermediate throws. Lack of mobility and deep throw weigh him down.

Wildcard --Lamar has the potential to be top 5 on this list for 2024 or off it altogether. It will depend on where he ends up as QB. I'd probably slot him 6th team unknown but that is a lot of guess work. If back in Baltimore likely more like 8th and if in Miami with those weapons could be around 4 and making a Hurts-like Super Bowl run.

 

[CTcowboy203]

Coming off this year - you can’t have dak top 10. That’s to be expected. These lists are fluid tho and cowherd will change this thing about 15 times by next year this time.

 

[atlantacowboy]

Hurts #6????..........he lost me
I do agree, Dak will have to fight his way back into the top 10

Hurts finished 2nd in the MVP voting.

 

[Hawkeye0202]

Hurts finished 2nd in the MVP voting.

Exactly.......he should easily be top 5, closer to 2nd or 3rd. That's why OP lost me

 

[glimmerman]

Colin reminds me of skip. If he cuts the ints down and goes on a 5 game streak then he is a top 7 QB. The first loss he is off the list.

 

[CATCH17]

Yards and TDs, in this instance, aren't that impressive. They don't run the ball....at ALL.

SO anything they do is through the air. They have woefully underperformed for having the "4th" best qb in the league.

The way that people like Cowherd change their criteria for an "elite" qb is comical. Lawrence and Herbert have never done anything. Yet they are 3rd and 4th because they have long hair and big arms lol

If Herbert’s talents don’t absolutely jump off the screen when watching them play then you probably need to just give up on evaluating QBs.

 

[Diehardblues]

Wilson still….?

Sorry I meant Bills QB Josh Allen. It’s hell getting old. Lol

 

[MountaineerCowboy]

List was to get attention which he has done.
100 other people will follow suit with silly stuff and get attention too.

1 and 2 are spot on.

In fairness to all who make up lists it gets murky because those 2 separated themselves and others are jam packed.
So break them up into 3 main categories:

Young guns:
Hurts ascended this year and prolly deserves to top the list of the non-Burrow youngins.
BUT like the guy below him 1 year isn't a great barometer. Eagles had great talent on O and great health with a soft schedule. Hard to imagine a better situation for any QB.
Josh Allen based on last year gets a slight nod over Lawrence and Herbert for me.
Allen is essentially Dak. Tough guys with enough overall talent to move the ball but overly aggressive enough to rack up turnovers.
Lawrence slightly higher to me than Herbert based on improvement. Light seemed to come on for Lawrence mid last year.
Herbert does everything well but win games.

Young vets:
These guys are still on a second deal or getting one any day now.
Dak has the most passing production and wins of this group.
Lamar is going here instead of young guns as he's almost certainly changing teams.
Give him that Dolphins team back home in Miami and he will flat cook. But he needs to find a balanced offense as his legs won't stay young forever.
Jared Goff had a resurgence in Detroit but still shows limitations physically. Lack both arm strength and mobility of guys above him here.

The Proven Vets:
Aaron Rodgers is like a super model wife that has bankrupted you and threatens to leave you every day.
His talent is special but he drove that team over a cliff with selfishness and and is perpetually unhappy every day but pay day.
Come pay day he is first in line with his championship ring and MVP trophies in tow. knocking others out of the way.
Matt Stafford is a Herbert that finally put it all together. But his body has been through it and he was never super-efficient.


Put it all together?
I'd probably go:

1. Mahomes

2, Burrow

3. Rodgers --He is probably going to find himself a new team and with change of scenery produce insane numbers again. But good grief is he unlikable.

4. Josh Allen --Raw talent and determination land him here as he is a Dak clone but younger and healthier.

5. Dak --Rock solid player in all areas but not special in any one aspect. Injuries are a concern but points he puts on board per start over last 2 seasons top this list. A lot of people will cry about this ranking but he led a middle of the league OL and worse than middle WR corps to be the top scoring team in football for his starts.

6. Hurts --Most tenuous slot on board as he was better than 6th last season but never top 10 before last season. Can he produce when he doesn't have every advantage? Mentally and with maturity he is elite. But his arm strength is well below average. Eagles should still be good around him in 2023 but probably not as good with all those free agents.

7. Lawrence --Has to continue to develop but the raw tools were 5-star for a reason. With his size, having great footwork and a quick release are musts.

8. Stafford --Has the legacy production and enough physical talent left for one more run.

9. Herbert --Big, strong-armed QB is a throw back. But offense looks like an 80s version too. Might be better off in a play-action based system where he throws less but the throws mean more.

10. Goff --Great 1 read QB and has solid accuracy on short to intermediate throws. Lack of mobility and deep throw weigh him down.

