Dak Never Comes Up Big

[Slick]

Does it matter? The 6 or 11 does Brady get his team in the endzone? Rodgers? What about Troy Aikman? The great ones find a way. Dak had a very good game but couldn’t find a way to win it for his team in a huge game. It’s a theme. Not sure it ever changes as he is what he is. And that’s a serviceable NFL QB.

And for his pay, he needs to deliver. He’s overpaid, and needs to go.

 

[john van brocklin]

We can say this or that lost the game for the Cowboys but AGAIN, it comes down to the QB making a play when you need it most and for some reason, Dak seems to always fall short and it’s not for lack of effort, he just doesn’t get it done. 1st and goal on the six to WIN the game and we don’t score? I partly blame Dak but mostly however in this spot, McCarthy you would think would have a golden play or 2 in the back of his head just for such a time in a big game. NOPE!!

As Jimmy Johnson once said:
Some players can sink the 8 ball and some can't.
Dak has had a wonderful career for a 4th round pick.
But he has hit his ceiling.

 

[TequilaCowboy]

We can say this or that lost the game for the Cowboys but AGAIN, it comes down to the QB making a play when you need it most and for some reason, Dak seems to always fall short and it’s not for lack of effort, he just doesn’t get it done. 1st and goal on the six to WIN the game and we don’t score? I partly blame Dak but mostly however in this spot, McCarthy you would think would have a golden play or 2 in the back of his head just for such a time in a big game. NOPE!!

Why are we not surprised? This wasn't a playoff game, but it was just as important because they would have actually be leading the division with a win. Instead they are floundering more than two games back and losing the tie breaker right now. Those saying the Eagles are in a tough stretch and will lose a few more games are forgetting the Cowboys will surely be losing a few more too. Two big tests and they flunked both. MM and Dak do deserve each other, both over their heads.

 

[Jake]

We can say this or that lost the game for the Cowboys but AGAIN, it comes down to the QB making a play when you need it most and for some reason, Dak seems to always fall short and it’s not for lack of effort, he just doesn’t get it done. 1st and goal on the six to WIN the game and we don’t score? I partly blame Dak but mostly however in this spot, McCarthy you would think would have a golden play or 2 in the back of his head just for such a time in a big game. NOPE!!

I have criticized Dak many times - made some people mad doing it - but he threw for 374 yards, 3 TDs, and no turnovers with no running game worth mentioning, being pressured all night because Steele couldn't block me. But yeah, Dak's fault.

The vaunted defense gave up four touchdowns and failed to recover 3 fumbles. Dak was the reason the game was even close. If you're blaming Dak for this one you're either agenda-driven, don't understand what you are watching, or just being lazy.

 

[LysleE]

This was a tough loss, but it was an organizational loss. The esteemed FO failed yet again to shore-up a weakened offensive line or acquire another RB to complement Pollard, who is not an every down back. And why go out and sign a FA receiver who can be a #2, who has been productive with every team he has played on, but has rarely been involved in the offense thus far. While these deficiencies can be masked by playing bad-to-mediocre teams; they are exposed when playing the more talented, playoff-caliber teams such as the Eagles.

I think MM is not a great play caller…the offense has taken a step-backwards. The offense lacks innovation and has no identity: don’t have the stud RB to be a run-first team, nor a #2 WR to complement Lamb and be a pass-first team. I’m not a Dak fan, but he made a lot of plays with his legs, both running and extended plays…but do you want a $40MM QB making a living at that.

Speaking of Dak, he has to find a way to score inside the 10-yard line when the game is on the line; you have to know you cannot take a sack; you cannot waste time…if Steele was a weakness, then Dak or MM should have slid the protection or chipped the DE to help Steele.

Don’t see a lot of upside here…we all know the FO will extend Dak and pay him what…$45-$50 MM a year, when Dallas has to pay CD and Parsons; and surround Dak with the playmakers he needs to be effective. We know Dak was at his apex early in his career with Zeke, Witten, Dez and a stud offensive line…he has none of that now except for CD, but good teams can take him away. So what are the expectations for Dak going forward.

