Dak and the elephant in the room

[jgboys1]

Let’s get this out of the way first:

1. I’m pro Dak
2. He is better than Rush
3. I’m not suggesting Rush should start over Dak
4. I hope we win a super bowl with Dak.

Having said that it’s time that people started being realistic about our QB situation:

1. Dak starts off horribly slow.
2. Dak killed several drives today that were totally ON DAK.
3. He’s not a top 10 QB.
4. He struggled with the 32nd ranked defense.
5. Something is wrong with Dak in terms of seeing/processing the field.
6. Dak’s accuracy is very suspect. I’d say Dak is in the bottom 1/3 of the league in that category.
7. Dak doesn’t elevate the team. Dak doesn’t elevate the team.
8. The WRs are getting plenty open, Dak just doesn’t see them.
9. If they don’t run Dak 3-4 times per game —Dak is going to have a much harder time winning. He needs that threat to keep defenses more honest.
10. The only way Dak wins a SB is if the team Carrie’s him. He is nothing more than a middling bus driver right now.
11. I would love to see Dak develop and become the next Tom Brady, but I don’t think Dak has the football IQ to get it done.
12. Dak has the physical traits but he doesn’t have the mind to get it done as of right now.
13. I like Dak and I like Zeke as a Cowboys fan, but those two together are a handicap to overcome.

This post needs to be pinned to the top of the list! A great evaluation of Dak. He is not as bad as some people think he is, but he is definitely not a top 10 QB. Not worth the money Jerry is paying him, IMHO. We will need to keep on running the ball and the defense needs to play at or above the level it has been playing. Need to be better against the run, if we are going to go anywhere this season.

 

[JMech]

The Lions have the worst defense in the NFL and previously conceded the following number of points this season:

38 (Eagles), 27 (Washington), 28 (Vikings), 48 (Seahawks) and 29 (Patriots).

The Cowboys scored 0 points in the 1st quarter, they were trailing 6-3 at half time and were a Micah Parsons TD saving tackle away from falling behind in the 4th quarter. The score was 10-6 to the Cowboys until deep in the 4th quarter when the Dallas D forced two turnovers in Lions territory to jazz up the scoreline. Prescott even butchered a field goal attempt by falling over and taking a needless sack to waste an excellent return by Turpin.

If people simply look at the result they see oh 24 points were put up and they look at Prescott's window dressed numbers and everything looks easy and efficient. When in reality when people actually consider the facts of the game it's a different story.

I'm not overly fussed how many yards Prescott throws for - but obviously the less yards and fewer big plays he executes, particularly at key moments, only exacerbates how bad his contract actually is when the team could have a competent rookie or vet QB earning chicken feed to throw for circa 225 yards a game, 2 TDs and 0 Interceptions pursuant to a conservative game plan playing off an elite defense.

Romo and Brees dialed in down towards the backend of their career but it was fine as they were still capable of producing big plays when required - particularly Romo in 2014.

My main concern with Prescott is for him to be more effective he really needs to use his legs more - will we see that going forwards?

So you missed two key points which invalidates your drivel.

1. Dak was off for 6 weeks and has just started throwing in practice. No doubt there was rust that needed to be cleaned up. This is still the same QB running the show from last year that had the top scoring O in the league.
2. Detroit had a bye week. They had time to work on their defensive shortcomings and prepare for the Cowboys. They had one of the top scoring offenses in the league thus far. The coach is not a dummy and he works his players hard and they played hard for him.

 

[Reid1boys]

We were terrible on 3rd and short, that's not on the QB.

Ok...so those 2 3rd and shorts weren't on Dak... the rest.....it was on Dak. This isn't all that difficult. Look at the teams that score points, fairly consistently...they have good qbs. Don't tell me they are just better ask over than us, that's garbage.

 

[Fizziksman]

We had 10 freaking points with 4 minutes left in the game against the bottom 2 defense in the nfl......but its the play calling, wrs, oline.....the guy seeking hot dogs and the at&t parking attendants fault, and not dak's? Get out of here with that garbage.

our inability to score came down to the lions being able to make key plays on third down especially third and short run stuffs and get a turnover in the redzone, oh and one was the play Tyler got pantsed

 

[Cowboyny]

Ok...so those 2 3rd and shorts weren't on Dak... the rest.....it was on Dak. This isn't all that difficult. Look at the teams that score points, fairly consistently...they have good qbs. Don't tell me they are just better ask over than us, that's garbage.

They were 3-9 on third downs, with many being 3rd and shorts.

 

[GINeric]

Did I say you? No. I made a general statement so no need to be defensive or paranoid.

That said, you bringing up whether I have kids or not and insulting my service shows what a peon you are in terms of character and for that you are lumped into a group of others that do the same BS because of your overly emotional investment into a football team.

