Dak has "It"

Alexander

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Oh give me a break. That's excuse making for a QB that simply isn't good enough. All of a sudden when the real talent isn't on the field as the make up to his acne, the coaches are forcing Prescott to play poorly.

Not saying it is a "good enough" excuse.

But it is very clear to me at least that this staff is not effective at getting the best of out of its QBs and it does have a restrictive element to it if conditions are not optimal. You can't just have three very different QBs experience the same sort of mediocrity and not establish some sort of connection. It is apparent from the loss of Romo that he covered up a lot of warts and probably provided more tweaks to this scheme than any of us imagined.

Prescott is operating under the same system run by the same people minus the talent and attention draw of Elliott. This is not a system like others in the league that can just plug in a QB and execute. Aside from some read option variance, it is not that much different than what we ran with Romo. Prescott is not cut out for it, he does not have the arm talent and especially the diagnostic skill to make it run at a high level.

If Prescott is going to fulfill the expectations set last year, he is going to require a staff that has an ability to evolve the scheme. Garrett and Co. do not strike me as especially imaginative or flexible.
 

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Dak beat teams with winning records last year: Packers, Steelers, Ravens, Commanders, Vikings, Buccaneers, Lions.

At the time they played them, the Ravens and Buccaneers had top five defenses (Baltimore was number one in November 2016).
The Cowboys beat teams with Dak playing QB.
Just clearing that up.

Same thing now. The Cowboys are losing, not just Dak.
 

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Isn't "It" an evil clown (ie Jerry Jones) that devours and destroys young promising lives (ie Witten, Romo, Bailey, Dak, etc)?
 

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How many championships did that bring us? Yeah Romo's failures at the time were all on him, he was crucified on a weekly basis because for all his heroics, there was that interceptions or fumble at the worst time.

Presently all of that is forgotten, he had a bad defense, a bad oline. Well Dak's defense is farr would, but that doesn't seem to matter. His pro bowl line is getting him sacked at an alarming rate.

So what if we go 8-8, that should make all of you happy, that's Romo level football!
Daks defense is worse than 32nd?:huh:

Im not one piling on Dak,btw.

But come on, the LOW bar for Romo-led teams was 8-8.
Never lower. People keep acting like 8-8 was the norm.
It was way higher.

78-49. Is closer to a 10-6 average
 
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Interesting set of observations from Bucky Brooks:

 

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Interesting set of observations from Bucky Brooks:


Im not really referring to this,but in general, Brooks has come a long way.
He can break down most position groups very well.
He was on the radio yeserday with his assessments of Dallas, and that too impressed me.
Not just knee-jerk stuff,but well thought-out
 

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Dak beat teams with winning records last year: Packers, Steelers, Ravens, Commanders, Vikings, Buccaneers, Lions.

At the time they played them, the Ravens and Buccaneers had top five defenses (Baltimore was number one in November 2016).
Young QB don't normally play very well against the best pass defenses. The Ravens (13th in DPR last year) and Bucs (18th) weren't among the best, although Dak was pretty good against the Bengals (5th) and Vikings (4th) last year. Not so much in the two games against the Giants (2nd).

Prescott
vs. Top 5 Pass Defenses (6 games)
110 of 192 (57%) 1155 yd (6.0 ypa) 6 td 6 int 72.3

vs. #6-32 Pass Defenses (22.5 games)
446 of 655 (68%) 5116 yd (7.8 ypa) 36 td 8 int 104.6

The trend has continued in his 2nd season, with a decent game against the Rams (4th) and then these last two disasters vs. Philly (5th) and the Chargers (6th).
 

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Dak has "It"

Mass quantities of Jerry's money
 

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How many championships did that bring us? Yeah Romo's failures at the time were all on him, he was crucified on a weekly basis because for all his heroics, there was that interceptions or fumble at the worst time.

Presently all of that is forgotten, he had a bad defense, a bad oline. Well Dak's defense is farr would, but that doesn't seem to matter. His pro bowl line is getting him sacked at an alarming rate.

So what if we go 8-8, that should make all of you happy, that's Romo level football!

You do realize that Romo wasn’t allowed in game planning until 2013, when he got the new contract right?

You do realize Dak has been working not with Garrett, a ‘head coach in training’ and play-caller with no experience, but Linehan from the get go?

You do realize by the time all was said and done with Garrett, Dallas was pretty much last in running in 2012, none of which is applicable to Dak right?
 
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Not saying it is a "good enough" excuse.

But it is very clear to me at least that this staff is not effective at getting the best of out of its QBs and it does have a restrictive element to it if conditions are not optimal. You can't just have three very different QBs experience the same sort of mediocrity and not establish some sort of connection. It is apparent from the loss of Romo that he covered up a lot of warts and probably provided more tweaks to this scheme than any of us imagined.

Prescott is operating under the same system run by the same people minus the talent and attention draw of Elliott. This is not a system like others in the league that can just plug in a QB and execute. Aside from some read option variance, it is not that much different than what we ran with Romo. Prescott is not cut out for it, he does not have the arm talent and especially the diagnostic skill to make it run at a high level.

If Prescott is going to fulfill the expectations set last year, he is going to require a staff that has an ability to evolve the scheme. Garrett and Co. do not strike me as especially imaginative or flexible.

