Dak by the numbers

[Stash]

Because we haven’t had another QB with Romo type talent.

We see and understand our handicaps and obstacles with front office and coaching staff, why are we intent on the same challenges at QB?

Talent is the best remedy for our dysfunctional situation.

No it isn't. There isn't enough talent in the world to overcome a head coach who can't coach. It doesn't exist.

They can't perform on the field, call their own plays, and decide for themselves whether to go for it or not, or set up for a field goal or go for a win. They will always be shackled by the incompetence of Jason Garrett, your head coach.

 

[Stash]

This is the casualty when you have an owner also wearing the GM hat. It presents a conflict of interest from the top with no direct accountability underneath.

That's undeniably true. And its most glaringly example is a coache never qualified for the job still being here after 9 years.

 

[Diehardblues]

That's undeniably true. And its most glaringly example is a coache never qualified for the job still being here after 9 years.

If you’d of followed me all of these years you’d know that I called out Jerry from the beginning naming Garrett” the future of the Dallas Cowboys”.

 

[Stash]

If you’d of followed me all of these years you’d know that I called out Jerry from the beginning naming Garrett” the future of the Dallas Cowboys”.

So why waste all of this time and effort defending and trying to prop up someone that you yourself claim to have "called Jerry out about"?

Jerry's faults and failing in no way give Garrett a pass for his. He's still not good at his job, whether Jones made the original mistake or not.

Your continued efforts to absolve Garrett of his own share of blame are misguided and flat out wrong.

 

[Diehardblues]

My support of Garrett has not been an endorsement of his coaching skills but rather a more sympathetic gesture.

I like Jason. Because of his Cowboy history and connection. He’s a puppet I can embrace.

I’ve maintained from the beginning if he has more success all will embrace him.

But now with Dak it appears it’s coming to an end. Jason is walking on hallowed ground .

My insider info this morning tells me no one is safe with Jerry intent on making Dak our future barring some kind of miraculous finish this season. If Jason can’t uplift Dak Jerry will look for someone else.

 

[rnr_honeybadger]

His support system in Dallas is a joke. “Dak Friendly” is actually Unfriendly. Not surprised givein that dumpster fire of an organization. They probably ruined him.

I agree, look at Mahomes and what he has around him - that's a support system for a young QB. Dak gets Kellen Moore.

 

[Whyjerry]

I agree, look at Mahomes and what he has around him - that's a support system for a young QB. Dak gets Kellen Moore.

I believe the Kellen Moore as QB Coach does not get enough attention. Think about it - the guy just turned 30. ZERO coaching experience. 2 career NFL starts. 104 passes. Only real claim to fame is that Scott Linehan likes him. We know what Scott Linehan is to this team.

In what world do you pass a 24 year old QB to that type of QB coach? No knock on Moore as he probably is a nice, smart guy but he has ZERO credibility as an NFL coach. Insane.

 

[Diehardblues]

So why waste all of this time and effort defending and trying to prop up someone that you yourself claim to have "called Jerry out about"?

Jerry's faults and failing in no way give Garrett a pass for his. He's still not good at his job, whether Jones made the original mistake or not.

Your continued efforts to absolve Garrett of his own share of blame are misguided and flat out wrong.

Like I said in another thread or post this morning. Jason is a puppet with his Cowboy history and connection I can embrace.

He’s given me something to root for with very little hope otherwise.

But now that it appears Jerry has chosen Dak above all else it appears time to let Jason go. That’s fine. It’s not going to matter anyway.

My hope with Garrett had mostly rested in him selecting the heir apparent to Romo with a top 1st round pick knowing Garrett needed that level of talent but if we’re stuck with Dak our future is dim. Jason isn’t enough to overcome .

 

[atlantacowboy]

I agree, look at Mahomes and what he has around him - that's a support system for a young QB. Dak gets Kellen Moore.

Mahomes and Dak are not even in the same area code in regard to talent.

