Dak is not a smart player

NotForLong

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You're good......yep I came up with Air Coryell Jr label (pass-happy)......I rip him with the predicatability. I've praised him, also (believe it or not). But I hold him accountable for the offense issues.....he is the OC. McCarthy is at the top of responsibility, without question, but KMoore just don't inherit immunity nor unaccountability. I don't hate him.......I hate the performance that is displayed.......just like we do with the players.
I will liken it to this:

About 8 years ago I was out of work and played Madden constantly. . . that year they had an auction where you could bid on Players with different ratings . . (There may be 3 different versions of the same player with different ratings) . . . 99 being the highest and you could also buy packs to build your team

That year I was able to build a team full of 99 all across the board . . . Needless to say I was pretty much unbeatable that year.

One time I allowed my 7 year old nephew to use my team . . . I helped him with the play calling and coached him up but no matter what I did to help him

He simply could not comprehend the game . . . He would throw it onto coverage and totally inaccurate . . . Needless to say He would get stomped

Execution is key. . . The stats prove that Kellan is valuable and when the QB devolves into a Sheet Show there is no one that can save him

You can't blame the OC when Dak has a melt down (Kellen can't take the controller out of his hands) . . . But inversely you must praise Kellen when Dak succeeds because we are all aware how fast the gameplan can go to hell when Dak is confused

Sadly some people can not bring themselves to see this. . . . Which is evident by the fact that The Dak Fan Boys throw anyone and everyone under the bus on Sunday Night . . . They can never understand Why Dak is so great some days and piss poor on the other days.

Its because Kellen elevates him but Poor Kellen can only do so much
 

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Have to admit...I was a LITTLE surprised he threw a should-have-been interception...then next play the exact same pass for an interception.

That is...NOT smart.
The OC calls a play and the CB just stood there and almost intercepted it. So the OC calls another play where the CB can just stand there again...pick 6.

The OC is suppose to call plays that beat the defense, not feed directly into the defense. Like I've said before Dak is the type of QB that is going to run the pass play that's called or switch to a run. Cooper had to say, "This is crazy" just to get Dak to change the play call one time. Where as Romo would change any play he didn't like. Dak is a system QB.
 

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Moore has been tweaking the offense every year to cater to this mediocrity. All the Dak-Stan’s when Rush was QB was saying the “play calling” was different and they need Dak in this offense. Now we are back to “it’s Moore’s fault”.
This is so true but they can't see the inconsistencies in their logic . . . Nor do they even care to be logical . . . All the wish to do is shift blame

So blinded they can't see their own lunacy
 

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The OC calls a play and the CB just stood there and almost intercepted it. So the OC calls another play where the CB can just stand there again...pick 6.

The OC is suppose to call plays that beat the defense, not feed directly into the defense. Like I've said before Dak is the type of QB that is going to run the pass play that's called or switch to a run. Cooper had to say, "This is crazy" just to get Dak to change the play call one time. Where as Romo would change any play he didn't like. Dak is a system QB.


96 was WIDE OPEN for an EASY FIRST DOWN. The CB baited Dak by playing off, but I don’t even think you can call it baiting, because Dak didn’t even bother to look at the defense and stares his WR down and throws it likes he’s practicing.

Moore did his job.

They are running a hell of a lot more quick-hitting plays for Dak which minimizes his processing flaws. You can only do so much as an OC period.
 
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The OC calls a play and the CB just stood there and almost intercepted it. So the OC calls another play where the CB can just stand there again...pick 6.

The OC is suppose to call plays that beat the defense, not feed directly into the defense. Like I've said before Dak is the type of QB that is going to run the pass play that's called or switch to a run. Cooper had to say, "This is crazy" just to get Dak to change the play call one time. Where as Romo would change any play he didn't like. Dak is a system QB.
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Who is the blame for that play? . . . kinda sounds you are throwing all the shade on Kellen . . . But then you kinda blame Dak but not really because poor Dak is just a system QB . . . Is this correct?

Sorry but no Dak (because of His pay scale) cannot be categorized as a system QB. . .Sorry He is franchise QB . . . Cooper Rush is a system QB and He ran Kellen's very well. . . If they were both just "System" QBs Rush would get the nod . . . No Mr. Sleep Number is a Franchise QB and probably the worse one in the History of The NFL.

