Dak against the world

[nate dizzle]

And every year we are a couple pieces short of completing the puzzle not the same pieces every year but different ones when we have a power running game and a great offensive line we have no defense when we have a great pass rushing defense we have no power running game Jerry makes sure that we are always a couple pieces shy of getting over the hump I would think that as long as you have been a Cowboys fan you would have been able to recognize this also

There will never be a steak on every plate in the salary cap era. And I've got some bad news for you BR. When your QB comes off the rookie deal and gets the big contract, they are expected to win with less. There is going to be a lot more hamburger out there. And if he gets another big extension, it's going to get worse, not better.

 

[XXLMike]

Anybody else tired of watching these games end like this with dak against the world and no help.

Anybody that can't realize that he gave all he had and it still wasn't enough please don't respond because you just don't get it.

He needs a power freaking running game like he had with Zeke in his prime and our front office refuses to give it to him the more we try and work around it the more we will fail.

We could have made Derrick Henry an offer he couldn't refuse and we would have won this game.

Being one-dimensional at the end of a game like that going against the eagles defense pinning their ears back and coming is no way to try and win.

Trying to pass on every down with 3 minutes left to go was an absolute coaching disgrace but it was done because there was no confidence in the running game.

I keep saying it we need a closer we need a guy that can finish that can make a defense play honest and respect the play action.

We got nothing but Dak out on an Island at the end of these games with no protection trying to pull off a miracle and it's not going to happen.

Tony Romo lived that life first .

 

[Blackrain]

Tony Romo lived that life first .

And that didn't end well either

 

[meddleroidz]

pollard was doing ok , its not easy running against philly, so its always up to the QB, hence we're gonna steamroll the 49ers cant wait, i hate that franchise even more than the cowboys

 

[Blackrain]

There will never be a steak on every plate in the salary cap era. And I've got some bad news for you BR. When your QB comes off the rookie deal and gets the big contract, they are expected to win with less. There is going to be a lot more hamburger out there. And if he gets another big extension, it's going to get worse, not better.

I got news for you most of them don't win with less so why should we be any different.

Jerry chose to continue his experiment with 8 and 8 Garrett and wasted Daks rookie contract.
Put the blame where it belongs it's on Jerry for choosing his comfort over a real Coach that could get us over the hump while we had dak on the cheap.

 

[Typhus]

Anybody else tired of watching these games end like this with dak against the world and no help.

Anybody that can't realize that he gave all he had and it still wasn't enough please don't respond because you just don't get it.

He needs a power freaking running game like he had with Zeke in his prime and our front office refuses to give it to him the more we try and work around it the more we will fail.

We could have made Derrick Henry an offer he couldn't refuse and we would have won this game.

Being one-dimensional at the end of a game like that going against the eagles defense pinning their ears back and coming is no way to try and win.

Trying to pass on every down with 3 minutes left to go was an absolute coaching disgrace but it was done because there was no confidence in the running game.

I keep saying it we need a closer we need a guy that can finish that can make a defense play honest and respect the play action.

We got nothing but Dak out on an Island at the end of these games with no protection trying to pull off a miracle and it's not going to happen.

The great QBs evolve other players the good QBs try and make the best with what they got.
Dak is doing good with what he has.

 

[nate dizzle]

I got news for you most of them don't win with less so why should we be any different.

Jerry chose to continue his experiment with 8 and 8 Garrett and wasted Daks rookie contract.
Put the blame where it belongs it's on Jerry for choosing his comfort over a real Coach that could get us over the hump while we had dak on the cheap.

I understand the Jerry dilemma, and yes, overall blame for the past near 30 decades is on him, but the thing is he ain't going anywhere and his family will own it for the lifetimes of many on this board. So people either have to deal with that or find a new team. I've come to grips with it and washed it down with a shot of apathy and a chaser of cynicism.

And yes, teams do win with less. Do you really think all the Super Bowls or even NFC/AFCCG of the past 30 years were won by perfectly built rosters? Burrow hasn't had an offensive lineman so much as get in somebody's way his whole career. Mahommes literally has a TE to throw to and a RBBC that rarely does anything. Rams loaded up and won one and then went to cap hell. Bucs went and got Brady to cover up their deficiencies and that worked for a year. Those are just some I can think of recently.

 

[Wangchung83]

Spot on once again brother, but your 100% accurate post will fall on deaf ears around here. This place is infected with not too smart trolls who don't understand the game of football.

No the eagles defense sucks, they were playing with backup secondaries and held dak in check. They aren’t the eagles of old most qbs have lit them up this year, one dimensional excuses

 

[America's Cowboy]

No the eagles defense sucks, they were playing with backup secondaries and held dak in check. They aren’t the eagles of old most qbs have lit them up this year, one dimensional excuses

Dak was held in check? Dak actually carried the team. 375 passing yards, 3 passing TDs, 0 INTs, passer rating of 115.3. Doesn't sound like Dak was held in check at all. You probably have him confused for Hurts.

 

[Steve007]

Anybody else tired of watching these games end like this with dak against the world and no help.

Anybody that can't realize that he gave all he had and it still wasn't enough please don't respond because you just don't get it.

He needs a power freaking running game like he had with Zeke in his prime and our front office refuses to give it to him the more we try and work around it the more we will fail.

We could have made Derrick Henry an offer he couldn't refuse and we would have won this game.

Being one-dimensional at the end of a game like that going against the eagles defense pinning their ears back and coming is no way to try and win.

Trying to pass on every down with 3 minutes left to go was an absolute coaching disgrace but it was done because there was no confidence in the running game.

I keep saying it we need a closer we need a guy that can finish that can make a defense play honest and respect the play action.