 

[DFWJC]

Stat League Rank

Passer rating/QBR........... 24th
Total Yards Passing.......... 27th
TD Passes ......... 22nd
Completion %......... 26th
Yards per game......... 29th
Yards per attempt......... 26th

For a full time starter, I suspect this is (or is close to) the worst by any QB in Cowboy history.

 

[DFWJC]

I'd argue that they even ruined Romo. Can you imagine how much more success Tony would have had with a guy like Sean Peyton? Romo had a good career but he should be a HOFer. Garret's offensive scheme and offensive line bumbling robbed him of that potential.

If anything, this whole mess should've helped those that didn't fully appreciate Romo to come around...at least a little bit.
Not twisting anyone's arm to declare him a one of the absolute greats, but it should be clear that he was awfully good and not remotely the problem.

 

[aaev84]

Its inexplicable.

His rookie year against the giants when they played him in the 2nd head to head matchup is when I started to have personal doubts.

 

[Stash]

Like I said in another thread or post this morning. Jason is a puppet with his Cowboy history and connection I can embrace.

He’s given me something to root for with very little hope otherwise.

• What's that? 8-8 seasons?
• Icing your own kicker?
• Hiring awful assistants time after time after time?
• Having offensive playcalling taken away?
• Being further and further removed from all decision-making?
• Screwing up any knee that he still DOES make?

What is it exactly that he gives you to "root for"? Are you a family member? A distant cousin or something?

But now that it appears Jerry has chosen Dak above all else it appears time to let Jason go. That’s fine. It’s not going to matter anyway.

My hope with Garrett had mostly rested in him selecting the heir apparent to Romo with a top 1st round pick knowing Garrett needed that level of talent but if we’re stuck with Dak our future is dim. Jason isn’t enough to overcome .

It looks to me like, despite your crusade against Jerry Jones, you and he are very much alike. You both have this same crazy picture in your heads where Jason Garrett is a good coach, despite over a decade of evidence showing you the total opposite being true.

Jason wasn't never "enough to overcome" anything. In fact, most of all, he was what had to "be overcome". And you admit that yourself when you try to claim that there's a level of talent good enough to "oveercome Garrett". What you seem to fail to understand is that coaches are assets, not liabilities. Coaches are supposed to make their teams better, not an obstacle to be "overcome".

 

[SuspectCorner]

My support of Garrett has not been an endorsement of his coaching skills but rather a more sympathetic gesture.

I like Jason. Because of his Cowboy history and connection. He’s a puppet I can embrace.

I’ve maintained from the beginning if he has more success all will embrace him.

But now with Dak it appears it’s coming to an end. Jason is walking on hallowed ground .

My insider info this morning tells me no one is safe with Jerry intent on making Dak our future barring some kind of miraculous finish this season. If Jason can’t uplift Dak Jerry will look for someone else.

walking on thin ice is more like it

 

[Stash]

If anything, this whole mess should've helped those that didn't fully appreciate Romo to come around...at least a little bit.
Not twisting anyone's arm to declare him a one of the absolute greats, but it should be clear that he was awfully good and not remotely the problem.

When this is all over - thankfully over - there's will be a lot of lamentation and woe over all of the time, talent, money, and careers that was sacrificed and wasted on the fool's errand known as the Jason Garrett era.

 

[Philmonroe]

This coaching staff kills quarterbacks, just like they kill careers. Every quarterback they've ever had not named Romo has been ruined by them. Made to look utterly incompetent. And there's ten years of evidence of that. If Romo wasn't there bailing them out, the entire team was a trainwreck. And the only reason they weren't able to ruin Romo was because of the foundation that he had from several years of working with Bill Parcells and Sean Payton.

Each and every quarterback they've ever gotten their hands on has looked progressively worse with each passing season. Dak from 2016 to today and Cooper Rush from last year to this year being just the most recent examples.

These guys are a plague.

