Czabe article about Commanders camp (lots of LOL)

[jterrell]

People would take Czaban more seriously if he actually present at training camp, practices and the scrimmage.

Nobody has disputed any of his facts however.

No biggie though, I am sure lil Danny boy will just buy out his station and fire him. Anything other than abject boot licking is mutiny.

The best thing about Danny Snyder is that he makes Jerry Jones look a great, football genius owner.

 

[random Cs]

Why? If he was at the scrimmage would St. Gibbs have let Campbell play? How about all the other players he kept out?

Campbell played. We had mostly Collins, Bramlet and Palmer play in the 11on11's.

The other players were kept out because they're injured already.

Not only has Czaban never been to a practice, but he didn't even watch the scrimmage.

 

[firehawk350]

Uh...any comments, fireSquaw?

It's just another writer spewing the nationally accepted norm, so who cares? This kinda reporting makes me wonder if there's some kinda media convention every year to determine who they collectively think will do well and who to bash on.

JC was held out of the 11-on-11s in scrimmage because his arm was getting sore from all the reps he's been taking. A lot like Romo has had his work scaled back a bit.

I don't know how he said this year looks softer then last one, since he gave no reasoning. It's like saying, I may have the best situational awareness in the world. You can't argue with an ambigious statement with no justification.

Brandon Lloyd does need to get out there and practice, but he's had a good training camp so far and has been doing well when in, and assuming he does have shin splints (which are easily treated with rest and ice), there's no need to rush him back unless you want this problem to not go away. If it was reg season, he'd be in.

Yeah, let's rush back Portis to prove a point. Great idea...

This guy is a moron, there are plenty of position battles at Skins camp... #3 QB (Palmer vs. Collins), #3 RB (Blaylock vs. Cartwright), #2 and #5 receiver, #2 DT (Golston, Monty and Salave'a), #2 CB (Rogers vs. Smoot) and #5 CB (Butler, Westbrook, Jimoh).

Why is it disturbing that he's having them jump at every loose ball? This is actually a good idea since officials are going to rule more "catch then fumble" then incompletions this year. They need to get outta the mindset that if a receiver drops the ball, it's an incompletion. Either way though, if we weren't doing something to remedy this problem, what would he say then?

The youngster is actually Golston, who is low 20s. Griffin is 30 or 31, not exactly ancient... Then there's Daniels, who really is old. So the average age of the line is somewhere around 27/28. Not young, but not terribly old either.

Who cares, if somebody was to say something bad about the Boys, it's because they are a know nothing mediot. They say something bad about the skins, all of a sudden, the media is informed and unbiased.

 

[superpunk]

Sczabe is a huge Commanders fan. He's just disappointed with the direction lord Gibbs has taken them in, and doesn't see it improving. His article, while pretty shallow and barely informative, was honestly on point for an opinion column. Considering he is a fan, and is this down on what they're doing - is exciting.

And don't poo-poo him for not being there. I'm sure he can get all the info he needs from Braham Weinstein and Andy Polley.

 

[firehawk350]

Sczabe is a huge Commanders fan. He's just disappointed with the direction lord Gibbs has taken them in, and doesn't see it improving. His article, while pretty shallow and barely informative, was honestly on point for an opinion column. Considering he is a fan, and is this down on what they're doing - is exciting.

And don't poo-poo him for not being there. I'm sure he can get all the info he needs from Braham Weinstein and Andy Polley.

An "on point opinion column"??? All he did was say things like, Campbell didn't throw a couple of balls to scrub receivers in the scrimmage, DOOM!

Portis isn't practicing through the pain, DOOM!

Williams is having players jump on incompletions, DOOM!

If your going to get paid for your analysis, even if it's an opinion, you better come with some facts to back it up. I can have an opinion like the Patriots are going to go 0-16, but it's just ******** unless I show some evidence that indicates that is a coherent rational thought.

 

[alancdc]

I agree with the guy......Their D line is going to be their downfall this year. Well, that and I think Campbell is horrible.