I liked those low scoring games where the defense was fresh . . . I don't like these high scoring affairs where Dak keeps gifting the ball back to the other team (negating any rest for the Defense . . . Wonder why Micah and the crew look winded?)

How can you be a System QB when your skill sets are complementary to a TE? . . there is no system that fits him
 

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People also forgot later in the game, Dak threw an intermediate route towards the right side, right into double coverage but it went right through the hands of the safety who was just watching Dak and was well within position to make the play.

if that was a Cowboys WR, Dak’s fans would have been outraged by the drop…
 

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Who is the blame for that play? . . . kinda sounds you are throwing all the shade on Kellen . . . But then you kinda blame Dak but not really because poor Dak is just a system QB . . . Is this correct?

Sorry but no Dak (because of His pay scale) cannot be categorized as a system QB. . .Sorry He is franchise QB . . . Cooper Rush is a system QB and He ran Kellen's very well. . . If they were both just "System" QBs Rush would get the nod . . . No Mr. Sleep Number is a Franchise QB and probably the worse one in the History of The NFL.

I liked those low scoring games where the defense was fresh . . . I don't like these high scoring affairs where Dak keeps gifting the ball back to the other team (negating any rest for the Defense . . . Wonder why Micah and the crew look winded?)

How can you be a System QB when your skill sets are complementary to a TE? . . there is no system that fits him
Even his biggest fans, though having to finally acknowledge he’s a problem, are still trying to color it in rainbows, by throwing shade at everybody else. So if Dak is a “system QB”, so then it’s all on Moore apparently. Why’d we pay this “top 7” QB then? Why does Dak get the “credit” for the “top scoring” offense in the league?
 

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imagine what Moore could do with Herbert? Herbert is literaliy playing with Jason Garrett part 2 in Mike Lombardi and his whole team has been annihilated by injuries and he’s just doing GOAT type things.. if Dak was under Center with the Chargers right now, they’d probably have 3 wins maximum.
 

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If Dak was on any other team, he’d be a backup or even out of the league at this point. He’s not “better than most”.

physically gifted? He’s not tall, his mechanics suck, his footwork is questionable, he’s inaccurate and late with his deliveries, his processing speed sucks.. he runs lead-footed. He’s just strong and he can throw when he has time to plant his feet.. Whoopity doo….

He’s also like you said, not smart.. he stares down his WRs.. which people blame on Moore..

The OL and RG has masked his deficiencies to a large degree.
End of thread.
 

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The OC calls a play and the CB just stood there and almost intercepted it. So the OC calls another play where the CB can just stand there again...pick 6.

The OC is suppose to call plays that beat the defense, not feed directly into the defense. Like I've said before Dak is the type of QB that is going to run the pass play that's called or switch to a run. Cooper had to say, "This is crazy" just to get Dak to change the play call one time. Where as Romo would change any play he didn't like. Dak is a system QB.
So you are making excuses for Dak? It's Kellen's fault for telling him to throw right there no matter what?

That is pretty silly.
 

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Even his biggest fans, though having to finally acknowledge he’s a problem, are still trying to color it in rainbows, by throwing shade at everybody else. So if Dak is a “system QB”, so then it’s all on Moore apparently. Why’d we pay this “top 7” QB then? Why does Dak get the “credit” for the “top scoring” offense in the league?
this is their logic:

The Nerve of Moore calling all those fancy plays . . . He needs to dumb down the playbook. . . by being more creative because He calls the same plays which are predictable . . .

And build an offense around our limited "System" QB who at one time had the highest contract for a QB (that many here prayed that He would get and celebrated the event like they were finally Proven right in their assessment that he was a franchise QB) . . .

And The Cowboys need to replace Moore (inspite of all the success on the field in terms of offensive stats) because Dak needs a stranger off the streets who understands all this

I tried to express it in words to the best of my understanding . . . but It is truly mind boggling

But like you said . . . They are more concerned with arguing and blowing Rainbow Smoke up everybody's *****
 

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imagine what Moore could do with Herbert? Herbert is literaliy playing with Jason Garrett part 2 in Mike Lombardi and his whole team has been annihilated by injuries and he’s just doing GOAT type things.. if Dak was under Center with the Chargers right now, they’d probably have 3 wins maximum.
True and they would be trying to trade Him to Jerry for 2 #1 draft picks
 

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He's physically gifted. He's tough. He leaves it all out on the field. He doesn't let bad plays get him down. He says the right things and represents the team well, and his teammates seem to like him. That's all great.

