Dak has a larger cap hit than Mahomes!

[America's Cowboy]

Why do you guys keep saying after 2024? Technically you are right coz the final 2 years are voided but at the end of THIS season, Dak will have no more guaranteed money left on his contract ($126M ). Now show me an NFL starting QB playing on a contract with NO guaranteed money.
In other words, UNLESS they add new guaranteed money, this is Dak's last year under his current contract. No way in hell Todd France will let him play in 2024 w/o guaranteed money.

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/dallas-...cott signed a 4,dead cap value of $89,070,000.

Dak already got his guaranteed money. Time for him to help the team out.

 

[thunderpimp91]

Can you imagine the crap we’d be hearing if Dak was signed for 10 years? LMAO. No one cares about the cap hit. He was less than 20 million this year. His detractors want to pay him 49 million this year because they want him gone. After he signs a restructured contract, his cap hit will be negligible. That was always the plan.

I could care less what we'd be hearing, I'm interested what actually would benefit the team. I believe Dak Presoctt can win a championship, I just struggle with the current contract because it gives zero favors to the Cowboys. Over 10 years they can manipulate that cap hit over a long period of time and the AAV will be a bargain halfway through. Dak's 4 year deal never really gave the Cowboys a chance to get ahead, especially after they continue to push money to the back end of it.

The Cowboys may very well restructure his contract again, making his cap hit more of a minor issue for 2023, but then you double down on the issues for 2024/25/26. You're at the point where you either extend Dak at a new AAV that probably breaks the $48MM & $50MM Wilson/Rogers got last year or if you do decide to move on you've basically ruined the benefit of a rookie contract QB as you're paying that rookies salary plus the money in Daks voidable years. Neither option is really a good one at this point.

I just don't love the outlook of certain teams dishing out these record QB contracts in most circumstances (Rogers, Wilson, Murray, Watson. etc), and the constant restructuring I don't view as a plan. It can be a strategic tool, but if you go down that road too many times and something goes south you're screwed. It's the Romo strategy all over again, which ended with Romo retiring earlier than expected, Dak being thrown into the QB role, and even with a 4th round Rookie the Cowboys were still spending a significant amount at the QB position.

 

[USArmyVet]

Kurt Warner broke down film and disagreed. He correctly placed blame on Dak, the WRs, the pass designs/concepts and the playcalling. But, we all know that's too much information for you to understand.

LOL...bringing up Kurt Warner again when it suits you I see; funny how previous to that video you called out Warner for being a Dak hater.....but we all know that being a hypocrite is your thing.

 

[America's Cowboy]

LOL...bringing up Kurt Warner again when it suits you I see; funny how previous to that video you called out Warner for being a Dak hater.....but we all know that being a hypocrite is your thing.

I never said Warner was a Dak hater. Just wanted him to point the good as well as the bad plays, which he soon did. Something you refuse to do.

 

[thunderpimp91]

Dak already got his guaranteed money. Time for him to help the team out.

And this I'd be all for. I know I come across as a complete Dak hater at time, but I truly dislike the contract more than the player. If Dak wants to resign a more team-friendly deal this time around I'll be the first one to jump on the bandwagon. I'm just skeptical it happens that way as Dak and his agent took Jerry to the cleaners on the first deal, and given the current situation it feels like Dak once again holds all the leverage in contract negotiations. A restructure only creates more problems in future years, and moving on from Dak at this point is difficult to do because of the money in his voidable years. Even if a QB you love falls to you in the first round of the draft this year the Cowboys are still paying over $30 Million to the position in 2025, and about $50MM in 2024 once you factor in a rookie contract and Daks existing cap hits.

 

[USArmyVet]

I never said Warner was a Dak hater. Just wanted him to point the good as well as the bad plays, which he soon did. Something you refuse to do.

You trashed Warner's videos when people were posting them but now you embrace him....such a phony.

 

[Stash]

I still bang my head against a wall when I hear people say we HAVE to sign Dak now to free up more money....do these fools not realize that it's only locking us into several more years of futility??? Some of the people pushing for a new deal, are also saying he will never take us anywhere....I am at a loss. It will not hurt us to wait until this time next year to decide....DO NOT rush into something stupid!!!!!!!!

 

[MyFairLady]

I know I come across as a complete Dak hater at time, but I truly dislike the contract more than the player.

In the modern NFL with a salary cap the player and the contract are the same thing. They can not be viewed separately. I loved Dak as a rookie. Fantastic player. Efficient and intelligent both as a player and as a contract. Massive net positive for the team. Dak is now a net negative. Same guy different contract. Different expectations.

