Dak: Just how people feel - What it says if the contract isn't done before season

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Disgruntled Cowboys fans would like to believe that. They desperately cling to the notion Jerry Jones can affect some degree of retribution from Dak for a playoff loss that brought him to tears. Do you know why Dak can be outspoken about Jerry? It’s because Jerry has two choices with Dak. Pay him over $1.7 million per game to play this season or release him outright. I believe Dak would prefer to be released right now, but releasing him triggers an adverse cap scenario and forfeits a third round comp draft choice in 2026 when Dak signs elsewhere. So Jerry keeps Dak as QB1. Dak’s agent has done a wonderful job for him. And if Jerry has not offered Dak a contract, which I doubt is true and so do you, it would be because he fears negotiating with Todd France. I would consider that sound wisdom on Jerry Jones’ part, but I don’t believe Jerry is that smart. If Dak is “Inepto” that would make Jerry Jones an outright idiot in comparison. All the bravado in the world from Jerry Jones or any fans can erase the fact that Dak Prescott and his representation have, to date, done a masterful job handling the business aspect of Dak’s playing career. Jerry Jones and his front office have done a terrible job handling the business aspect of Dak’s playing career.
LOL..

I mean we too can play that game. Why doesn’t Dak just waive his no-trade clause and go someplace else, so Jerry can get something out of it? I mean if Dak and his fans are so confident in his abilities, he is surely worth a couple of first rounders and he would easily able to prove himself on his last year to the point the new team would want to extend him.

Dak-stans are operating in la la land. With the greatness that is Dak, you could think he could just sit out and force Jerry’s hand to pay him, you know like Lamb.
 

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I’m being dishonest? Okay. Carter was drafted in 2001, the year after Aikman retired. All the other QBs you mentioned were either here or after Carter was drafted. I didn’t say you were the only one who stated Dak is irreplaceable, nor did I directly said you stated it. I am pointing out the narrative of Dak being irreplaceable is false. I’m pointing out that Dak is the latest of a long line of QBs that have not been the guy to get Dallas past the the divisional round. So:
Carter, Stoerner, Hutchison, Wright, Cunningham, Leaf, Hensen, Vinny, Stephens, Banks, Bledsoe, Romo, Rush, Dak, Lance all have a 4 combined playoff wins in 23 seasons.

My point is we are still in the post Aikman QB purgatory. Dak is the shiniest of the crew but still isn’t the guy. Holding onto someone who is not the guy will only prolong the purgatory.
Perfectly stated. We still have not exited the post Aikman purgatory. 4 total playoff wins among all those QBs is the biggest failure of the JonesBoys.

Moneyball in the NFL - be drafting QBs with premium picks often.
 

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Only someone who hates Dak and hasn’t a clue about football would claim it’s pure fantasy for him to have postseason success with another team. The Cowboys haven’t had postseason success dating all the way back to Troy Aikman‘s final few seasons with the team. Our lack of postseason success the last two plus decades hasn’t been because of our QBs. The Joneses are the reason for our lack of postseason success. Put Dak on a team that’s more committed to winning and doesn’t have a couple of jugheads running it and he’ll have postseason success. We’ve had players leave the past few years that have ended up in Super Bowls with other teams. What’s frustrating is postseason Cowboys. The team we see in the playoffs is never the team we see through most of the regular season, especially the defense. Some of you either can’t recognize that or are in denial over it.
Now you want to resort to the "No True Scotsman" fallacy to keep up this conspiracy of emotions against Dak.

Buddy, one doesn't have to hate or love Dak to point at the truth, the facts that are his playoff results as reasons to not want to pay him, and to doubt that he could get it done even with another team. Dallas has had stacked rosters and he can't get it done, thus I don't believe he would get it done elsewhere. It's who he is.
 
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If Prescott doesn’t accept Jerry’s offer it’s not a matter of the Cowboys letting Dak go. It’s Dak decided to leave.
But not for the reasons u believe.