 

[dogunwo]

An "on point opinion column"??? All he did was say things like, Campbell didn't throw a couple of balls to scrub receivers in the scrimmage, DOOM!

Portis isn't practicing through the pain, DOOM!

Williams is having players jump on incompletions, DOOM!

If your going to get paid for your analysis, even if it's an opinion, you better come with some facts to back it up. I can have an opinion like the Patriots are going to go 0-16, but it's just ******** unless I show some evidence that indicates that is a coherent rational thought.

If the QBs are wearing red jerseys in the scrimmage to indicate not to hit them, why would you hold them out?

 

[HighTechDave]

An "on point opinion column"??? All he did was say things like, Campbell didn't throw a couple of balls to scrub receivers in the scrimmage, DOOM!

Portis isn't practicing through the pain, DOOM!

Williams is having players jump on incompletions, DOOM!

If your going to get paid for your analysis, even if it's an opinion, you better come with some facts to back it up. I can have an opinion like the Patriots are going to go 0-16, but it's just ******** unless I show some evidence that indicates that is a coherent rational thought.

cliff notes:

"I predict DOOM for the Commanders, including a little DOOMSDAY DEFENSE"

uuraaah!

 

[theebs]

that was a terrible article.

even though it hasnt gone well for gibbs, the guy is still a great coach. I dont put any stock into what they do at camp. If they have a healthy team in september to get started they can be a good team. I think the schedule is good for them, starting at home as always and finishing there also.

If that team is healthy and gets off to a good start, they can be a playoff team. They are in the same situation as us and ny. All three teams have as much going for them as against them.

I would be suprised to see gibbs have another losing season, if he does he is going to look really really bad. IF he has 3 of 4 losing seasons I am curious to see what all the gibbs apologists say, because parcells had 3 of 4 winning seasons in Dallas and rebuilt the team with young talent and everybody was all over him.

 

[Stash]

I agree with his opinion.

I see the same issues with the team that he points out - with a few others for good measure.

The Commanders are a team with no leadership, no direction, and a coach looking for the door.

Much like Parcells, I think the game has passed Gibbs by somewhat.

I see them fighting it out for 3rd place in the NFC East with a rudderless, leaderless Giants team.

 

[5Stars]

Who cares, if somebody was to say something bad about the Boys, it's because they are a know nothing mediot. They say something bad about the skins, all of a sudden, the media is informed and unbiased.

And you were over here a few days ago chastising the Cowboys for some of their starters on the oline not practicing because they were recovering from injuries!

Get it!

What's good for the goose is good for a RedStink!

:dissskin:

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

Whether the author is a skins fan, whether he was right or wrong last year.

I have to say it sounds like some guy coming across as a negative nancy like we get some posters here doing every offseason or preseason.

Not saying what he is saying is wrong, not saying what he is saying will not pan out to his predictions.

But he just sounds like an everyday negative nancy poster that I have seen the exact likes of on this site for this team.

Oh well...that is just what it looked like to me.

But I don't know the guy, I don't believe I have ever read his stuff, have never seen or heard him to my knowledge either so I could be completely wrong about him.

 

[firehawk350]

And you were over here a few days ago chastising the Cowboys for some of their starters on the oline not practicing because they were recovering from injuries!

Get it!

What's good for the goose is good for a RedStink!

:dissskin:

Correction... I was saying that if you list one of your reasons for having a "good camp" as you have max participation by all players, I think having your starting tackles precludes that assumption. I never said that the Boys were having a bad camp or said that the Skins were having a good camp.

All I'm saying is that to base season predictions on the little you can learn from camp (especially without being there) is far-fetched.

 

[firehawk350]

If the QBs are wearing red jerseys in the scrimmage to indicate not to hit them, why would you hold them out?

Good job for reading the whole thread. I stated earlier (which I will restate so you won't have to be bothered by such nuisances as being informed) that Campbell was held out because his arm needed a rest because he got a lot of reps. A lot like Romo has done the last couple of days.

