Dak is Delusional

[CATCH17]

Dak needs to go to a young talented roster with no big contracts on it.

 

[Brooksey]

WTH are you talking about? Have you watched camp? Have you watched reports? Have you listened to anyone? In 10 days Lance has had one good two minute drill, and less than a handful of good throws. Some have said he’s the worst player at any position on the field. Others have said they couldn’t trade him for a 7th because of how bad he’s been. Y’all never stop do you?

That's not true, go back a few pages in the thread there's plenty of highlights.

 

[JoeKing]

Lance is a free agent after this season, just like Dak.

Serious question, why should Lance not ask for Jordon Love money if he indeed is going to be the starter moving forward???

Love played exactly 1 season for the Packers before they handed him $55 a year..........If that is the market, why would Lance sign a long-term contract for anything less than that himself???

Love proved his value to the Packers, Lance has not done that for the Cowboys or any team for that matter. He will resign for significantly less.

 

[JoeKing]

#Lance2024

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#Lance2025

 

[coult44]

That's not true, go back a few pages in the thread there's plenty of highlights.

Most from one two minute drill session.
The talk of camp has been about how bad he’s been:

 

[Brooksey]

Most from one two minute drill session.
The talk of camp has been about how bad he’s been:

Consider the source: These are Pro Dak 60M/year people.
The OC coach said he's having a good camp, making some plays, making some mistakes but learning the system.

Let's see what he does in the pre-season games.

 

[DandyDon52]

What demand has Dak made for his salary? did i miss this? Now if your saying Dak is delusional for thinking he will get big monay in FA and should sign a low deal with the Cowboys now, then that would be an opinion we could actually put to the test this off season...no one knows what or even if Dak has aksed for with the Cowboys.

yes they dont give us any details on offers made , or dak wants etc. I find that a little odd, why keep that secret??
but dak has refused the offers made to him, that is for sure, we just dont know what the offers were lol.

also after the last offer there was no response from daks side for over a week, so that insinuates that they didnt offer anything close to what
dak wants.
It isnt just apy, it is G $, and trade clause, $ up front etc etc.
So last I heard the jones boys said they were waiting on dak to respond.

 

[DandyDon52]

He can get more. If Dak was happy with more as in 55M-57M he would be signed IMO. They made him an offer two weeks ago, doubt is was lower.
He said he has an obligation to his NFL brotherhood to maximize the contract, not an obligation to win for his team mates or Cowboys fans. Many think he wants 60M +/year.

Tom Brady took less than other QB's and has 7 rings, but Dak needs to take care of his brotherhood.

dak plays for the money ! he doesnt care about playoffs etc. All 3 of the dallas stars, their focus is on that bag, and how big can it be.
None of them are team players or care about championships.]
Trade all 3 and start over!

 

[FVSTONE]

Dak is getting high on his own supply.
He's under the illusion or delusion that he is an Elite QB.
He doesn't understand or refuses to understand that Jerry can't and doesn't want to lock up the cap for a QB that has failed to produce any playoff success.
If he signs him to a long term deal not only will it affect the ability to sign or resign players, it will be a disaster too if the team doesn't have any playoff sucess this season.
The fans will be ready to move on from him and resent Dak and Jerry for doing the deal.
Dak isn't a Force Multiplier type QB where he helps elevate the talent around him. He requires superior talent around him to succeed.
Having Dak at such a high cap rate will hurt in getting the talent necessary to help him succeed. So Jerry doesn't want to commit himself to Dak and continue to be a mid level team. He will likely want to go the route of acquiring and keeping superior talent while having a QB who doesn't eat up so much cap space and could possibly give you the same or better results than Dak.

Well, we all know now why Prescot isn't going to give the Cowboys any hometown breaks on a MEGA LOTTO contract, he's holding out for a top dollar contract for other QBs in the league and for future QBs who come into the league. He isn't in this for playoff experience or SB trophies, he's not a team guy, he's a greedy, overpaid, over hyped, less than mediocre stiff who wants to be known as the guy who gave it his all to jack-up QB salaries for all NFL QBs deserving or not. JJ needs to take back the edge in this standoff and announce that the Boys are going with Rush and Lance as their two headed QB, and that Prescot will be a 3rd string QB as his time with the Cowboys comes to an end. Prescot and his agents will go ballistic demand a trade and the Cowboys can listen to possible offers, it's a win-win for the Cowboys because they won't be stuck with this greedy, overpaid, over hyped, less than mediocre stiff after this year. Sure, they're going to take a $40 million dollar hit against the cap in 2025, but it's better than paying Prescot $60, 70 or 80 million a year for the next 5 or 6 years when he's older and lousier than he is today .............................