Dak is Soft !

Tad’s butt hurt ( who know what he goes by here )

France is Butthurt - would look bad for his other clients if Dak caves

But Dak doesn’t have the nutsacks to tell either his Agent or his Brother to back off.

Again he’s soft !

We don’t need a soft deer eye Doe as our QB1
 

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LOL..

I mean we too can play that game. Why doesn’t Dak just waive his no-trade clause and go someplace else, so Jerry can get something out of it? I mean if Dak and his fans are so confident in his abilities, he is surely worth a couple of first rounders and he would easily able to prove himself on his last year to the point the new team would want to extend him.

Dak-stans are operating in la la land. With the greatness that is Dak, you could think he could just sit out and force Jerry’s hand to pay him, you know like Lamb.
Dak is not going to do anything that would give a potential suitor for his services reason for pause. He’s not going to give Jerry the power to direct where he plays next. And he especially is not going to allow the Dallas Cowboys organization to gain anything in a trade. I doubt he thinks the Cowboys and their ungrateful fans deserve to get anything in return for him.

He, and particularly his agent, knows Dak is more valuable to teams interested in signing him if he’s a free agent than if he is available in trade. Dallas Cowboys fans get to see him play one more season and wave goodbye or get to see him play one more season and watch him get what he wants to re-sign and remain with the Cowboys. Dak will be smiling either way. Laughing is more likely. The Dallas Cowboys, Jerry Jones, and Cowboys fans may have lost in that playoff game to the Packers. Dak, on the other hand, is doing just fine.

Too many Cowboys fans can’t get past that loss and resent it did not adversely affect Dak. If you’re one of those fans you should probably do what Dak told you to do. “Move on”.
 

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Can you imagine the anarchy in here if our QB craps the bed in Game 1? I honestly have no idea what to expect, but if I was to guess? I still have no idea, but if Watson lights up our D and our QB fails? Head for the exits folks, it will get ugly real quick
Some people will not be happy even if we win. Going to be interesting to see if we have corrected the run game on both sides of the ball.
 

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Here's one to consider:

If there really were other teams out there willing to break the bank for Dak, then why doesn't he waive the no-trade clause, take the money, and run?

There aren't any other teams out there ready to break the bank for him. This is all a bluff to try and fleece Jerry. And it looks like Jerry has figured this out too.
 

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Here's one to consider:

If there really were other teams out there willing to break the bank for Dak, then why doesn't he waive the no-trade clause, take the money, and run?

There aren't any other teams out there ready to break the bank for him. This is all a bluff to try and fleece Jerry. And it looks like Jerry has figured this out too.
Or, Dak and his agent long ago figured out whatever he’s worth to another team it’s more if he’s a free agent than if they have to trade for him. Dak Prescott has been paid twice as much as any Cowboys player, ever. He and his representation know they don’t have to “try and fleece Jerry”. They already did. I think they’re looking forward to fleecing some other ownership group.

Can you imagine the number of players that will be seeking out Todd France’s services? Dak is going to finish taking another $29 million from the Cowboys, even though the team could just release him and pay him nothing. And then if he doesn’t get what he wants from Jerry, the only thing he’ll be waving is goodbye.
 

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Here's one to consider:

If there really were other teams out there willing to break the bank for Dak, then why doesn't he waive the no-trade clause, take the money, and run?

There aren't any other teams out there ready to break the bank for him. This is all a bluff to try and fleece Jerry. And it looks like Jerry has figured this out too.
No team is going to give Prestrash anywhere close to 60 million a year.
As you correctly state the Church of Todd and Dak is selling hot air here and with patience, after the year that is upcoming for him he will be lucky to hit the 40 million $ mark.
Bookmark this Stans and come back to it when the tears are rolling down your lovely chins seeing Dak's real reality in the NFL................
 