We got nothing but Dak out on an Island at the end of these games with no protection trying to pull off a miracle and it's not going to happen.

Dak got the big contract. That's what happens when you get the big bucks. The island is going to get more remote in the next couple of years. Dak will be 31 next year and his cap hit will be 60 million. The cowboys will have to extend him several years to get the cap numbers down. That means kicking the can down the road with a guy who in 8 years hasent gotten past the second round of the playoffs. It's not going to be good.

 

[Rockport]

And we have instead a little cool dude running back. A big old boy would have tanking it in instead Dak tried to do it.
Screw Jerrra for not getting a bruiser.

Preach it.

 

[Kwyn]

Why are we paying him like he is the "guy"...................??????
Do you know how many HB/WR you can buy with 40 million a year???

Two.

The number is two.

And, in your scenario, one of them has to play QB.

 

[Cowfan75]

Dobbs (Vikes) would have made it a TD and he only costs peanuts compared to Mr.Deer in the headlights.

And Dobbs ate Dak's lunch on the playground.

 

[Blackrain]

I understand the Jerry dilemma, and yes, overall blame for the past near 30 decades is on him, but the thing is he ain't going anywhere and his family will own it for the lifetimes of many on this board. So people either have to deal with that or find a new team. I've come to grips with it and washed it down with a shot of apathy and a chaser of cynicism.

And yes, teams do win with less. Do you really think all the Super Bowls or even NFC/AFCCG of the past 30 years were won by perfectly built rosters? Burrow hasn't had an offensive lineman so much as get in somebody's way his whole career. Mahommes literally has a TE to throw to and a RBBC that rarely does anything. Rams loaded up and won one and then went to cap hell. Bucs went and got Brady to cover up their deficiencies and that worked for a year. Those are just some I can think of recently.

That's an excellent post and I certainly realize that I watched my best cowboy football long ago and probably will never see anything close to it again.

That said I realize that championships were won with less than perfect rosters but I do believe that the coach quarterback combinations that got this done were a bit more talented than what we have here not that our situation creates a total impossibility but I do believe it requires a more talented roster to get the job done.

 

[Blackrain]

Dak played a damn good game for what he has to deal with. Next time around, the eagles fly down to Dallas.

The Cowboys need a big back, the rest are just Ok, but not what they need at the goal line.

Exactly brother we need a closer that can impose his will and get those tough yards

 

[plymkr]

No he doesn't.

They can't open holes against positive fronts, Henry doesn't change that.

I agree. Henry is not going to make Steele play better. And Henry is not going to make the flawed running game better. Pollard is not his explosive self but the eun blocking is a problem.

 

[Blackrain]

But two offensive coordinators, several receivers and a head coach later, still not enough for Dak

Lather, rinse, repeat

You seem level headed, I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree

I'm not saying it wouldn't be enough for some but just from what I have been seeing in these tough games it appears that he needs more to get past the best of the best.
We can definitely be lesser teams and even blow many out when we are playing to our strengths.
But to get deep into the tournament it just appears that we need more talent than what we have to get past the top teams in our conference

 

[Blackrain]

The great QBs evolve other players the good QBs try and make the best with what they got.
Dak is doing good with what he has.

I agree Dak has been playing well with what he has against most teams.
But I feel to get past the top couple teams in this conference he needs a little more help in the way of a power running game

 

[erod]

Because pappy the same idiot that is not getting him the power running game is the guy that paid him to do what he's not capable of doing even though he is giving it his all and doing his best.
Understand and admit this the man is trying his best he realizes the urgency he is sacrificing his body he is just not talented enough to raise the whole team without more help it doesn't matter if we pay him $150

If you paid him less, you could get him a LOT more help. Why is that so hard to understand?

Jerry isn't going to manipulate the cap for that, so here we are.

 

[plymkr]

There are 64+ quarterbacks in the league and this 4th round drafted quarterback named Dak Prescott has managed to play himself into the top 10 out of 64+ quarterbacks the majority of his career. Do you realize how many 1st and 2nd round quarterbacks he's outplayed during that time who AREN'T in the top 10???

Dak got paid what he got paid, because the market dictated that according to his production at that time.

There are a few quarterbacks who are paid more than Dak and have a worse winning percentage and less playoff wins than Dak has. So what do you have to say about them??

(I bet that last question goes unanswered?

Other than Mahomes, Burrows and Lamar Jackson, what other max contract quarterbacks production are matching their contract numbers??? Especially the quarterbacks making MORE than Dak?? Care to explain this too??

(I bet this question goes unanswered as well)

I would say besides Mahomes, Burrow and Jackson every other team, including us, is ruining their roster with a highly paid QB. I just finished watching MNF and Herbert is a waste. Talk about a bad contract. Deshaun Watson is stealing money, complete waste. I can go on and on.

But just because other teams are crippling themselves with bad QB contracts doesn't mean we have to.

My biggest beef with Dak is the looming contract extension he might get. If he gets extended for 50-55 million APY then we're screwed for a couple years. Not because of salary cap but because Dak isn't clutch and he's hit his talent ceiling. He's taken us as far as he can but there's still issues with his game that are not resolved 8 years into his career.

If you gave me the option of trading Dak out for Jones, Cousins, Herbert, Wilson, Carr I would give a hard no. Cousins is Dak. Herbert is a physical freak but not a winner. I'd rather roll the dice on a new younger guy than a capped out veteran. Or I'd rather pay someone like Tyrod Taylor very little and build up a strong team around him. Dak doesn't have the "clutch gene", he doesn't win bug games. That's why I don't want to resign him, not because of the money.