Wildcard --Lamar has the potential to be top 5 on this list for 2024 or off it altogether. It will depend on where he ends up as QB. I'd probably slot him 6th team unknown but that is a lot of guess work. If back in Baltimore likely more like 8th and if in Miami with those weapons could be around 4 and making a Hurts-like Super Bowl run.

lol this poster put a QB that's team went 4-1 WITHOUT him and still managed to lead the NFL in INTs as a top 5 QB.

Go on, tell us more about that middle of the pack O-line and a worse than middle of the pack WR corp that went 4-1 without what you consider a top 5 QB.

 

[khiladi]

Herbert has the most passing yards and TD passes in his first 3 seasons in NFL history.

He's not the problem with the Chargers.

They never watched him play. They just talking about him because “people” started sweating him after watching him play last year . A lot of them didn’t even know he was on the radar which is why well into last season they had lists with Dak as top 5 and Herbert nowhere to be found and now they’ve gone full in to criticizing him only because “Dak haters” love his game, while these same Dak jock riders are completely oblivious to the fact he’s broken Marino’s passing records in his first three years that has stood for over three decades, including in this pass happy league, whole having one of the worst OC in the league who was fired on the plane ride home and multiple injuries in his team, at both OL and WR. Dak Stan’s we’re in a panic on year 2 when Tyron Smith had to sit out a couple games and that was all the excuse they apparently needed to continue to make Dak a “legend”.

 

[Strykerscm]

This is a perfect thread that shows why the Dak heads are truly stupid unintelligent people.

On the most fundamental level and something you’re taught in middle school as a qb. Protect the ball. Don’t drop it and don’t throw to the other team.

Radio makes 50mm a year and has a fundamental inability to not turn the ball over. You could be a Brady/Mahomes/Montana clone and if you lead the league in turnovers, you’re not a top 10 qb let alone elite.

Why you guys cannot physically understand that turning the ball over is the worst possible thing you can do in football, is beyond me. It’s almost like some of “you” have a loyalty to Dak that isn’t football related and project that out in this site.

 

[JW82]

Cowturd is a clown. Dak will have 2 good games next year and he’ll be top 3 on cowturds list. Not sure why this guy has the following he has.

 

[khiladi]

Watson has a full training camp to practice, among with Callahan’s blocking and RG, so expect him to move up. Their RG should lend itself to plenty of explosive plays between him and Amari.

 

[khiladi]

This is a perfect thread that shows why the Dak heads are truly stupid unintelligent people.

On the most fundamental level and something you’re taught in middle school as a qb. Protect the ball. Don’t drop it and don’t throw to the other team.

Radio makes 50mm a year and has a fundamental inability to not turn the ball over. You could be a Brady/Mahomes/Montana clone and if you lead the league in turnovers, you’re not a top 10 qb let alone elite.

Why you guys cannot physically understand that turning the ball over is the worst possible thing you can do in football, is beyond me. It’s almost like some of “you” have a loyalty to Dak that isn’t football related and project that out in this site.

Any self-proclaimed Dallas fan knows Jimmy Johnson stressed TOs as the difference between wins and losses, particularly the playoffs. If you committed TOs, you were out.

 

[atlantacowboy]

Exactly.......he should easily be top 5, closer to 2nd or 3rd. That's why OP lost me

Oh, I thought you were still a non-beleiever. hehe

 

[MountaineerCowboy]

Cowturd is a clown. Dak will have 2 good games next year and he’ll be top 3 on cowturds list. Not sure why this guy has the following he has.

Come on, Dak having 2 good games?

Get real.

 

[atlantacowboy]

Cowturd is a clown. Dak will have 2 good games next year and he’ll be top 3 on cowturds list. Not sure why this guy has the following he has.

Well, the most likely explanation is that so many are wrong and you are correct.

 

[PAPPYDOG]

This is a perfect thread that shows why the Dak heads are truly stupid unintelligent people.

On the most fundamental level and something you’re taught in middle school as a qb. Protect the ball. Don’t drop it and don’t throw to the other team.

Radio makes 50mm a year and has a fundamental inability to not turn the ball over. You could be a Brady/Mahomes/Montana clone and if you lead the league in turnovers, you’re not a top 10 qb let alone elite.

Why you guys cannot physically understand that turning the ball over is the worst possible thing you can do in football, is beyond me. It’s almost like some of “you” have a loyalty to Dak that isn’t football related and project that out in this site.

You are correct it is not football or team Cowboy related and sadly it shows big time.
Just the fact of how many times they post the word "HATE" pretty much confirms it.
No healthy debate when agenda-driven minds are present.

 

[Redline360]

Damn just realized D.Jones had a better rating and QBR then Dak.

Giants OL was trash tier a couple years ago and have improved but still...and his WR group is meh at best

 

[Ken]

If Herbert’s talents don’t absolutely jump off the screen when watching them play then you probably need to just give up on evaluating QBs.

There has been a lot of talented qbs who weren't elite qbs.