He's also a better quarterback than most.

But if this season has proven one thing, it is this: Dak Prescott is not a smart player.

How can anyone even argue otherwise?

Over and over again, Dak makes the same mistakes. He makes terrible throws to the other team in the worst spots. He throws to receivers who are double and triple covered.

Each time Dak throws a crippling interception, he gets up at the podium after the game and says the same thing: Can't happen. Won't happen. I'll make sure it doesn't happen again.

And then he does it again. And again. And again.

What else can you call a player who doesn't learn?

In tonight's game, Dak threw a terrible ball that would have been yet another easy pick-6, if not for Fuller falling down and dropping it. So what does he do ON THE VERY NEXT PLAY? He throws an even worse ball TO THE SAME SPOT, AND TO THE SAME DEFENDER. Pick 6.

The announcers were tripping over themselves not to call him stupid. Because it was stupid.

Did he learn from it? No. He kept throwing to receivers with two or three Washington players draped all over them.

Oh, sure, we'll win more than we lose with Dak. We'll even put up 30 and 40 points sometimes and look great. But it's an illusion. We won't win games THAT MATTER unless someone can figure out how to fix a quarterback who makes bad decisions this often.
The NFL QB position is not just about reading a D, it's about reading a D in 2 seconds. This is a very rare trait to have at a high level, and Dak just isn't capable of doing it.

Not a basher, BTW, that's just what I'm seeing.
 

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The OC calls a play and the CB just stood there and almost intercepted it. So the OC calls another play where the CB can just stand there again...pick 6.

The OC is suppose to call plays that beat the defense, not feed directly into the defense. Like I've said before Dak is the type of QB that is going to run the pass play that's called or switch to a run. Cooper had to say, "This is crazy" just to get Dak to change the play call one time. Where as Romo would change any play he didn't like. Dak is a system QB.
I am confused . . . you claim the CB just stood there . . . But on the play i saw the CB was running at a full sprint for 8 yards before he reached the wide open Wr
 

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He's physically gifted. He's tough. He leaves it all out on the field. He doesn't let bad plays get him down. He says the right things and represents the team well, and his teammates seem to like him. That's all great.

He's also a better quarterback than most.

But if this season has proven one thing, it is this: Dak Prescott is not a smart player.

How can anyone even argue otherwise?

Over and over again, Dak makes the same mistakes. He makes terrible throws to the other team in the worst spots. He throws to receivers who are double and triple covered.

Each time Dak throws a crippling interception, he gets up at the podium after the game and says the same thing: Can't happen. Won't happen. I'll make sure it doesn't happen again.

And then he does it again. And again. And again.

What else can you call a player who doesn't learn?

In tonight's game, Dak threw a terrible ball that would have been yet another easy pick-6, if not for Fuller falling down and dropping it. So what does he do ON THE VERY NEXT PLAY? He throws an even worse ball TO THE SAME SPOT, AND TO THE SAME DEFENDER. Pick 6.

The announcers were tripping over themselves not to call him stupid. Because it was stupid.

Did he learn from it? No. He kept throwing to receivers with two or three Washington players draped all over them.

Oh, sure, we'll win more than we lose with Dak. We'll even put up 30 and 40 points sometimes and look great. But it's an illusion. We won't win games THAT MATTER unless someone can figure out how to fix a quarterback who makes bad decisions this often.
Here is Dak's response to your allegations.......:muttley:
 

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The OC calls a play and the CB just stood there and almost intercepted it. So the OC calls another play where the CB can just stand there again...pick 6.

The OC is suppose to call plays that beat the defense, not feed directly into the defense. Like I've said before Dak is the type of QB that is going to run the pass play that's called or switch to a run. Cooper had to say, "This is crazy" just to get Dak to change the play call one time. Where as Romo would change any play he didn't like. Dak is a system QB.
The OC can't choose the receiver and throw the ball for the quarterback.

Every play has 4 to 5 receivers in routes. They're not all open.

And those were quick slants. Dak chose that option in a millisecond. How is that anyone's fault but his?
 
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