Dak is a mental choker!

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I respect your opinion on that, however.... if we get rid of Dak because you feel he's not helping our team win then we should get rid of the other highly paid people who aren't helping our team win as well, correct?

Dak isn't elite but he is still a very good quarterback. It's probably hard to get any better with shaky blocking and a bottom of the league running game. There aren't too many quarterbacks in the NFL who would be able to win with this offense, behind this line and this bland offense with prehistoric formations and zero creativity.
Thrown in a defense last in rushing defense and bottom tier in scoring defense . I’m kinda surprised we have 3 wins .
 

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Oof that’s gotta sting. Jerry signed that check lol and he’s only gotten embarrassed
Good!
I hope his ego gets kicked in the b@lls every day he wakes up and reads the news or watches TV!
He deserves it for overpaying for a below average QB and a mediocre WR!
Suck it Jerry!
 

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Here's this:

MBreezy: Is Dak Prescott Really This Bad?

The Dallas Cowboys Might be in Trouble for the next 5 years with Dak Prescott as their QB.

 

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Thrown in a defense last in rushing defense and bottom tier in scoring defense . I’m kinda surprised we have 3 wins .
When you're fitting in over $90m of CAP on a QB and WR1 you're going to struggle in some area of the roster. We're set up to be Offensive heavy, but we cant execute any shoot-out as that just doesnt play to Dak's attributes.
 

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I respect your opinion on that, however.... if we get rid of Dak because you feel he's not helping our team win then we should get rid of the other highly paid people who aren't helping our team win as well, correct?

Dak isn't elite but he is still a very good quarterback. It's probably hard to get any better with shaky blocking and a bottom of the league running game. There aren't too many quarterbacks in the NFL who would be able to win with this offense, behind this line and this bland offense with prehistoric formations and zero creativity.
Yep, this is the total mess of extending a QB to top money (especially over 4 years), when he admittedly needs a full offensive compliment. We can label him with whichever adjective you choose......the reality is that he took top money ON THE 4 YEARS, he must of realized that he'd need to step up in responsibility and play to the contract.

The question is.......if our offense is so poor this year (Tyron the only difference???) , was last year an an aberration built on an easy schedule rather than elite QB play?

If our Offense is so poor ......why spend $60m on a QB that struggles without help. May as well of seen his play in 2024 and pivoted to a lesser QB and draft, take the hit (of a lesser QB) and build from the trenches.
 

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Here is one of the looks Dak had on all game long from the 1st quarter through the end of the game. Dude was mentally choked out all game long. You could see he was playing scared and unsure of himself. Just going through the motions. No killer instinct or confidence whatsoever. :mad:

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Do you...do you think you just discovered this or something? Look at you. Tryin to fit in. What's next, you gonna point out he played the worst pass defense schedule in the league the year he got his first all pro bid?

"Hey guys, I'm just like you now!"

Sad.
 

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Yep, this is the total mess of extending a QB to top money (especially over 4 years), when he admittedly needs a full offensive compliment. We can label him with whichever adjective you choose......the reality is that he took top money ON THE 4 YEARS, he must of realized that he'd need to step up in responsibility and play to the contract.

The question is.......if our offense is so poor this year (Tyron the only difference???) , was last year an an aberration built on an easy schedule rather than elite QB play?

If our Offense is so poor ......why spend $60m on a QB that struggles without help. May as well of seen his play in 2024 and pivoted to a lesser QB and draft, take the hit (of a lesser QB) and build from the trenches.

Cap is important, but there are other teams who have highly paid max contracts on the books.... they seem to do pretty good manipulating the cap, so why can't we?

With that said, do you see the creative playcalling and creative formations some of these offensive coordinators are doing around the league? Offensive coordinators don't fall under the cap. You can't tell me offensive creativeness doesn't matter in the league.

You also mentioned, what Dak can't do "without weapons around him". Ok that's fair... but please give me a list of quarterbacks who have had any form of success WITHOUT weapons around them. There has not been a SINGLE quarterback in NFL history who has done anything of significance without weapons around them.

This is called a TEAM game for a reason. Again, Dak isn't elite but it's amazing that other 1st and 2nd round quarterbacks throughout history get all kinds of excuses as to why they haven't succeeded like, "being drafted by a bad team", "bad coaching", "bad playcalling".

But when Dak, a 4th round pick who have outplayed a lot of other quarterbacks selected higher than him is at the helm, he's expected to do things OTHER quarterbacks get excuses for. Dak isn't an elite quarterback. Dak is a pretty good quarterback. But the double standards and hypocrisy is pretty sad.

Lastly... i find this whole "easy schedule success" as the biggest pile of bull**** ever. If that's the case....

There is a team every year that plays against the "weakest schedule". Why haven't the quarterbacks of those "weakest schedule teams" been able to put up an All-Pro and MVP candidate season? You claim that's the only reason Dak shined last year correct?

Well if the weakest schedule guarantees the quarterback of that said team and All-Pro and MVP candidate season.... why haven't we seen other quarterbacks benefit from this?? I'll respectfully wait for an answer i definitely know I won't receive....
 

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It's not Dak's fault Turpin can't catch
Turpin has some responsibility on that one vertical pass but he is a very small receiver covered by two much taller receivers and that ball hung in the air like on a clothesline. If you recall Dak previously threw a similar pass to Turpin that was easily broken up by defenders. When Dak line drives or has more zip on a long pass to Turpin he usually catches it when he is more open. I think Dak overreacts into bad decisions and it's a confidence thing based on the overall state of the offense and defense.
 
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I respect your opinion on that, however.... if we get rid of Dak because you feel he's not helping our team win then we should get rid of the other highly paid people who aren't helping our team win as well, correct?

