Cowherd: Cowboys a borderline playoff team

[StarBoyz83]

I ate some fine tasty crow last season, ACF. I had us at 6-10 when Romo went down. Some damn tasty crow.

I won't bet against this squad again. All these 9-7, 8-8 predictions are laughable, as are the posters posting them, more or less, my brudda.

Same I thought 6-10 at best

 

[aria]

I think we beat NE in the Super Bowl 24-17.

 

[CaptainCreed]

Never use Cowboy odds as evidence for an argument. Vegas knows Dallas is America's team, gets bet on heavy by the public, odds are always inflated in our favor, generally better to be on the other side of our odds.

Agree with everyone else, Cowboys sell (clickbait) and it is easy to bet on a 13-3 team regressing. The league is designed for parity and regression unless your division is cakewalk every year like the AFC East for forever or old AFC South when Peyton's Colts didn't have competition for years (now all 4 of those teams are mediocre, Titans seem most promising, Houston can't get a QB).

 

[Screw The Hall]

These days almost everyone is a borderline playoff team. The difference between good and bad is which side of that border you reside.

 

[LatinMind]

He could be right, he could be completely off.

I think it all depends on how well Dak comes back and plays, and if we have someone step up as another Receiving threat opposite Dez.

No that is not Williams

Did dak all of the sudden lost Elliot his Ol te and wrs? What's with all this if stuff?

Step up opposite dez? Did witten or Beasley go somewhere? There's only so many targets to go around because they do this thing called run the ball. And do it the best in the league.

 

[LocimusPrime]

https://sportsday.***BANNED-URL***/...er-cowboys-will-fall-jason-garrett-good-coach

 

[ElGatoGrande]

Like him or hate him - he's pretty much at the top of the mountain in sports talk radio, even his rebroadcasts and podcasts are in the millions and he was just added by Sirius.

Fox is making a lot of money off him. It's not show friends - it's show business.

Nationally broadcast sports radio,,, now there's a snoozer! I can tolerate KTCK since there's plenty of Cowboys talk but even that is strained because they mix in other local sports teams. I can't imagine listening to a show that covers everything from coast to coast.

 

[ActualCowboysFan]

yep.

I was crazy to think we would struggle with a rookie qb and a bad defense. I don't even remember what I thought about them before the injury, I think 10-6 or 9-7. Last year was the first time since 1994 they made the playoffs when playing the nfc north/central.

and I have never listened to cowherd in my life. Its odd I have to say how you remember I thought we would struggle till romo got back but not what I thought with romo.

Nah what's crazy is the doubling down and your myopic view of the Giants.

NY:
lost a better player than anyone who left Dallas.
Signed an aging player at a position that doesn't age well. A player who has a history of locker room troubles. And has bashed his new teammates. Who will demand the ball. Who is coming off his worst season. And has literally already scheduled his retirement. (This signing was classified as great)


Signed a bust coming from one of the worst position groups in the league. Who's team said they'd replace him in the draft. In a draft that was historically poor for OL. And is currently a backup. (This signing was classified as great)

Signed a backup TE. Who has 51 career catches. And had nine last season. (This signing was classified as great)

Lost two of their better run defenders with two starters in their front seven.

Have two gaping roster holes on the OL and at linebacker that they failed completely to address.

And had the scoring margin of a 7 win team last year.

 

[CaptainCreed]

Never use Cowboy odds as evidence for an argument. Vegas knows Dallas is America's team, gets bet on heavy by the public, odds are always inflated in our favor, generally better to be on the other side of our odds.

Agree with everyone else, Cowboys sell (clickbait) and it is easy to bet on a 13-3 team regressing. The league is designed for parity and regression unless your division is cakewalk every year like the AFC East for forever or old AFC South when Peyton's Colts didn't have competition for years (now all 4 of those teams are mediocre, Titans seem most promising, Houston can't get a QB).

For what it's worth

 

[theebs]

Nah what's crazy is the doubling down and your myopic view of the Giants.

NY:
lost a better player than anyone who left Dallas.
Signed an aging player at a position that doesn't age well. A player who has a history of locker room troubles. And has bashed his new teammates. Who will demand the ball. Who is coming off his worst season. And has literally already scheduled his retirement. (This signing was classified as great)


Signed a bust coming from one of the worst position groups in the league. Who's team said they'd replace him in the draft. In a draft that was historically poor for OL. And is currently a backup. (This signing was classified as great)

Signed a backup TE. Who has 51 career catches. And had nine last season. (This signing was classified as great)

Lost two of their better run defenders with two starters in their front seven.

Have two gaping roster holes on the OL and at linebacker that they failed completely to address.

And had the scoring margin of a 7 win team last year.

aww looks like yet again somebody doesnt like me. That is all I get here. Just like when you guys told me atlanta wasnt any good.

anyway. You don't seem to be comprehending how they are building their roster and maybe not how we are either.

The giants kept the better of their two DT's. They have jay bromley and the rookie from alabama to make up for the guy you are calling better than anyone that left Dallas which I do not agree with. I think Church and Carr were as good if not better.

On Brandan Marshall yes he has attitude problems and could be explosive if they are losing. On the flip side he has signed their to be a piece and not the focal point. Also they have a deep talented speedy group at wr. Marshall is going to give them an element they have not had in a while which is a big physical guy.

On Ellison the fact that you are talking about his catches already tells me you do not understand his role. They have engram and ellison/adams to play the H back? Y tight end role blocking on the line of scrimmage. This is something they were severely missing. Go back and watch a giants game from the last 3 years there Tight ends could not block anyone and it affected how they approached running the ball. Ellison and the possible development of adams takes care of that.