 

[KingCorcoran]

Well, we all know now why Prescot isn't going to give the Cowboys any hometown breaks on a MEGA LOTTO contract, he's holding out for a top dollar contract for other QBs in the league and for future QBs who come into the league. He isn't in this for playoff experience or SB trophies, he's not a team guy, he's a greedy, overpaid, over hyped, less than mediocre stiff who wants to be known as the guy who gave it his all to jack-up QB salaries for all NFL QBs deserving or not. JJ needs to take back the edge in this standoff and announce that the Boys are going with Rush and Lance as their two headed QB, and that Prescot will be a 3rd string QB as his time with the Cowboys comes to an end. Prescot and his agents will go ballistic demand a trade and the Cowboys can listen to possible offers, it's a win-win for the Cowboys because they won't be stuck with this greedy, overpaid, over hyped, less than mediocre stiff after this year. Sure, they're going to take a $40 million dollar hit against the cap in 2025, but it's better than paying Prescot $60, 70 or 80 million a year for the next 5 or 6 years when he's older and lousier than he is today .............................

The Cowboys will be “lousier” than they are today. What an ignorant scenario. You’re suggesting nonsense even an idiot like Jerry Jones wouldn’t consider. Dak Prescott may not have beat Green Bay, but he’s going to beat some NFL owner out of a contract north of $55 million per season. When it comes to his next contract Dak is going to win, and he’s going to win huge. Get over it. He’ll likely agree to somewhere between $55 & $60 million with some team. But if he signs with the Dallas Cowboys it will be for a minimum of $60 million. Jerry Jones is messing with the wrong player in Dak’s case, and with the wrong agent in Todd France’s case. Ryan Tannehill will start a regular season game for the Cowboys before Rush or Lance ever will. Cowboys fans need to stop with the Rush/Lance alternative. They are nowhere near Prescott’s ability as an NFL quarterback. To suggest either one be the Cowboys’ QB1 is colossally stupid.

 

[conner01]

Dak is getting high on his own supply.
He's under the illusion or delusion that he is an Elite QB.
He doesn't understand or refuses to understand that Jerry can't and doesn't want to lock up the cap for a QB that has failed to produce any playoff success.
If he signs him to a long term deal not only will it affect the ability to sign or resign players, it will be a disaster too if the team doesn't have any playoff sucess this season.
The fans will be ready to move on from him and resent Dak and Jerry for doing the deal.
Dak isn't a Force Multiplier type QB where he helps elevate the talent around him. He requires superior talent around him to succeed.
Having Dak at such a high cap rate will hurt in getting the talent necessary to help him succeed. So Jerry doesn't want to commit himself to Dak and continue to be a mid level team. He will likely want to go the route of acquiring and keeping superior talent while having a QB who doesn't eat up so much cap space and could possibly give you the same or better results than Dak.

He knows what the GM’s know all over the league. Dak is in the top 10 or so of the league at his position and that’s gonna get him a big payday and the terms he wants

 

[RobbieRob]

Dak is getting high on his own supply.
He's under the illusion or delusion that he is an Elite QB.
He doesn't understand or refuses to understand that Jerry can't and doesn't want to lock up the cap for a QB that has failed to produce any playoff success.
If he signs him to a long term deal not only will it affect the ability to sign or resign players, it will be a disaster too if the team doesn't have any playoff sucess this season.
The fans will be ready to move on from him and resent Dak and Jerry for doing the deal.
Dak isn't a Force Multiplier type QB where he helps elevate the talent around him. He requires superior talent around him to succeed.
Having Dak at such a high cap rate will hurt in getting the talent necessary to help him succeed. So Jerry doesn't want to commit himself to Dak and continue to be a mid level team. He will likely want to go the route of acquiring and keeping superior talent while having a QB who doesn't eat up so much cap space and could possibly give you the same or better results than Dak.

Well said, and Well put, I strongly agree I have always been against paying someone big bucks for no return. Smith held out when his contract came up and Jerry found out the hard way. Smith, Aikman, Irving produced hardware. We had bragging rights in the 90s.

