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Jerry is the one who is wasting everyone’s time these last couple decades. Garrett is just the last segment in this continuing saga.

Yes.

Jerry has wasted 23 years. Garrett has only wasted 10-plus. The lesser of two evils, but an evil nonetheless. And I will focus on the needed change that I know can happen over lamenting what I don't see as a possibility.

Garrett sucks at his job, can be and should be fired.

Jones sucks as a GM, but won't fire himself.
 

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I’ve laid it for you why I’ve supported Garrett. He’s more “ Cowboy” than any other puppets we’ve had.

"More Cowboy", wow, we've reached a new low around here.
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Good luck to the next puppet. He’s going to need it.

No disagreement there. The only hope is that the new guy isn't the puppet this one was.
 

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To be fair, we should point out his one stat he’s not poor in: percentage of passes intercepted, where he is right around average (and 14th overall). This is somewhat negated by his being 3rd in the league in lost fumbles though.
 

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"More Cowboy", wow, we've reached a new low around here.
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No disagreement there. The only hope is that the new guy isn't the puppet this one was.
In a dysfunctional basically hopeless situation I’ve had to find something to grasp onto to remain engulfed in Cowboys football and with Garrett’s “ Cowboys” roots it served as my motivation.

You even mentioned the other day if you lost hope it would be difficult to continue following. We’ll see what you grasp onto. Desperate times often calls for desperate measures.
 

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In a dysfunctional basically hopeless situation I’ve had to find something to grasp onto to remain engulfed in Cowboys football and with Garrett’s “ Cowboys” roots it served as my motivation.

It's the same delusion that the guy you rail against at every turn has. You have much in common with someone you claim to loathe so much.

You even mentioned the other day if you lost hope it would be difficult to continue following. We’ll see what you grasp onto. Desperate times often calls for desperate measures.

I mentioned that if Garrett somehow comes back, I won't. Therein lies my "hope".
 

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It's the same delusion that the guy you rail against at every turn has. You have much in common with someone you claim to loathe so much.



I mentioned that if Garrett somehow comes back, I won't. Therein lies my "hope".
So, your belief or support in Garrett's ability lies solely in his ability to win?

If we turned this season around you’d somehow arrive at the conclusion he’s not a horrible coach? Lol

Sounds like the same type of evaluations some fans make on players. If their team doesn’t win they must not be great players.
 

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So, your belief or support in Garrett's ability lies solely in his ability to win?

Yours isn't? Why do they put a win-loss record next to a head coach's name? Is that for decoration?

If we turned this season around you’d somehow arrive at the conclusion he’s not a horrible coach? Lol

No, eight games can't possibly overcome eight years, right?

But Jones and this team likely would, and I would resign myself to the fact that the guy must have done something right to get them there.

But I'll ask you, do you HONESTLY expect that to happen? No, so this is an attempted to divert the conversation.

Sounds like the same type of evaluations some fans make on players. If their team doesn’t win they must not be great players.

Last I checked, the wins and losses weren't listed next to all of the players names, so, no. Nice try. Another failed diversion attempt.

And any and all of these would be better reasons that the psychosis resulting from Garrett "being Cowboy enough." That's just sad.
 

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Yours isn't? Why do they put a win-loss record next to a head coach's name? Is that for decoration?



No, eight games can't possibly overcome eight years, right?

But Jones and this team likely would, and I would resign myself to the fact that the guy must have done something right to get them there.

But I'll ask you, do you HONESTLY expect that to happen? No, so this is an attempted to divert the conversation.



Last I checked, the wins and losses weren't listed next to all of the players names, so, no. Nice try. Another failed diversion attempt.

And any and all of these would be better reasons that the psychosis resulting from Garrett "being Cowboy enough." That's just sad.
What’s sad is Cowboys football this era under Jerry.

And no, I don’t expect Jason to turn it around. I have little hope moving forward unless Jerry gives it up. It’s like Ground Hog day if you recall the film:)
 

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It's the same delusion that the guy you rail against at every turn has. You have much in common with someone you claim to loathe so much.