You ended the other post addressed to me by saying..... "stop the hypocrisy".

Defensive and paranoid, im not. Im in a great mood that my favorite football team won yesterday. A great team victory.

The better question is, why are you in such a bad mood if you're REALLY a Cowboys fan???

You are angry and emotional that Dak and all of the other players all contributed to a nice win over a scrappy Lions team that almost beat the undefeated Eagles, the 5-1 Vikings, and the 4-3 Seahawks.

Dak inspired the guys like a true leader does to beat the Lions in a way those other good teams couldn't.

And that makes you and your anti-Dak crew angry.... VERY angry. If you and all the other minions who cheer against Dak were David Banner.... all of yall would have turned green and have this board looking like a dispensary full of Incredible Hulks.....


LOOOOOOOOOOL!!!!!

 

[streetcredit]

That was the worst defense in the league....Romo was saying that there were huge holes in the defense.

 

[Vtwin]

The football gods provided us with THE perfect game to highlight the hypocrisy of the extreme Dak fanboys.

If Rush played that exact same game the narrative would have been... " defense got 5 takeaways, held the Lions to 6 points, and thank heavens for the running game! The offense only converted 3 of 9 first downs. The Rush threw three almost interceptions, only 191 yards passing and could only manage a FG in the first half and ten points through 3 quarters! The defense won that game not Rush!!!"

But since it was #4 putting up the same game we've seen from Rush it's suddenly back to the status quo of "Moore sucks, the o-line sucks and EBD".

If I was brand new here I'd think you guys were just joking around. You'd pretty much have to be to suggest Dak was overall any better than Rush has been.

I'll take that team win against a wounded and dangerous opponent, all day every day. Great job men! Dak played the "just don't lose it" role pretty well even though he needed some luck on a few passes he put very much in harms way.

I will also say this though. Go back and watch the sack Dak took where he just fell down without being touched. If I were tasked with putting together 5 plays from Dak's career that show what he is, that play would be in there. What the heck was going on there?

 

[glimmerman]

Dak has none of these problems in 2016. He handed off the ball and passes short. Play action. Was considered a good close window passer. Ran with the ball.

Now everything is deeper passes. From the pocket. Holding on to the ball to long. Taking sacks. Don’t want to take off with the ball. That first play yesterday was a score. He missed a wide open play. That was a close pass. We could run the ball and later they stuck with it.

 

[blueblood70]

Let’s get this out of the way first:

1. I’m pro Dak
2. He is better than Rush
3. I’m not suggesting Rush should start over Dak
4. I hope we win a super bowl with Dak.

Having said that it’s time that people started being realistic about our QB situation:

1. Dak starts off horribly slow.
2. Dak killed several drives today that were totally ON DAK.
3. He’s not a top 10 QB.
4. He struggled with the 32nd ranked defense.
5. Something is wrong with Dak in terms of seeing/processing the field.
6. Dak’s accuracy is very suspect. I’d say Dak is in the bottom 1/3 of the league in that category.
7. Dak doesn’t elevate the team. Dak doesn’t elevate the team.
8. The WRs are getting plenty open, Dak just doesn’t see them.
9. If they don’t run Dak 3-4 times per game —Dak is going to have a much harder time winning. He needs that threat to keep defenses more honest.
10. The only way Dak wins a SB is if the team Carrie’s him. He is nothing more than a middling bus driver right now.
11. I would love to see Dak develop and become the next Tom Brady, but I don’t think Dak has the football IQ to get it done.
12. Dak has the physical traits but he doesn’t have the mind to get it done as of right now.
13. I like Dak and I like Zeke as a Cowboys fan, but those two together are a handicap to overcome.

disagree with half that and won't respond further.. dak haters see the play a lot different drive killers were

OL penalty's
OL missing blocks
Bad play calls in short yardage
Noah Brown Fumble
WR dropping passes and separation still an issue,
Yes dak was a bit rusty but 114QBR says he played pretty well considering.

WE WON!

daks struggling is Rushes ceiling, coming back from 5 weeks gone and broken hand

dont respond ,

I wont see it you made my ignore list because i no longer wasting time on haters.. you haters are no longer worth my time.. wasted mental energy..

 

[Vtwin]

I wont see it you made my ignore list because i no longer wasting time on haters.. you haters are no longer worth my time.. wasted mental energy..

And you clearly can't afford to waste any....

 

[Dorsett33]

What’s hard about it. Just watch him throw.

I can tell by this statement, you've never played football in your life and definitely not QB. You still think the Wizard of Oz is real. He actually can throw and very well.