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Dak is not going to do anything that would give a potential suitor for his services reason for pause. He’s not going to give Jerry the power to direct where he plays next. And he especially is not going to allow the Dallas Cowboys organization to gain anything in a trade. I doubt he thinks the Cowboys and their ungrateful fans deserve to get anything in return for him.

He, and particularly his agent, knows Dak is more valuable to teams interested in signing him if he’s a free agent than if he is available in trade. Dallas Cowboys fans get to see him play one more season and wave goodbye or get to see him play one more season and watch him get what he wants to re-sign and remain with the Cowboys. Dak will be smiling either way. Laughing is more likely. The Dallas Cowboys, Jerry Jones, and Cowboys fans may have lost in that playoff game to the Packers. Dak, on the other hand, is doing just fine.

Too many Cowboys fans can’t get past that loss and resent it did not adversely affect Dak. If you’re one of those fans you should probably do what Dak told you to do. “Move on”.
Or he could play and get injured and break his leg after committing 7 TOs in 4 and a half games like he did before he got this last garbage contract? So you avoided the point buddy, why doesn’t Dak just sit and force a contract like Lamb did if he has all the leverage?


The only reason Dak has such a garbage contract in the first place is because Jerry was too nice to him. It’s not that he deserved it, it was because he was riding off the “hope” of 2016, he absolutely sucked in 2017, and was garbage in 2018, the actual worst player on the team before they had to bail him out by getting Amari. He had arguably the best 1-2 punch in football in Zeke and Pollard in 2019, but he decided to throw it over 40 times against the Wentz-led Eagles and he choked the playoffs. Dallas went out and got him more weapons on offense, even gave him the top ranked TO defense 2 years in a row and despite being the worst division in football, he sucked it up against good defenses. He ended this season with 5 INTs in 4 games, should have had a lot more if defenders could catch.

Dak isn’t wanted here not because of 1 playoff game, he’s not wanted here because he’s over-rated stat passer that can’t win against good teams and he plays in a garbage division. Stop fooling yourself.

It’s a good way to cope I guess for you Dak fans. You were saying he was guaranteed to get a contract in March, because he has all the leverage. The guy that had all the leverage makes his first statement on the contract on a visit to a cancer hospital saying “all the right things”.
 
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Or he could play and get injured and break his leg after committing 7 TOs in 4 and a half games like he did before he got this last garbage contract? So you avoided the point buddy, why doesn’t Dak just sit and force a contract like Lamb did if he has all the leverage?


The only reason Dak has such a garbage contract in the first place is because Jerry was too nice to him. It’s not that he deserved it, it was because he was riding off the “hope” of 2016, he absolutely sucked in 2017, and was garbage in 2018, the actual worst player on the team before they had to bail him out by getting Amari. He had arguably the best 1-2 punch in football in Zeke and Pollard in 2019, but he decided to throw it over 40 times against the Wentz-led Eagles and he choked the playoffs. Dallas went out and got him more weapons on offense, even gave him the top ranked TO defense 2 years in a row and despite being the worst division in football, he sucked it up against good defenses. He ended this season with 5 INTs in 4 games, should have had a lot more if defenders could catch.

Dak isn’t wanted here not because of 1 playoff game, he’s not wanted here because he’s over-rated stat passer that can’t win against good teams and he plays in a garbage division. Stop fooling yourself.

It’s a good way to cope I guess for you Dak fans. You were saying he was guaranteed to get a contract in March, because he has all the leverage. The guy that had all the leverage makes his first statement on the contract on a visit to a cancer hospital saying “all the right things”.
He doesn”t sit out because he wants the rest of his money from Jerry. He’s smarter than Jerry and obviously smarter than you. Why would he forfeit over $1.7 million per game? Who would do that? In addition, he’s not displaying a willingness not to live up to his contract (his word) that might make another team doubt his veracity about playing football. Anything bad that happens to him, like poor play and/or injuries doesn’t help the Dallas Cowboys. Dak will be signing a contract at worst $45 million per season, at best $65 million per season. It will likely be somewhere in between those figures.