Dak isn't elite but he is still a very good quarterback. It's probably hard to get any better with shaky blocking and a bottom of the league running game. There aren't too many quarterbacks in the NFL who would be able to win with this offense, behind this line and this bland offense with prehistoric formations and zero creativity.
Dak has 5 TDs and 5 turnovers in our 3 wins this season and you’re on here acting like there aren’t many QBs that could have us at 3 wins right now?

Lolololololololololololololololol
 

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When you're fitting in over $90m of CAP on a QB and WR1 you're going to struggle in some area of the roster. We're set up to be Offensive heavy, but we cant execute any shoot-out as that just doesnt play to Dak's attributes.
Then our ownership has completely mismanaged if our QB is dependent on a stronger rushing game and more offensive weapons.

And just to be clear while 90 million is their average yearly contracts they aren’t the actual cap hits. There was enough cap space and draft capital to pursue some supporting cast. They just chose not to.
 

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Yep, this is the total mess of extending a QB to top money (especially over 4 years), when he admittedly needs a full offensive compliment. We can label him with whichever adjective you choose......the reality is that he took top money ON THE 4 YEARS, he must of realized that he'd need to step up in responsibility and play to the contract.

The question is.......if our offense is so poor this year (Tyron the only difference???) , was last year an an aberration built on an easy schedule rather than elite QB play?

If our Offense is so poor ......why spend $60m on a QB that struggles without help. May as well of seen his play in 2024 and pivoted to a lesser QB and draft, take the hit (of a lesser QB) and build from the trenches.
That’s actually a better question for our ownership as it’s not the player’s responsibility to balance the budget nor build the team. It would appear the elephant in the room is the one who thought our QB is better than the rest of us think.
 

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Nope. Y'all start the insults. I simply defend myself.
Someone calling what you said should happen to Dak wrong is not an insult.

Attacking someone with comments like "Jealous little 92G" and "Probably those funky nerds who sat in the opposing stands" are personal attacks. Picking up where I left off in this thread this morning, I see those coming from you thus far. (maybe I missed it, or that will change as I read further). Either way, you started down this path.

You did this when you were defending Dak; ironically, you are now doing it when you are bashing Dak. And honestly, some of what you are seeing is directly related to that.

Not trying to start anything, just pointing out what I am reading. You do you of course.
 
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Then our ownership has completely mismanaged if our QB is dependent on a stronger rushing game and more offensive weapons.

And just to be clear while 90 million is their average yearly contracts they aren’t the actual cap hits. There was enough cap space and draft capital to pursue some supporting cast. They just chose not to.
They choose not to, because:
a) they have to account for his $40m, they restructured from his last contract ...... which meant we maxed out the credit card, which benefitted Dak, with which he couldn't perform.
b) this year was a partial reset the CAP, however, Daks big hits come 2025-27. This team is mediocre....don't waste money on this 2025 side, in a vain hope Dak can falter in the play-offs again.
c) what do we spend on....DAK NEEDS A COMPLETE TEAM.
 

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They choose not to, because:
a) they have to account for his $40m, they restructured from his last contract ...... which meant we maxed out the credit card, which benefitted Dak, with which he couldn't perform.
b) this year was a partial reset the CAP, however, Daks big hits come 2025-27. This team is mediocre....don't waste money on this 2025 side, in a vain hope Dak can falter in the play-offs again.
c) what do we spend on....DAK NEEDS A COMPLETE TEAM.
Again whose fault is that ?

But beyond once the poor decision was made we could have resigned him earlier allowing more Cap wiggle room. And huge weaknesses at RB could have been addressed in draft.
 

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Then our ownership has completely mismanaged if our QB is dependent on a stronger rushing game and more offensive weapons.

And just to be clear while 90 million is their average yearly contracts they aren’t the actual cap hits. There was enough cap space and draft capital to pursue some supporting cast. They just chose not to.
Oh and just go and look at what we need next year....
DE
DT
CB
RB
WR2
MLB
G
....and that's just to cover the starters we're losing.
As per free agency, it's not a we want and they sign.....Henry isn't necessarily coming to us because he lives close, maybe he prefers the chances with the Ravens (at $15 over the two years). Maybe we could of challenged, but look at what we're missing.....WE NEED TO GET VALUE OUT OF WHAT WE'VE GOT....starting with Dak and his $60M PER (however you want to gaslight the amount per year).
 

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A lot of good fans have spent alot of time defending cowboys quarterbacks since Aikman retired.

It's been a monumental waste of time and energy

"Jerry; can we draft a quarterback higher than the 4th round more than once a quarter century?"

No premium on qbs or DTs with this FO
 

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Oh and just go and look at what we need next year....
DE
DT
CB
RB
WR2
MLB
G
....and that's just to cover the starters we're losing.
As per free agency, it's not a we want and they sign.....Henry isn't necessarily coming to us because he lives close, maybe he prefers the chances with the Ravens (at $15 over the two years). Maybe we could have challenged, but look at what we're missing.....WE NEED TO GET VALUE OUT OF WHAT WE'VE GOT....starting with Dak and his $60M PER (however you want to gaslight the amount per year).
There is no value in resigning our QB. A complete mismanagement .

And our 5th ranked 2023 scoring defense would have appeared to be enough. Injuries aren’t an excuse but they are a factor.

Not addressing RB in draft was another huge mismanagement.

A team which is already limited by the initial poor decision isn’t allowed to continue making other poor decisions along with trying to overcome key injuries.
 

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Jerry's management and Dak's inability to play to anywhere near his contract....Dak is one of the main reasons why Jerry needs to be moved on.
It was mismanaged 4 and 5 years ago as well.

Unfortunately that’s part of the gig here in Dallas. Is trying to overcome poor ownership. And Jethro isn’t going anywhere.

So now once we accept our handicaps how do we build around best we can with means we have .
 
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