Dak had Beasley or Dez for 6 with 40 seconds to go!

[CowboysRule]

and also what is up with Donnell being able to engage Byron Jones and throw him to the ground 5 yards into the end zone on a passing play? This was the game winner? How was there not a penalty?
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I was screaming about that. It seems we get called for a pick every time a DB runs into our WR's but he basically just tackled him in there.

 

[DogFace]

I just watched the first series on coaches film.

If you want to chart missed opportunities there were three on that drive. Not blaming Dak because we don't know his read progression for sure and what his coaches have told him to do.

1-10-20> Shotgun, 12 personnel, Zeke split wide left and motions into backfield. Witt strong left. Dez, Beas and Williams split rt. Witten drags to right, Dez angles to middle, Beaz straight up field and Williams an out. As Dak throws, all but Dez are clearly open...Beasley likely would have been TD, Williams a gain to about 7...Dak takes safe throw to Witten.

1-10-10> Shotgun, 11 personnel, Witt strong rt. Dez l slot, Beas and Williams left. Dez straight up seam....immediately open. Beasley drags behind him. High throw that Beas drops. Would have walked in. Dez would have walked in. DRC was lined up over Dez in slot and blitzed. As Dak set to throw DRC jumped, possibly blocking view of both Dez and Beas and making inaccurate throw. Beas has to catch this though. With two guys wide open, huge miss.

3-7-7> Shotgun, 11 personnel, Witt Strong L. Dez single rt. Williams l slot, Beas wide L. Dak checks down to Elliott crossing for short gain. When he threw, no one was open but no pressure. Could have held as Dez was just breaking open across end line. Another missed opportunity.

There are options on almost every play but it's hard to say exactly if Dak made the wrong play. In general, he was throwing to an open receiver so it's tough to say he made a bad play.

So, in your opinion, the coaching isn't too conservative, rather a rookie just didn't progress through all his reads.

The narrative has been all about the poor coaching. This is refreshing.

Thanks. Good stuff.

 

[DogFace]

Watching all the Beasley's catches on All22, I'm convinced the game plan for Dak was to give him two may three reads per play. TWill doesn't even turn to look at the QB on some of the plays. And one one play, he runs a go route and then starts to block the DB without turning his head around to the QB.

It looks like when he sees the other DBs react to Beasley's catch, he tries to get in the way of the DB in front of him immediately without looking back to the LOS. That tells me, he knew where the ball was going to go pre-snap and alsos knew he wasn't going to get the ball.

This somewhat validates what me and others were saying about Dez being the first read and Bease or Witt being the second read. My guess the game plan was to give him two reads even though he had 3 or more receivers out running routes. So if Twill and Witt were the two reads for a play, Dak wasn't looking at any other receivers to throw the ball. Even if they were open.

I saw this a couple of times during the game. I thought Dez was taking a play off. Now it makes sense.

 

[Fla Cowpoke]

Where do you guys get the coaches film and how much is it?

$100 for the season. You get all the games plus old games and other stuff. It is fun if you like seeing and analyzing what we are doing.

 

[Fla Cowpoke]

Excellent post. I didn't watch the film but came away after the game feeling the same way. Dak looked great out there. I felt the coaching once again let the team down. I feel bad for a lot ot these players because they don't even realize the coaching staff is letting them down. You're only as strong as your weakest link and the weakest link here besides Jerry is the coaching staff.

Honestly, this was more a breakdown by the players than it was on the coaches particularly on the offensive side. The OL and Witten in particular were really bad in the run game. Our defense just isn't dynamic at all and we do nothing to make teams guess. Our awareness is bad defensively. I think Dak did a good job and should have got the win.

 

[Fla Cowpoke]

So, in your opinion, the coaching isn't too conservative, rather a rookie just didn't progress through all his reads.

The narrative has been all about the poor coaching. This is refreshing.

Thanks. Good stuff.

I think we were having him read one side and given that I think he did a great job of hitting the open man. There are some plays were there was a better option but not knowing his progression it is hard to fault him. There were a few plays where he was late or missed a guy early....to me that is the youth. There were a couple plays I think he predecided before the play where he was going. And then there were so many plays where the OL was like a sieve and he didn't have a real chance to follow his reads.

 

[Fla Cowpoke]

I was pretty ticked about second half playcalling because of the raw numbers of passes called but with exception of one series that was 3 passes and one run, we were forced into so much passing by penalties and if course the situation at the end of the game.

 

[Zman5]

Another thing you notice when watching All22 is how different our pass routes are compare to the Gints. We rarely threaten the deep middle. Gints have someone going the deep middle of the field most of the time.

The long Beckham catch to the side line where he beats OScan was possible because of this. On the thread about BJones, someone blamed Jones for getting there late. The reason he got there late was because there was a Gints receiver running a seam route beating a LB toward the deep middle of the field. Jones had to honor that because Eli would have thrown the ball to that receiver if Jones vacated his spot early to help out OScan. Once Eli sees Jones pause, he throws it to Beckham.

People harp on Dez not being able to beat double teams. One of the big reason Beckham was able to beat the double teams on this plays was because their route combo helped manipulate the Safety (BJones) by design. We need to do the same for WRs.

 

[CowboyGil]

Well, I'm sure seeing an open receiver in a photo is a lot different than finding one in a live game at field level. Plus, it's Dak's first game seeing regular season defensive packages. I'll cut the kid some slack for now.