Please and I don't even like Garrett but stop parroting this basura that they ruin qbs like them qbs went jack spit anyway outside of Romo. Romo is the only decent qb they had and all the wack qbs did exactly what you'd expect. Seriously name the other qbs that we're sooo ruined and you'd see it isn't a murders row of qbs. Please stop parroting junk narratives.

 

[Diehardblues]

• What's that? 8-8 seasons?
• Icing your own kicker?
• Hiring awful assistants time after time after time?
• Having offensive playcalling taken away?
• Being further and further removed from all decision-making?
• Screwing up any knee that he still DOES make?

What is it exactly that he gives you to "root for"? Are you a family member? A distant cousin or something?



It looks to me like, despite your crusade against Jerry Jones, you and he are very much alike. You both have this same crazy picture in your heads where Jason Garrett is a good coach, despite over a decade of evidence showing you the total opposite being true.

Jason wasn't never "enough to overcome" anything. In fact, most of all, he was what had to "be overcome". And you admit that yourself when you try to claim that there's a level of talent good enough to "oveercome Garrett". What you seem to fail to understand is that coaches are assets, not liabilities. Coaches are supposed to make their teams better, not an obstacle to be "overcome".

I’ve laid it for you why I’ve supported Garrett. He’s more “ Cowboy” than any other puppets we’ve had.

Good luck to the next puppet. He’s going to need it.

 

[Diehardblues]

When this is all over - thankfully over - there's will be a lot of lamentation and woe over all of the time, talent, money, and careers that was sacrificed and wasted on the fool's errand known as the Jason Garrett era.

Jerry is the one who is wasting everyone’s time these last couple decades. Garrett is just the last segment in this continuing saga.

 

[aaev84]

Look at how much cooper rush regressed. He was the star of preseason last year, and this year he looks like utter trash. When you have a head coach that nobody knows what he actually does to benefit the football team and you have an offensive coordinator who literally runs Zeke into a defense that is waiting for him on 1st down OVER AND OVER and then puts us in a long and predictable passing situation on 2nd down, it's no wonder that the offense looks like trash.

This is the same staff that thought it was a great idea to not play Dak or Zeke ANY in preseason, especially when we had so many moving parts on offense.

Also, how can Dak get better when the guy teaching him is literally the guy he beat out for the starting spot and that guy has ZERO head coaching experience?

Dak might be ruined. We can draft another guy, but at most they MIGHT have one decent year here from coming from a well coached college program until they regress into nothingness. I absolutely do not want this coaching staff to get their hands on another qb. They've had Mark Sanchez who beat the Patriots AND the Manning led Colts to get to the conference championship. Couldn't win a game with him as a starter. Had Matt Cassell who went 11 and 5 with the patriots. Couldn't win a game with him as a starter. Even Brandon Weeden won something with the Texans. The only qb who has had somewhat success here was Dak for one year and Romo because he did his best to ignore the coaches and do his own thing.

In fact, the worst thing that could happen to us is we have another rookie qb come in, have one year of great success and Garrett gets a 5 year extension and we get to watch this same routine play out again.

If all Dak did was get us a new head coach, then he was a great addition to this team. I simply cannot tolerate this coaching staff throwing more historic talent away. We've already wasted Romo, Murray, Bailey, Witten, Dez, and more. Now we're wasting Zeke.

Honestly, it snowballed when Dallas decided not to extend Murray. That 2014 team and chemistry was special. Closest to feeling like what we had as fans in the 90s. Cowboys management just get too cute... then they had the fortune then misfortune with dak by going all in for one year of evaluation. Dak is equivalent to a penny stock that pumped and is now dumping. Lightning very rarely strikes twice and the franchise is and will continue to pay for it. That is the reality.

 

[lukin2006]

I'm still dumbfounded by the interception Dak threw vs. double coverage when the Cowboys were deep in the red zone against Tennessee.

Parcells or Johnston would have benched him permantley...