 

[GINeric]

I'm a Dak hater.

But I understand that he will reset the market when he signs.

It won't be in Dallas, thankfully, but there will be a team (probably Vegas or Giants) that will be dumb enough to reset the market for him.

He's not elite. He's not even very good. That will become clear when he leaves Dallas.

We all know he isn't elite, but.....

How does a quarterback who isn't "very good" be top 10 every year, become an All-Pro AND an MVP candidate the same year that his team has a weak running game to help the offense out?

How does a quarterback who isn't "very good" get placed as the 7th best quarterback in the league and the 3rd best quarterback in the NFC by coaches, GMs and scouts league wide?

How does a quarterback who isn't very good get placed as the 16th best player out of 100 selected by other NFL players league wide?

Can you give me any other All-Pro, MVP candidate, top 10 quarterbacks who aren't "very good" and accomplished these things? What's their names?

 

[Jfconrow]

Regardless of what you think about Dak, Dallas is setting the team up for the future if they move on.

1. Draft to build the OL. Any new QB and RB will need a solid line to be successful.

2. Don’t give Dak too much help, maybe without a RB stud they won’t win too many close games. They probably want to resign Ceedee, he’s young enough the next QB could use him too.

3. Let the HC play out his final year then have the new guy pick his QB.

4. Lance is the scapegoat for next year, go with him and a new coach. If Lance wants too much to be the starter let him walk and go with Rush. That’s the best you can do to Tank and if they don’t get a QB after this year then Lance might land a top 5 pick the year after.

5. We’ll know more after the end of the season but if they can’t get a solid first round QB, I look to trade for next years 1st and make sure you get one after the Tank season.

This is just if they don’t resign Dak, which probably means 2 or 3 down years but the OL and defense will be strong so they could come back after next year. Really no one will notice because new QB, new HC, two 1st the year after….it would actually be an exciting start over.

 

[ClintDagger]

I don’t know that Dak is delusional. It’s a negotiation and both sides expect the other to blink. My opinion is that Dak is probably just as afraid to leave Dallas as Jerry is afraid to roll the dice and move on from Dak.

 

[J_Allen]

I hope that's the case but since Jerry makes all the football decisions here, we've seen all the quarterbacks he's selected post Troy Aikman. He doesn't know what he's doing in general, but especially at quarterback.

 

[Cowboys5217]

We all know he isn't elite, but.....

How does a quarterback who isn't "very good" be top 10 every year, become an All-Pro AND an MVP candidate the same year that his team has a weak running game to help the offense out?

How does a quarterback who isn't "very good" get placed as the 7th best quarterback in the league and the 3rd best quarterback in the NFC by coaches, GMs and scouts league wide?

How does a quarterback who isn't very good get placed as the 16th best player out of 100 selected by other NFL players league wide?

Can you give me any other All-Pro, MVP candidate, top 10 quarterbacks who aren't "very good" and accomplished these things? What's their names?

He's the worst playoff QB in NFL history. He can't handle pressure at all, and can only put up his stats against bottom feeders and when already getting blown out like the last GB game.

 

[KingCorcoran]

He's the worst playoff QB in NFL history. He can't handle pressure at all, and can only put up his stats against bottom feeders and when already getting blown out like the last GB game.

Unfortunately Dak’s a better NFL quarterback than Jerry Jones is a NFL general manager. I think Cowboys fans would be excited if Jerry had a bonafide plan at quarterback that did not include Dak Prescott. He doesn’t. Hence the impasse in contract negotiations.

 

[J_Allen]

He's the worst playoff QB in NFL history. He can't handle pressure at all, and can only put up his stats against bottom feeders and when already getting blown out like the last GB game.

He really starts playing well when the game's out of reach. It's ridiculous. That's where a lot of his Stats come from. And then people look at them and say "look he's got better stats than Patrick Mahomes!!!"

No, those are against losing teams or once the game's over and he comes out of his shell.

Why did you stop throwing in a triple coverage once they started blowing us out, Dak?

 

[PA Cowboy Fan]

He really starts playing well when the game's out of reach. It's ridiculous. That's where a lot of his Stats come from. And then people look at them and say "look he's got better stats than Patrick Mahomes!!!"

No, those are against losing teams or once the game's over and he comes out of his shell.

Why did you stop throwing in a triple coverage once they started blowing us out, Dak?

Because the pressure's not on him any more. he can play loose.