Excellent post and spot on.
 

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Ridiculous. 4th round picks still on their rookie contracts aren't earning much. If you want to gripe about players stealing Jones' money, there a plenty of others you can accuse
Question is. Who will steal his money next?
 

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Question is. Who will steal his money next?
Bryant is already stealing it.

I guess we can count on Demarcus Lawrence being next after he regresses back to the mean after he gets his this offseason.
 

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Young QB don't normally play very well against the best pass defenses. The Ravens (13th in DPR last year) and Bucs (18th) weren't among the best, although Dak was pretty good against the Bengals (5th) and Vikings (4th) last year. Not so much in the two games against the Giants (2nd).

Prescott
vs. Top 5 Pass Defenses (6 games)
110 of 192 (57%) 1155 yd (6.0 ypa) 6 td 6 int 72.3

vs. #6-32 Pass Defenses (22.5 games)
446 of 655 (68%) 5116 yd (7.8 ypa) 36 td 8 int 104.6

The trend has continued in his 2nd season, with a decent game against the Rams (4th) and then these last two disasters vs. Philly (5th) and the Chargers (6th).


I will keep posting this until you guys understand that Zeke made the passing game.
With Zeke in the offense, we constantly had 3rd and short ( look up last years stats) therefore, Dak had easy , scripted, wide open dump offs ( high completion percentage) .
You guys are acting as if Dak put on a passing clinic last year wich is just not the case. Phillip Rivers showed us what a good QB does. All Dak did was take advantage of defenses selling out to stop Zeke on 3rd and short situations ( Thus, Beasley had a career year) through play actions and bootlegs. Even this year, his TD passes have mostly been short throws (13 of 16 TD passes were 20 yards or less). Those numbers show a QB that NEEDS an elite running game.. open your eyes people. You all know I'm right.
 

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Not saying it is a "good enough" excuse.

But it is very clear to me at least that this staff is not effective at getting the best of out of its QBs and it does have a restrictive element to it if conditions are not optimal. You can't just have three very different QBs experience the same sort of mediocrity and not establish some sort of connection. It is apparent from the loss of Romo that he covered up a lot of warts and probably provided more tweaks to this scheme than any of us imagined.

Prescott is operating under the same system run by the same people minus the talent and attention draw of Elliott. This is not a system like others in the league that can just plug in a QB and execute. Aside from some read option variance, it is not that much different than what we ran with Romo. Prescott is not cut out for it, he does not have the arm talent and especially the diagnostic skill to make it run at a high level.

If Prescott is going to fulfill the expectations set last year, he is going to require a staff that has an ability to evolve the scheme. Garrett and Co. do not strike me as especially imaginative or flexible.

This is the same staff that won 13 games last year and the 1 seed and had everybody conned that he was an MVP candidate. The difference is this year he's been asked to do more out of necessity and we see that he can't.

This isn't a coaching staff created problem. It's a front office problem. He shouldn't be here. He shouldn't be our future at the position.

C'mon, folks. We are hitching our wagon to a quarterback that struggles throwing the football. Pause for a moment and let that sink in.
 

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I will keep posting this until you guys understand that Zeke made the passing game.
With Zeke in the offense, we constantly had 3rd and short ( look up last years stats) therefore, Dak had easy , scripted, wide open dump offs ( high completion percentage) .
You guys are acting as if Dak put on a passing clinic last year wich is just not the case. Phillip Rivers showed us what a good QB does. All Dak did was take advantage of defenses selling out to stop Zeke on 3rd and short situations ( Thus, Beasley had a career year) through play actions and bootlegs. Even this year, his TD passes have mostly been short throws (13 of 16 TD passes were 20 yards or less). Those numbers show a QB that NEEDS an elite running game.. open your eyes people. You all know I'm right.

100% Zeke is a great 1st down Back , making it 2nd and short like no other . Defenses have to play 2nd and short a hell a lot different then 3rd and 5 + . Not sure how people miss or dismiss this . With short yardage Ds have to worry about Zeke , Dak running and everyone else you have to leave someone open.
 

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I will keep posting this until you guys understand that Zeke made the passing game.
With Zeke in the offense, we constantly had 3rd and short ( look up last years stats) therefore, Dak had easy , scripted, wide open dump offs ( high completion percentage) .
You guys are acting as if Dak put on a passing clinic last year wich is just not the case. Phillip Rivers showed us what a good QB does. All Dak did was take advantage of defenses selling out to stop Zeke on 3rd and short situations ( Thus, Beasley had a career year) through play actions and bootlegs. Even this year, his TD passes have mostly been short throws (13 of 16 TD passes were 20 yards or less). Those numbers show a QB that NEEDS an elite running game.. open your eyes people. You all know I'm right.

But ...

- it's the coaches holding him down!
- you'll have to see him in a new scheme, reserve judgement!
- he's hearing footsteps out there after Atlanta!!!!
- he's only in his second year, how about young Romo!
- stats say this and that, how about you start believing!
- in the NFL QBs throw to a spot, and he's on the money!
- receivers are not open, no deep threat to connect with!
- just replace Dez and this offense flourishes again!
- you have to reward him with new weapons!
- what you just said tells me you're not a true fan!

"Dak will be fine".
 
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