Dak led league in "tight window throws" and why this led to league high interceptions

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Redsfan_83

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When your QB constantly is throwing into double and triple coverage, this isn't him trying to be Superman...this is him not having the ability to find additional reads on a consistent basis. Clearly he has the ability to do so when not pressured, his issue is when under pressure he panics. I don't care about stats and this and that....any casual fan like I see it.
 

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while that stat with the tight windows is true, KM didnt change anything to help Dak much. Thats where I think KM was bad...he just never did adjust the plays to help Dak get the ball to the guys.
Well it's fair to say that Moore and his play scheme's didn't help, but youre suggesting a dumbed down, more simple, game plan, more short yardage plays, less progessions and more checkouts options.
Then the argument about elite needs to be put to bed....as Dak trying to elevate his game to that sphere has failed. Just play a teammoriented game (if ,as I suspect, Jerry/Stephen adds tge pressure and says he needs to earn the money by more responsibility, they need to back off and/or make a decision in 2024 what they really want).
 

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The reason I blame Dak for the loss to SF in the playoffs was his 2 INT's were in fact a game changer and he only led the offense to 12 points in a game where the Dallas defense shut down SF and held them to 1 TD and 6 points came off of turnovers.
Oh, no doubt. The two interceptions, I think, were his fault. My point was that there were several times during the season in which Dak threw some well thrown passes that the WRs bobbled and were intercepted for which he received blame. This includes the Jaguars game that possibly cost us moving up a seed or two, as well as the chance at taking the division. This could've either had us playing Philly in the divisional round instead of SFO, and Dak usually owns Philly. So, that was also a very consequential game that, sure, it might not have been a playoff game, but it had severe playoff implications. That's where I was going with my point about holding Hurts and Dak to the same standard. If they are the two best QBs in our division, then they should be held to an equal standard. Further, if Hurts, as some on here seem to think, is the better of the two QBs, shouldn't he be held to a higher standard than Dak?
 

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Let's not pretend that if Dak had the season Hurts had last year and the Super Bowl game Hurts had that some wouldn't be pretending he was better than Mahomes right now.

It works both ways, ya know?

I'm not saying that he had as good a season as Hurts. What I am saying is that the standards for each should vary depending on the caliber of QB that they are claimed to be. I'd say it's probably safe to say that they are similar-caliber QBs. I'm curious to see what would happen if the Cowboys and Eagles to head to head with Hurts and Dak at their best because I think that will help show a bit more as to the balance of power in the division. Especially since both play twice. Regardless, I think they are a similar-caliber of QB. So, the standards for each should be held the same. I do expect a lot from Dak, even as someone that does support Dak as he's the starting QB for the Cowboys (and I'd support any and all of our QBs). So, I do expect a lot from Hurts if he's a similar level of QB. See my point?
 

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There is definitely truth in this. Speed on the perimeter and a change in passing game concepts will help a lot.
 

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There is definitely truth in this. Speed on the perimeter and a change in passing game concepts will help a lot.
would it not be ironic if one Jerry Golden Boy (Moore) was messing up another Jerry Golden Boy (Dak)?
 

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would it not be ironic if one Jerry Golden Boy (Moore) was messing up another Jerry Golden Boy (Dak)?
Moore did some good things. He always orchestrated a productive offense. I think his inexperience became exposed by expecting too much from his players.
 

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Well if you are not good at it ........ Stahp it!
I don’t think he wants to throw in tight spaces it’s just that’s what he had to do. He never had to do it in 2016. Offensive line got worse, less separation….I can see throwing more picks.
 

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No way that Rayne will lead the league in interceptions for 2 years in his career

Just because he has already led the league in fumbles 2 years is no indication of the future
 

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Oh, no doubt. The two interceptions, I think, were his fault. My point was that there were several times during the season in which Dak threw some well thrown passes that the WRs bobbled and were intercepted for which he received blame. This includes the Jaguars game that possibly cost us moving up a seed or two, as well as the chance at taking the division. This could've either had us playing Philly in the divisional round instead of SFO, and Dak usually owns Philly. So, that was also a very consequential game that, sure, it might not have been a playoff game, but it had severe playoff implications. That's where I was going with my point about holding Hurts and Dak to the same standard. If they are the two best QBs in our division, then they should be held to an equal standard. Further, if Hurts, as some on here seem to think, is the better of the two QBs, shouldn't he be held to a higher standard than Dak?
But then offsetting the receiver juggles which turned into picks....there were many instances where receiver core turned CB and broke up ints. ....is there a stat on that...don’t know
 

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But then offsetting the receiver juggles which turned into picks....there were many instances where receiver core turned CB and broke up ints. ....is there a stat on that...don’t know
WRs and others are charged with drops; why are not CBs and defensive players charged with dropped picks?

a QB should be rated on that with everything else.
 

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But then offsetting the receiver juggles which turned into picks....there were many instances where receiver core turned CB and broke up ints. ....is there a stat on that...don’t know

Fair point, there probably were instances of that, and also near misses where the WRs bobbled it and it nearly got picked. The point is, I'm not sure that many QBs have this level of scrutiny about the passes that are either picked or are nearly picked. I think that Dak has to play better, but I think having better WRs, as we seem like we will have this year, will help reduce that figure. Plus, the WCO should benefit Dak because he will be throwing ahead of the WR instead of waiting for them to come back. So, he can better anticipate where the WR will be, and DBs won't have that second or two beat on the curl routes to try to jump the route. That's an important aspect that should help Dak.
 

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btw, McCarthy said himself, he asked Dak to be more aggressive and then he wasn't on the same page with his OC....so Moore is doing one thing and McCarthy another. they were not on the same page and thus Moore is gone. not saying Moore was a problem, but when OC and Coach aren't on the same page, then it leads to issue. McCarthy called out Moore in more than one occasion and he knew from get go he was Jones' boy and had to be handled with kid gloves
Enough with the blame and excuses.I’ve never heard any fan base have more excuses for 1 player than Dak.Whoever is calling plays,things won’t change.You can’t call the perfect play every time.Sometimes the QB just has to be able to make a play when things around you aren’t perfect.Dak just doesn’t seem to have those capabilities.
 
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