 

[Cmac]

Dak is in his 8th season. He has reached his ceiling. He isn't going to get better in fact he will start to decline. The Cowboys are not winning a Superbowl with this team or Dak as QB. They need to make changes. Dak's contract is a problem. They are going to have to eventually have to look for another QB. They need to start drafting quarterbacks. (hopefully Lance cand be developed) If something doesn't work it needs to be fixed.

????. Ok. Sounds like we just need QBs on rookie contracts. Run Micah, Diggs, and Cee Dee. You're coming up on new deals soon.

 

[Qcard]

Prescott's record and Performance against Philadelphia Eagles. The Best Team in the NFC since 2022, last team to win Superbowl from NFC East division and latest NFC Superbowl representative.

We don't Believe You!!!

Dak Haters WILL NEVER EVER like Prescott

 

[CowboyoWales]

Wales.....just give it up. You taking my points all over the place.

That's because im discussing points, whereas your debate is that everyone who questions Dak's future is doing so on an agenda. You cant get your head around us fans that think Dak's a very good QB that repeatedly falls short in the most intense scenarios and as such may well get us close, but never over the line. Under such circumstances there is no point throwing more money at him, especially when retaining him as an adverse effect upon the needs in areas he needs support (mainly O-Line).

 

[Cmac]

And for his pay, he needs to deliver. He’s overpaid, and needs to go.

Apparently, Dak has to play a perfect/flawless game while some can just be out there failing to execute or making mistakes. Hmmm.

 

[Cmac]

That's because im discussing points, whereas your debate is that everyone who questions Dak's future is doing so on an agenda. You cant get your head around us fans that think Dak's a very good QB that repeatedly falls short in the most intense scenarios and as such may well get us close, but never over the line. Under such circumstances there is no point throwing more money at him, especially when retaining him as an adverse effect upon the needs in areas he needs support (mainly O-Line).

Wales.....we know many on the Board didn't want Dak to receive his market value. I understand that, since the salary is the "go to" move about Dak on this board, just as it became for Zeke running on a bad leg and working with an overrated OL. All the variables around the team get dismissed.

To try to help you one last time.......watch the Board change about Micah once Jerry pays him EARNED money.....or shall I say "outperforming his contract". Many on here will expect 20 sacks and change on him if his games aren't elevated to Fantasy Football level.

The problem some don't want to see is the lack of depth........there are guys lined up down the streets, around the buildings, and in the woods that don't get a "look"..........HBCUs and small school players, but we get enamored with the Boise States and Michigans. Scouting like the Per Diem money is limited. As for trades, Cowboy FO reportedly gave a half-hearted effort just to pick the phone up about trades. Arrogant.

 

[Captain-Crash]

How did this thread go 12 pages and no one mentioned 4th and 8? If PHI gets a 1st down, it's game over. Ferguson was wide open in the middle of the field and Dak threw a high pass to a blanketed Tolbert for the turnover on downs. Line blocked perfectly, Dak had no one in his face.

That play is getting memory holed.

super dak got scared. the glitch is real.

 

[Slick]

Apparently, Dak has to play a perfect/flawless game while some can just be out there failing to execute or making mistakes. Hmmm.

For his no trade clause and salary cap hit, exactly, he gets paid elite level, he’s supposed to deliver elite level play.

 

[Cmac]

For his no trade clause and salary cap hit, exactly, he gets paid elite level, he’s supposed to deliver elite level play.

Not so fast.......he got the Market Value. According to Spotrac......Top salaries for QBs in 2023 were: Russell Wilson, Rodgers, Mahomes, Watson, Allen, Kyler Murray, Lamar Jackson, Hurts, and Joe Burrow.