 

[5Stars]

Correction... I was saying that if you list one of your reasons for having a "good camp" as you have max participation by all players, I think having your starting tackles precludes that assumption. I never said that the Boys were having a bad camp or said that the Skins were having a good camp.

All I'm saying is that to base season predictions on the little you can learn from camp (especially without being there) is far-fetched.

Man, I hope you are sitting down! That spin is amazing...

Oh, well...a tool is a tool, I suppose.

 

[Stash]

Correction... I was saying that if you list one of your reasons for having a "good camp" as you have max participation by all players, I think having your starting tackles precludes that assumption. I never said that the Boys were having a bad camp or said that the Skins were having a good camp.

All I'm saying is that to base season predictions on the little you can learn from camp (especially without being there) is far-fetched.

And judging by the fact that good news is coming out of Cowboys camp while bad news is coming out of Commanders camp, it doesn't surprise me that you would have that opinion.

 

[superpunk]

Whether the author is a skins fan, whether he was right or wrong last year.

I have to say it sounds like some guy coming across as a negative nancy like we get some posters here doing every offseason or preseason.

Not saying what he is saying is wrong, not saying what he is saying will not pan out to his predictions.

But he just sounds like an everyday negative nancy poster that I have seen the exact likes of on this site for this team.

Oh well...that is just what it looked like to me.

But I don't know the guy, I don't believe I have ever read his stuff, have never seen or heard him to my knowledge either so I could be completely wrong about him.

You're right, of course.

But Czabe is almost always homered out in August. Annually, he and Andy Polley go over the Skins schedule and almost always have them losing only 3 or 4 (no matter their previous finish) then they wrap up with a statement like "12-4 - and I don't know how we're gonna lose 4."

He does have alot of contacts with insight into Commanders camp, so his observations likely have some basis - but of course he's being overdramatic.

 

[firehawk350]

I agree with his opinion.

I see the same issues with the team that he points out - with a few others for good measure.

The Commanders are a team with no leadership, no direction, and a coach looking for the door.

Much like Parcells, I think the game has passed Gibbs by somewhat.

I see them fighting it out for 3rd place in the NFC East with a rudderless, leaderless Giants team.

No leadership??? The Cowboys have "no leadership" using that same idea that I believe you are using (ie, young QBs can't effectively lead teams). Both are looking to young QBs for leadership. Defensively speaking, London Fletcher will our leader. So I don't know what your talking about there.

No direction... We have a central vision of what we want Commanders football to be, if that's what you mean. Pounding the ball with a vertical passing game to force defenses to be honest. On the D side of the ball, stopping the run is paramount. So, if you could clarify your statement.

Gibbs actually has stated he'll be with this club as "team president" long after he hangs up the whistle. So your looking for the door comment is pretty much just conjecture on your part.

Overall, the Skins have proved the media wrong on just about every turn. Sometimes to their detriment.

And if you think we'll be fighting for 3rd place with the Giants, that's fine, it's your opinion.

 

[firehawk350]

The news is how you read it. I've already went over this a thousand times and if your too slow to get it through your head by this point, I'm not going to explain it again.

And frankly, there isn't enough news coming out of Commanders camp for me to really base anything on. The only thing resembling a live blog is what they have on Commanders.com and excuse me if I don't take that as the god-given truth.

We've had a couple of injuries, though the only one serious is Samuels and he will most likely be back for the reg season.

 

[firehawk350]

Man, I hope you are sitting down! That spin is amazing...

Oh, well...a tool is a tool, I suppose.

Wow, way to respond with something resembling, you know, facts or anything honestly.

I've stated the exact same thing since the beginning. If I had some idiots think I said something else, excuse me for clarifying. But apparently I can't do that, so I'm done explaining it. Camp is a poor time to base season predictions off of. Preseason is barely any better. Hell, halfway through the season, people were calling the Cowboys super bowl contenders, how well did that work out for you guys?