 

[khiladi]

Dak's FIRST progression is underneath and he is clearly coming over from the side opposite to the route that Beasley is running. That means that he is paying attention to the guy coming from the side opposite Beasley.

With that in mind, it's clear he wasn't even looking at Beasley and the guy was probably far down in his progression. Since when does this team ever target Beasley deep anyways?

And Beasley's man drops off him to take the guy that Dak is going to on his progression. That would also mean he saw something in Dak to make him drop his man.

 

[DandyDon52]

and also what is up with Donnell being able to engage Byron Jones and throw him to the ground 5 yards into the end zone on a passing play? This was the game winner? How was there not a penalty?
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I saw that, and I think the los was the 3, so it was within the 5 yard area.
So maybe that is why no flag.
This was man coverage, and sean lee knocked carr off his coverage of cruz to stay with his guy.
Eli was looking at cruz the whole time.
What they should do, on a play like that is lee take cruz, and carr take his guy, otherwise they have to run into each other or around.

 

[JDSmith]

I saw that, and I think the los was the 3, so it was within the 5 yard area.
So maybe that is why no flag.
This was man coverage, and sean lee knocked carr off his coverage of cruz to stay with his guy.
Eli was looking at cruz the whole time.
What they should do, on a play like that is lee take cruz, and carr take his guy, otherwise they have to run into each other or around.

It doesn't matter if it's within the 5 yard area, the offensive player can't blast the defender before the pass has been completed. 5 yards is the area in which the defender can make contact with the offensive player, but if you allowed the offensive players to initiate contact like that you'd see defenders on the ground all the time - basically any time a defender was close enough an offensive player would take him out, that makes it really easy to complete passes. Imagine we line up Dez and Witten to one side and Witten just dives on the defender and takes him out to allow Dez to run free - would that be legal? That's what you are suggesting.

 

[dallasdave]

What an amazing finish this would have been. Beasley was open immediately and it would have been a pitch and catch score. Worst case scenario Beasley is caught around the 10 and we win on fg.



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Dallas has to start getting the ball to DEZ if they want to win !!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[dallasdave]

They referenced it during the broadcast as well I believe...well designed play by Linehan and Garrett. Dakota didn't see it. That happens...learn from it and keep progressing. I wonder if Dakota had predetermined that Witten was going to be the target.

Oh well...would have been a great finish and given Dakota his 1st 4th quarter comeback win to go along with his 1st pro win. Turn the page and get ready for the Skins playing on a short week.

The four horsemen ride on to another victory !!!

 

[imjunsul]

Yeah, but trying to hit Beasley 40 yards down field is like trying to drop a watermelon out of an airplane and hit a tree. Beasley is TINY....

He's only about a foot smaller than Dez man.. not that tiny!

 

[ufcrules1]

Honestly, this was more a breakdown by the players than it was on the coaches particularly on the offensive side. The OL and Witten in particular were really bad in the run game. Our defense just isn't dynamic at all and we do nothing to make teams guess. Our awareness is bad defensively. I think Dak did a good job and should have got the win.

We do nothing to make teams guess? Whos fault do you think that is? Our players fail every year because they are sabbotaged by the coaching staff.

 

[Donhyphen]

What an amazing finish this would have been. Beasley was open immediately and it would have been a pitch and catch score. Worst case scenario Beasley is caught around the 10 and we win on fg.



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God you annoy the hell out of me... Stupidity...

 

[theebs]

God you annoy the hell out of me... Stupidity...

lol ok then.

remember I am a darwin award winner.

oh and simply don't read anything i post if i am so stupid buddy.

 

[Bigdog]

The incident occurred 33 years ago, when Bill Parcells was a neophyte in the coaching profession. It's too bad there weren't any television cameras around, because it must have been a priceless moment. After all, how often do you see Parcells, a legendary sideline screamer, on the receiving end of a stinging attack? It happened to Parcells at Hastings College in Nebraska, the first stop in his circuitous coaching career. He was only 23, just out of college, but he thought he was hot stuff. Then came the sideline blowup, which had a profound effect on him as a coach. Hastings, an NAIA school in the Nebraska College Conference, was playing Nebraska Wesleyan. Parcells, who coached the defense, had drilled his unit all week in preparation for Wesleyan's bootleg play. Wesleyan ran the bootleg every week, and scored with it every week. But this was going to be different. Parcells wasn't going to let it happen to his defense. Wesleyan got near the Hastings goal line, ran the bootleg and scored a touchdown, sparking a Parcells tirade.

He chewed out his safety, a kid named Jack Giddings, who got caught out of position. Parcells was relentless, yelling at him in front of the whole team. Finally, the head coach, Dean Pryor, stepped in. "Leave the guy alone," Pryor told his young assistant. "But, coach, we worked on the damn play all week," Parcells said. "Well," Pryor said, raising his voice, "you didn't work on it enough because they scored."

I heard of another story when Parcells was berating a player because he got beat for a TD and didn't use the proper technique. I think it was Pryor who came over to Parcells and asked why he was chewing the player out. Parcells replied because " he used the wrong technique." Pryor replied " Did you ever think that maybe you didn't teach him the right way."

 

[fortdick]

Beasley was open but not Dez.

Dez is open