Mahomes had the highest Cap hit. Dak is fourth for Salary Cap hit to his team for 2023, led by Mahomes (worth it), followed by Ryan Tannehill and Jared Goff.
Ryan Tannehill had the highest base salary for 2023, for a QB......Ryan Tannehill listed #2 to highest Cap hit and #5 in career earnings for a QB on a roster right now.
Dak listed second in signing bonus value for 2023.

Jerry has done this before. Only difference, Jerry placed Tony where a Mahomes would be expected to rank regarding salary & worth. And we got the same results in the biggest of games.

 

[CowboyoWales]

Not so fast.......he got the Market Value. According to Spotrac......Top salaries for QBs in 2023 were: Russell Wilson, Rodgers, Mahomes, Watson, Allen, Kyler Murray, Lamar Jackson, Hurts, and Joe Burrow.

Mahomes had the highest Cap hit. Dak is fourth for Salary Cap hit to his team for 2023, led by Mahomes (worth it), followed by Ryan Tannehill and Jared Goff.
Ryan Tannehill had the highest base salary for 2023, for a QB......Ryan Tannehill listed #2 to highest Cap hit and #5 in career earnings for a QB on a roster right now.
Dak listed second in signing bonus value for 2023.

Jerry has done this before. Only difference, Jerry placed Tony where a Mahomes would be expected to rank regarding salary & worth. And we got the same results in the biggest of games.

Tony's contract failed miserably, however, teo wrongs....
The whole issue (and why so many of us bring it up), is that the Jones' have kicked the can into such a scenario (of deferred bonus) that Dak's extension will come with either: a massive CAP hit (from virtually Yr1) or it's a long contract (that may give a year or so respite....but will be astronomical for an extended period).
Paying a non-elite veteran QB never works (unless it's on an extended period ala Hurts /Stafford).
Your position appears to be to blame everyone, outside of Dak, but with no solutions.

 

[Cmac]

Tony's contract failed miserably, however, teo wrongs....
The whole issue (and why so many of us bring it up), is that the Jones' have kicked the can into such a scenario (of deferred bonus) that Dak's extension will come with either: a massive CAP hit (from virtually Yr1) or it's a long contract (that may give a year or so respite....but will be astronomical for an extended period).
Paying a non-elite veteran QB never works (unless it's on an extended period ala Hurts /Stafford).
Your position appears to be to blame everyone, outside of Dak, but with no solutions.

After all has been said after the Philly game........and every analyst and objective viewer's assessment........you still find a way to diminish Dak. I understand. I got it.

 

[Cowboys5217]

Apparently, Dak has to play a perfect/flawless game while some can just be out there failing to execute or making mistakes. Hmmm.

You guys are the ones that blame other players for Dak's shortcomings all the time. If the game didn't go flawlessly in every area then Dak gets a pass from you for failing.

It's always the blocking, nobody open, or the lack of separation, but it is NEVER Dak for your group.

 

[Cowboys5217]

After all has been said after the Philly game........and every analyst and objective viewer's assessment........you still find a way to diminish Dak. I understand. I got it.

All of your appeals to authority and popularity do not remove the fact that Dak choked in the biggest moment.

 

[Cmac]

You guys are the ones that blame other players for Dak's shortcomings all the time. If the game didn't go flawlessly in every area then Dak gets a pass from you for failing.

It's always the blocking, nobody open, or the lack of separation, but it is NEVER Dak for your group.

Is this a Dak hate campaign or an analysis of the Philly game?

 

[Cmac]

All of your appeals to authority and popularity do not remove the fact that Dak choked in the biggest moment.

I ask again......Is this a Dak hate campaign or an analysis of the Philly game?

 

[Slick]

After all has been said after the Philly game........and every analyst and objective viewer's assessment........you still find a way to diminish Dak. I understand. I got it.

He doesn’t deliver under pressure against winning teams, and especially when he needs to rise above when the defense is struggling. Those other QBs have. He’s not the spark to ignite this offense when it matters, and that’s why. 8yrs of it. How many playoff wins?

Nothing’s going to change, unless the FO tries somebody different. He’s also got zero chances of getting benched, and that means zero accountability on his part.