He’s going to be paid tens of millions of dollars to play in the NFL next year. There is nothing you, Jerry Jones, Mike McCarthy, and all the whiney, disgruntled, misguided Cowboys fans in the world can do about it. For god’s sake Dak was right. “Move on”.
 

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He doesn”t sit out because he wants the rest of his money from Jerry. He’s smarter than Jerry and obviously smarter than you. Why would he forfeit over $1.7 million per game? Who would do that? In addition, he’s not displaying a willingness not to live up to his contract (his word) that might make another team doubt his veracity about playing football. Anything bad that happens to him, like poor play and/or injuries doesn’t help the Dallas Cowboys. Dak will be signing a contract at worst $45 million per season, at best $65 million per season. It will likely be somewhere in between those figures.

He’s going to be paid tens of millions of dollars to play in the NFL next year. There is nothing you, Jerry Jones, Mike McCarthy, and all the whiney, disgruntled, misguided Cowboys fans in the world can do about it. For god’s sake Dak was right. “Move on”.
So if Dak gets injured, how is it bad for the Cowboys? They saved giving him a bad contract and Dak also risks getting the contract you claim he will easily get. So Dak doesn’t sit, otherwise he risks money. Lamb had zero problems sitting and risking money and he was on a rookie contract. If Dallas needed Dak so bad like you claim, shouldn’t they be the ones hurting to sign him if he sits?

You know it sound to me like the leverage you claim exists fit Dak doesn’t really exist and you are just looking for excuses to cope with the fact you thought he would be signed by now.

We’ve already moved on buddy, you are the guys making excuses. In fact, we wanted to move on long ago, but Dak was whining through his brother Tad and boys on Twittter..
 

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So if Dak gets injured, how is it bad for the Cowboys? They saved giving him a bad contract and Dak also risks getting the contract you claim he will easily get. So Dak doesn’t sit, otherwise he risks money. Lamb had zero problems sitting and risking money and he was on a rookie contract. If Dallas needed Dak so bad like you claim, shouldn’t they be the ones hurting to sign him if he sits?

You know it sound to me like the leverage you claim exists fit Dak doesn’t really exist and you are just looking for excuses to cope with the fact you thought he would be signed by now.

We’ve already moved on buddy, you are the guys making excuses. In fact, we wanted to move on long ago, but Dak was whining through his brother Tad and boys on Twittter..
Apparently Dak, who is the one actually playing the game, and is the starting quarterback for the Dallas Cowboys, is not worried. Many, many Cowboys fans like to dream up scenarios that result in something bad happening to Dak Prescott. Then they can’t understand why Dak isn’t bothered by playing risking all the bad things idiot fans hope happen to him. You need to move on. There will be no retribution exacted on Dak for the loss to the Packers. He’s rich from playing football and stands to get significantly richer doing it in the future. He’s living his best life.

He doesn’t know either one of us. And even if he did, no way he could care less what our opinions of him of him are. That pretty much goes for Jerry Jones, the Cowboys coaching staff, the entire front office, his teammates and every other Cowboys fan, as well. He is the least upset person on earth about that Packers game. I can’t see why so few people see the humor in this.
 

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Apparently Dak, who is the one actually playing the game, and is the starting quarterback for the Dallas Cowboys, is not worried. Many, many Cowboys fans like to dream up scenarios that result in something bad happening to Dak Prescott. Then they can’t understand why Dak isn’t bothered by playing risking all the bad things idiot fans hope happen to him. You need to move on. There will be no retribution exacted on Dak for the loss to the Packers. He’s rich from playing football and stands to get significantly richer doing it in the future. He’s living his best life.