 

[DanTanna]

5. Something is wrong with Dak in terms of seeing/processing the field.
6. Dak’s accuracy is very suspect. I’d say Dak is in the bottom 1/3 of the league in that category.

This has always been the case.

 

[SwagSurfer]

The football gods provided us with THE perfect game to highlight the hypocrisy of the extreme Dak fanboys.

If Rush played that exact same game the narrative would have been... " defense got 5 takeaways, held the Lions to 6 points, and thank heavens for the running game! The offense only converted 3 of 9 first downs. The Rush threw three almost interceptions, only 191 yards passing and could only manage a FG in the first half and ten points through 3 quarters! The defense won that game not Rush!!!"

But since it was #4 putting up the same game we've seen from Rush it's suddenly back to the status quo of "Moore sucks, the o-line sucks and EBD".

If I was brand new here I'd think you guys were just joking around. You'd pretty much have to be to suggest Dak was overall any better than Rush has been.

I'll take that team win against a wounded and dangerous opponent, all day every day. Great job men! Dak played the "just don't lose it" role pretty well even though he needed some luck on a few passes he put very much in harms way.

I will also say this though. Go back and watch the sack Dak took where he just fell down without being touched. If I were tasked with putting together 5 plays from Dak's career that show what he is, that play would be in there. What the heck was going on there?

Hutchinson beat Steele clean and was about to level Dak. What was he supposed to do in that situation? Take a hit and risk a fumble?

 

[Vtwin]

Hutchinson beat Steele clean and was about to level Dak. What was he supposed to do in that situation? Take a hit and risk a fumble?

Sidestep? Spin out? We see that happen every week here and there across the league. No guarantees of course but giving up and falling backwards does guarantee a sack and in this case, giving up three points in a tight, low scoring game. He gave up way to easy on that play.

 

[beware_d-ware]

Dak was definitely not playing fast yesterday. He was making Cooper Rush throws while taking 2x longer to process them.

 

[CouchCoach]

disagree with half that and won't respond further.. dak haters see the play a lot different drive killers were

OL penalty's
OL missing blocks
Bad play calls in short yardage
Noah Brown Fumble
WR dropping passes and separation still an issue,
Yes dak was a bit rusty but 114QBR says he played pretty well considering.

WE WON!

daks struggling is Rushes ceiling, coming back from 5 weeks gone and broken hand

dont respond ,

I wont see it you made my ignore list because i no longer wasting time on haters.. you haters are no longer worth my time.. wasted mental energy..

Good thing you didn’t respond further.

 

[dwreck27]

Dak can’t read defenses…. He’s been In the league 5+ years and still doesn’t know what he’s looking at. Can’t use some excuse of his college offense limited what he needed to know anymore… he’s paid to THE MAN!

those sacks he took were because he was lost looking and didn’t know where his check down was…. He threw multiple times into double(triple coverage at one time) because he was locked in on his pre snap read

dak seems like an awesome guy but losing Amari and the Oline in their prime has proven dak needed to be brought up by other great amazing players

 

[Streifenkarl]

I’ve said it in other posts and restate it here. Let the season play out. We all watched Cooper Rush play 4 games against both SB teams and an undefeated team. Now we get to watch Dak play with the exact same team: same weapons, same OL, same defense. That is a RARE gift for someone comparing QB play.

At the end of this season, I think the stats will allow people to make objective observations for and/or against Dak. Right now I’m just rooting for Dak and this defense to go supernova and take it all the way.

For the record, yes I was insanely frustrated at the overthrow on the early bootleg, and the unnecessary sack that took us out of fg range that Turpin handed us. I was also pleased at the late game play. Let the sample size grow. Let Cooper be the control in this rare experiment. Enjoy the season, then make conclusions

Very good post. One game at a time. But one should be allowed to criticize players and coaches for the stuff happening on the field. That's not hating. Actually far from it as it would be awesome if Dak would play lights out again and lead us to another SB.

 

[Verdict]

You didn't read that correctly.... I said there are current and former players, coaches, GMs and HOFers who say Dak ISN'T elite, but he IS very good. Thats the truth. Nobody said he's elite....

Speaking of elite quarterbacks and scoring 3 points.... not in a half, but a WHOLE GAME.

Tom Brady only put up 3 points yesterday against a Panthers team who's in full rebuild mode, being coached by an interim coach, and traded away McCaffrey who was their best player.....

According to your intelligent logic about elite quarterbacks and only scoring 3 points against arguably the worst team in the NFL.... enlighten us on your mindset about what happened to Brady please.....

Tom Brady doesn’t appear to be all that and a bag of chips lately either. The fat lady may be warming up to sing on him.

It is ironic that Father Time may or may not have caught up with him but Giselle may have been the mail in the coffin for him.