Their linebackers are just guys. Their defensive line has 3 studs and allows the just guys to get to the football.

on the offensive line. If flowers doesn't improve then they will have an issue. With that said their starting five are not bad and pugh and rich burg are very good. I am not sure because I have not seen anyone there say where fluker can go but dismissing him because san diego did makes no sense. he is very big and very talented. if he gets on the line they are very big and very powerful, whether thats at guard or tackle nobody knows yet.

It's basically very similar to Dallas Signing Leonard Davis in 07 free agency. He was given a big contract and the people in Arizona couldn't wait to get rid of him because he was a poor left tackle. I bet you didn't discount the davis signing when Arizona said they had to replace him and especially once late in camp he settled in at guard and really looked powerful especially against the colts in the preseason game. Looked like he was going to kill somebody he was so powerful.

as far as scoring margin goes, who cares? They could not run the ball last year because of issues on the line especially with terrible blocking from tight ends, a struggling left tackle and an injured pugh. There whole running game was the draw and hope the back could make someone miss. They are going to run the ball better this year.

Its odd how upset you get when I talk about the other good teams in the division. I have news for you NY, Washington and Dallas are all pretty similar and all should have outstanding offenses and NY has the best Defense of the bunch. I do think NY's defense will not be as good but still the best in the division which is what this is all about winning the division. Maybe you should start a fan club.

btw the Giants went 11-5 beat Dallas twice and lost to the same team Dallas did to end their season last year and you told me they would be terrible. How do you get to take this stance on me?

 

[haleyrules]

Ethel Merman!! WTH...LOL.

 

[haleyrules]

Personally, I have our team going 10-6.

Teams are currently gaming planning against Dak and Zeke. It's not going to be easy; however, they will make the playoffs barring any injuries.

Thats resonable...everything considered. I don't like the schedule.

 

[ActualCowboysFan]

Its odd how upset you get

Can you direct me to an example of my being upset?

 

[haleyrules]

Agreed. We need to build on what Dak did well last year which is finding the open man. I hope that we don't brain wash him into changing that and forcing the ball to Dez "no separation" Bryant.

If Prescott is truly a franchise QB...He won't need Bryants jump ball heroics. He will find the open receiver and make this offense really dangerous.

 

[haleyrules]

He could be right, he could be completely off.

I think it all depends on how well Dak comes back and plays, and if we have someone step up as another Receiving threat opposite Dez.

No that is not Williams

And how this young reconstructed defense performs. The defense is the key. The offense is set and solid.

 

[ALBIT]

I don't get why people get all over a guy because he says something about your team. What he said was by NO means outlandish. It could very well be true. Last year pretty much everything fell into place, ( other than Romo ) we didn't have the usual Key player get hurt and miss alot of time. Come on, Sean Lee played the whole year!! Alot of things went are way.

Sure give all the credit in the world to every player responsible for our record last year. Kudos to all of them. This year be careful, thats all Im saying. We are playing much better QB this year and I don't care how many defensive players we drafted this defense is not very good. Let's hope these guys are the future to changing all that , but it takes a little time.

Alot of teams now will be gunning for the Cowboys, they are not sneaking up on anyone. Also, I just don't love Garrett and his ability to adjust to situations. I doubt Dak has the year he had last year and that would be OK. No one can knock the guy if he dosent. He will have a very good future in this league. Of course im sounding like Capt obvious here, im not throwing out ground breaking reasons here but I just think it's all a reality. This team is not winning 13 games ( and that's OK ). We had alot go right last year, let's see how it all plays out this year. Im excited for the season. I wish it was this Sunday. I just think my expectations are a bit lower than most. Im wrong on many things, so I sure hope this is one of them.

 

[RoboQB]

If Prescott is truly a franchise QB...He won't need Bryants jump ball heroics. He will find the open receiver and make this offense really dangerous.

I gotta respectfully disagree here, Haley. To a degree, anyway. There are times when it's right to use your
#1 guy regardless. I'm thinking of the day Aikman steps in and tells Irvin "I'm going to you no matter what".
Now, history tells us that we lost that game but what a roaring attempted comeback by a QB and his #1 guy.

That said, I agree. Today's game works best when we are mixing up the run and pass with everyone getting several
looks or touches. But then there's Romo throwing it up in GB to Dez for the go ahead score... uh, almost.

 

[haleyrules]

I gotta respectfully disagree here, Haley. To a degree, anyway. There are times when it's right to use your
#1 guy regardless. I'm thinking of the day Aikman steps in and tells Irvin "I'm going to you no matter what".
Now, history tells us that we lost that game but what a roaring attempted comeback by a QB and his #1 guy.

That said, I agree. Today's game works best when we are mixing up the run and pass with everyone getting several
looks or touches. But then there's Romo throwing it up in GB to Dez for the go ahead score... uh, almost.

Yes, of course. Bryant is still a huge asset and will and should be utilised. It is a bonus if the QB doesn't have to depend on one player or two to make his attack work. A truly elite QB finds a way to win with all his assets. I have a good feeling about the Cowboy offense with Prescott running it.

 

[DFWJC]

Per Colin Cowherd and Vegas, the Cowboys will be a 9-7 team ( the fourth best in the NFC).

https://sportsday.***BANNED-URL***/...gas-sees-cowboys-borderline-playoff-team-2017

I personally find this article odd, all the sites sports betting sites I've visited have the Cowboys second or third only to the Patriots to win the Super Bowl.

Vegas knows best baby!

Sure, Herd is not out of line with many of the writers out there. The norm seems to be in the 9-7 to 10-6 range given the schedule.

But at least at this stage, the pros think these Cowboys will do better, and maybe way better.

 

[AsthmaField]

What a coincidence... I think Cowherd has a borderline radio talk show.