He doesn’t know either one of us. And even if he did, no way he could care less what our opinions of him of him are. That pretty much goes for Jerry Jones, the Cowboys coaching staff, the entire front office, his teammates and every other Cowboys fan, as well. He is the least upset person on earth about that Packers game. I can’t see why so few people see the humor in this.
Ok Tad give your brother regards......... :banghead:
 

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Apparently Dak, who is the one actually playing the game, and is the starting quarterback for the Dallas Cowboys, is not worried. Many, many Cowboys fans like to dream up scenarios that result in something bad happening to Dak Prescott. Then they can’t understand why Dak isn’t bothered by playing risking all the bad things idiot fans hope happen to him. You need to move on. There will be no retribution exacted on Dak for the loss to the Packers. He’s rich from playing football and stands to get significantly richer doing it in the future. He’s living his best life.

He doesn’t know either one of us. And even if he did, no way he could care less what our opinions of him of him are. That pretty much goes for Jerry Jones, the Cowboys coaching staff, the entire front office, his teammates and every other Cowboys fan, as well. He is the least upset person on earth about that Packers game. I can’t see why so few people see the humor in this.
I mean why waste your time typing all this, instead of answering the question?

You seem to be operating under this bogus assumption that Jerry or Dak’s enemies don’t want to sign him to “exact retribution”. I already told you the reality is, Dak is mediocre, the Packers game just 1 of many that prove it and the facts of the matter is we didn’t want Jerry to give him that unearned contract in the first place. We always thought he was a mediocre QB, riding the coattails of a good roster on a garbage division. He has been the weak link and all signs point to Jerry finally having enough of it. It’s multiple years in a row where Jerry directly pointed to Dak as the primary reason for not going anywhere, “We will go as far as Dak takes us.”

If Dak held all the cards, then he can just sit. But you said he doesn’t want to risk paying a fine, yet if Dallas needs him, then Jerry will back up the truck, like he did for Lamb, to sign him. But that’s clearly not happening. We all saw Dak at the cancer hospital playing good boy for Jerry.

You fanboys also claimed he would be signed by March, as Jerry needed him. Now we are here and you are spinning him not signing as part of sons grand plan by Dak and his agent.

It’s cute though… you are right, Dak doesn’t know either of us exist. Yet you seem to be the one defending him like you are Tad and he’s the second coming of Brady, yet in year 8 they were dumbing the offense down for him.
 

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Now you want to resort to the "No True Scotsman" fallacy to keep up this conspiracy of emotions against Dak.

Buddy, one doesn't have to hate or love Dak to point at the truth, the facts that are his playoff results as reasons to not want to pay him, and to doubt that he could get it done even with another team. Dallas has had stacked rosters and he can't get it done, thus I don't believe he would get it done elsewhere. It's who he is.
You fans that hate Dak are incapable of pointing out the truth because either you’re too biased to be honest or you’ve brainwashed yourselves into believing the all the crap you post about him. Many on this board claim he sucks or he’s average and isn’t a legitimate starting caliber QB. It’s laughable some of the BS that gets posted about him. You have fans comparing him to Quincy Carter. :facepalm: The Cowboys have had good rosters that don’t show up in the playoffs…fact! Our defense never shows up. No QB you put behind center with this team will be able to have success in the playoffs with all the inconsistencies we see, especially on the defensive side of the ball. Some of you think it’s as simple as just sticking another QB behind center and it will magically turn the the Cowboys into a championship team. Some of you don’t have a clue about football. Lol There’s fans on this board claiming that Trey Lance is better than Dak. :rolleyes: You’re putting every problem the team has entirely on him. No QB is going to be able to overcome the Joneses management.

Troy Aikman got fed up with the team at the end of his career. Go look at the videos of him ranting and raving on the sidelines after Jimmy left. Once Jerry took total control, the Cowboys have gone nowhere. They’ve become extremely undisciplined, leading the league in penalties or coming close to it practically every year. Our defense gets manhandled against championship contending teams. Even bad teams like Arizona are able to road grade our defense. If you think another QB is going to overcome all the issues and the lack of desire the Cowboys have shown, you’re dreaming!
 

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When owners start praising their players' work ethic that's like your Bud describing the blind date he set you up with "Hey man she has a great personality" Start running for them hills!!!

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