I mentioned that if Garrett somehow comes back, I won't. Therein lies my "hope".
Oh, so if it doesn’t go your way. You’re walking?
Lol
 

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Yours isn't? Why do they put a win-loss record next to a head coach's name? Is that for decoration?



No, eight games can't possibly overcome eight years, right?

But Jones and this team likely would, and I would resign myself to the fact that the guy must have done something right to get them there.

But I'll ask you, do you HONESTLY expect that to happen? No, so this is an attempted to divert the conversation.



Last I checked, the wins and losses weren't listed next to all of the players names, so, no. Nice try. Another failed diversion attempt.

And any and all of these would be better reasons that the psychosis resulting from Garrett "being Cowboy enough." That's just sad.
I’d even argue a SB wouldn't overcome the last 23 years.
 

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Troy hit the nail on the head.

While we definitely have some weaknesses in our roster, especially DT, S, and TE, it really doesn't matter.
We've had different coaches, different QB's, different RB's and star receivers over a number of years, and it just hasn't mattered. The problem runs deeper
than the head coach, QB, etc.
 

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Compare to 2016.

Hard to believe it is the same player.
the problem is that you don't make decisions on stats alone. He has had the same issues as 2016. The coaches and scouts will tell you that...yes he was offensive rookie of the year based on stats...but he had flaws in throwing the ball, setting his feet, his accuracy, reading defenses, etc. in 2016....2 years later, things aren't perfect and there is 2 years of tape and now the defenses know what to do.....2016 was an anamoly but we were hooked, well jerry was hooked
 

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His support system in Dallas is a joke. “Dak Friendly” is actually Unfriendly. Not surprised givein that dumpster fire of an organization. They probably ruined him.
Dak friendly is a misnomer..... there is no system that's dak friendly, except if you run a college system.
 

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Look at how much cooper rush regressed. He was the star of preseason last year, and this year he looks like utter trash. When you have a head coach that nobody knows what he actually does to benefit the football team and you have an offensive coordinator who literally runs Zeke into a defense that is waiting for him on 1st down OVER AND OVER and then puts us in a long and predictable passing situation on 2nd down, it's no wonder that the offense looks like trash.

This is the same staff that thought it was a great idea to not play Dak or Zeke ANY in preseason, especially when we had so many moving parts on offense.

Also, how can Dak get better when the guy teaching him is literally the guy he beat out for the starting spot and that guy has ZERO head coaching experience?

Dak might be ruined. We can draft another guy, but at most they MIGHT have one decent year here from coming from a well coached college program until they regress into nothingness. I absolutely do not want this coaching staff to get their hands on another qb. They've had Mark Sanchez who beat the Patriots AND the Manning led Colts to get to the conference championship. Couldn't win a game with him as a starter. Had Matt Cassell who went 11 and 5 with the patriots. Couldn't win a game with him as a starter. Even Brandon Weeden won something with the Texans. The only qb who has had somewhat success here was Dak for one year and Romo because he did his best to ignore the coaches and do his own thing.

In fact, the worst thing that could happen to us is we have another rookie qb come in, have one year of great success and Garrett gets a 5 year extension and we get to watch this same routine play out again.

If all Dak did was get us a new head coach, then he was a great addition to this team. I simply cannot tolerate this coaching staff throwing more historic talent away. We've already wasted Romo, Murray, Bailey, Witten, Dez, and more. Now we're wasting Zeke.
star of preseason...whoooopppieeee...that's the problem, people make career projections based on preseason games.....

Dak wasn't ruined...Dak never had it..

wait wait wait...somebody is going to mention 2016 in 5.....4.....3.....2.....1


and people need to stop with this Matt cassell craap....he went 11-5 with bilicheck, the greatest coach in NFL history and lets not forget they came in 3rd in their division at 11-5, which tells us about quality of teams that division played that year...

also Matt cassell we got wasn't matt cassell of 10 years before that...he went to KC and was average.....and he was out of Football when we signed him, which means no team, not one of other 31 were willing to sign him as a back up....we lost Romo and we became desparate....because we thought Weeden was a good back up.....
 
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