 

[MyFairLady]

Dak cap hit for 2025 is already 22 million and that is after his contract expires. People say we need to adopt a more "win now" philosophy. Hate to be the one to break it to you but what you have been seeing the last 2 years is "win now".

 

[StylisticS]

IDK glim........honestly, I don't think it's as easy or automatic as we may think. His salary for 2023 is guaranteed at $31M. Once that's paid, there's only $34M nonguaranteed left on the contract. This is where the extension/restructuring talk can get tricky IMO coz it resets Dak's value. There's your $100M+ question.......what is Dak's current value???? We know he and Todd France won't consider anything below the previous $40M. Suppose Jerry and Stephen are thinking $40-42M and Todd France is thinking $48-50M. See, it's not as simple.....

So what's the best thing to do? Ride this out and not restructure his contract or extend this offseason? If that is the case, then a QB in the draft is not only vital, but he probably needs to be selected as early as day 2.

 

[Stash]

And this I'd be all for. I know I come across as a complete Dak hater at time, but I truly dislike the contract more than the player. If Dak wants to resign a more team-friendly deal this time around I'll be the first one to jump on the bandwagon. I'm just skeptical it happens that way as Dak and his agent took Jerry to the cleaners on the first deal, and given the current situation it feels like Dak once again holds all the leverage in contract negotiations. A restructure only creates more problems in future years, and moving on from Dak at this point is difficult to do because of the money in his voidable years. Even if a QB you love falls to you in the first round of the draft this year the Cowboys are still paying over $30 Million to the position in 2025, and about $50MM in 2024 once you factor in a rookie contract and Daks existing cap hits.

That’s another point that fans like to gloss over.

They matter-of-factly state that ‘the contract was made to be reworked’. Did they ever stop to think that Dak and his agent know that too?

 

[thunderpimp91]

That’s another point that fans like to gloss over.

They matter-of-factly state that ‘the contract was made to be reworked’. Did they ever stop to think that Dak and his agent know that too?

Absolutely and I have no doubt Dak and his agent were the brains behind the 4 year extension model so they could plan on renegotiating again with Dak in his prime years of 30/31 at a higher AAV. Dak got a ton of money up front ($75MM year 1) and the cap hits came later on which only improves his leverage in negotiations to get that down.

Up front money, a shorter deal to get more down the road, later cap hits, and a no trade clause. I just don't see anything that the Cowboys got from this deal because they butchered the process so badly.

 

[Stash]

Absolutely and I have no doubt Dak and his agent were the brains behind the 4 year extension model so they could plan on renegotiating again with Dak in his prime years of 30/31 at a higher AAV. Dak got a ton of money up front ($75MM year 1) and the cap hits came later on which only improves his leverage in negotiations to get that down.

Up front money, a shorter deal to get more down the road, later cap hits, and a no trade clause. I just don't see anything that the Cowboys got from this deal because they butchered the process so badly.

For perspective, Mahomes got $66 million guaranteed at signing on a 10 year deal.

Conversely, Dak Prescott got $95 million guaranteed at signing on a 4 year deal.

Look no further than the bumpkins getting fleeced in negotiating these contracts for why we’re forever having cap problems.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Brock Purdy also had 0 turnovers.......

Which means nothing lol.

 

[USArmyVet]

Which means nothing lol.

Well in a 19-12 game which saw Dak's 2 INT's as the difference in a win or loss I would think 0 turnovers by Purdy meant a lot.

 

[KJJ]

Factoring in games missed Romo actually only played 8-1/2 seasons.

Factoring in the games Dak missed he only played 6 seasons.

 

[USArmyVet]

Factoring in the games Dak missed he only played 6 seasons.

Correct....and he is another Romo.

 

[KJJ]

Correct....and he is another Romo.

Romo was a very good QB and so is Dak. Both have very good regular season winning percentages better than most QBs, but the playoffs have been a problem mainly because we haven’t had good enough teams. If some fans want to cry because we don’t have a Mahomes good luck finding a QB of that quality. The Cowboys have struck gold twice at QB with Staubach and Troy Aikman.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Well in a 19-12 game which saw Dak's 2 INT's as the difference in a win or loss I would think 0 turnovers by Purdy meant a lot.

So if he scored 4 touchdowns and two picks they would’ve lost?

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Correct....and he is another Romo.

You mean he’s a guy who couldn’t win without a championship roster? Nearly every guy in the league lol.