Dak Positivity Thread - Putting Mistakes Behind Him

SteveTheCowboy

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Ya I can’t think of a time where we haven’t been talented
Just not talented enough or in right spots.Coaching is bigger issue over the years and putting that said talent in best position to win and Jerry could benefit from staying out of the way

but I admit my memory is fading a bit
I suppose it does depend on your definition of "talent". Amd how many talented positions are on the field together.

Does one player count as "Jerry "ALWAYS" puts talent on the field"? 3? 12?

We sure have had some real stinkers. People USED to complain about Jerry's talent selection. Now people revere it?

well okay then!
 

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"Fellow Zoners - While I fully expect Captain Dak to pilot the SS Dallas Cowboy ship directly into an iceberg once the post season starts"

Quite the start to a positive thread there.
 

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I suppose it does depend on your definition of "talent". Amd how many talented positions are on the field together.

Does one player count as "Jerry "ALWAYS" puts talent on the field"? 3? 12?

We sure have had some real stinkers. People USED to complain about Jerry's talent selection. Now people revere it?

well okay then!
I guess knowing what poster meant is important . Trench talent at same time has been an issue but as far back as I can remember we’ve always had talent at the glory spots ( wr, rb, qb ) except the time between aikman and Romo .defense can he questioned


Even QC had talent he was just more talented at partying
 

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Fellow Zoners - While I fully expect Captain Dak to pilot the SS Dallas Cowboy ship directly into an iceberg once the post season starts, I thought I'd try to keep things positive and give Dak some kudos for his pretty remarkable ability this season to move on from mistakes. He seems to have that Ted Lasso 'Goldfish memory' going for him where he can leave disastrous miscues in the rear view mirror and rally to play well and even lead the team to victory (Philly and Houston being two good examples). Many other QB's would have crumbled after such terrible picks, but Dak has been able to bounce back. It's even more remarkable given the mental aspect of the game isn't exactly Dak's strong suit, but kudos to him for showing such resiliency.

It is a remarkable trait for him to be able to do that. For a guy not know for throwing picks it’s another feather in his cap.
 

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He’s had a very high percentage of his ints come from balls bouncing off the wr hands and going right to the secondary…I forget where I saw the number but about half weren’t his fault (someone posted it on here)

that being said, he’s got to make less mistakes and clean up in the playoffs….can’t turn it over 3 times in a playoff game and expect to get a win
 

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It is a remarkable trait for him to be able to do that. For a guy not know for throwing picks it’s another feather in his cap.

Interesting statement considering he's missed 5 games and still #1 in the league in Ints this year

Yes, I know, none of those interceptions are his fault according to his backers. I'm guessing Even the ones that could be his fault can easily be blamed on those damn defenders who catch the balls that hit them between the #s

But I know in this forum, when it comes to Dak fans, stats are all that matters

And the stats say hes leading the league in picks. So I guess at least this year he is known for throwing interceptions isn't he?
 

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Interesting statement considering he's missed 5 games and still #1 in the league in Ints this year

Yes, I know, none of those interceptions are his fault according to his backers. I'm guessing Even the ones that could be his fault can easily be blamed on those damn defenders who catch the balls that hit them between the #s

But I know in this forum, when it comes to Dak fans, stats are all that matters

And the stats say hes leading the league in picks. So I guess at least this year he is known for throwing interceptions isn't he?

He is not a guy known for throwing lots of picks in his career. That is a fact. You can spin that however you want. This year is something of an anomaly for him.
 

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He is not a guy known for throwing lots of picks in his career. That is a fact. You can spin that however you want. This year is something of an anomaly for him.

Well, the rams won the super bowl last year and are tanking this year.

Which one is the anomaly?

Either way they still got a trophy in the case. So anomaly or not, it counts.

And anomaly or not dak is leading the league in picks. That isnt a positive development imo
 

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Whatever you think the failure rate is for first round QBs it's higher for those drafted later.

True.
So are we ready to go fishing? With this GM who wanted manziel and was going to trade up for Lynch.

You have a good QB then you build a team that can make a run. There is only 3 or 4 out of 32 teams that have an elite QB....

The question is can this GM do that?
 

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I think you and I had this exact same debate a few months ago, including you making that same point about Manziel, and we didn't agree then so I doubt we will agree now.
 

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He’s had a very high percentage of his ints come from balls bouncing off the wr hands and going right to the secondary…I forget where I saw the number but about half weren’t his fault (someone posted it on here)

that being said, he’s got to make less mistakes and clean up in the playoffs….can’t turn it over 3 times in a playoff game and expect to get a win

What was one of the reasons the Cowboys did so well in Dak's rookie year? Only 4 ints, tied for second in the league in int percentage, trailing only Brady.
So, Dak has shown ints don't have to be an issue, possibly he can "right the ship" and return to protecting the ball. Some here act like Dak has been an int machine his entire career. Now generally it's far easier to get into bad habits rather than get out of them, but would it hurt to at least consider that Dak might be able to return to 2016 form?

Also, when Dak does throw an int that doesn't involve the receiver having a very catchable ball bounce off his hands, we never (well, if memory serves Lamb or some other receiver did say it was his fault once), why is it automatically all Dak's fault? Never a "wonder if the receiver ran the wrong route" etc. comment made. From what we've seen and heard Dak is not one to point fingers and throw his receivers under the bus if they screw up. So, if the int IS the fault of the receiver, we'll never know, it's probably dealt with in private with Dak, the receiver and maybe the coaches. Again, would it hurt to maybe broach the possibility?

But nooo, it's "Dak sucks" 95% of the time. It' just not something that I think true Cowboys fans should do. Any player that makes a boneheaded play should be criticized for that play, but for some person sitting on their sofa to sagely declare they absolutely know who screwed up when an int is thrown is just not thinking, but a knee jerk reaction....
 

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The John Elways, Peyton Mannings, Tom Bradys come around once every blue moon.
They make multiple Super Bowl appearances.
The rest of the teams have to make do with quarterbacks who aren't the elite of the elite.
But those quarterbacks make the Super Bowl too.
Dak is about as good as it's going to get for us for the foreseeable future.
So here's hoping the resiliency he brings and his comeback ability manifests itself in spades during the playoffs.
I mean, what else can we do but hope?
 

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I can’t believe people are afraid of the 9ers. Their QB is Brock Purdy. They aren’t built to win shootout games.
 

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The John Elways, Peyton Mannings, Tom Bradys come around once every blue moon.
They make multiple Super Bowl appearances.
The rest of the teams have to make do with quarterbacks who aren't the elite of the elite.
But those quarterbacks make the Super Bowl too.
Dak is about as good as it's going to get for us for the foreseeable future.
So here's hoping the resiliency he brings and his comeback ability manifests itself in spades during the playoffs.
I mean, what else can we do but hope?

After 26 years I don't even have hope. It's not a matter of "well, we're bound to win another SB at some point".
To wit: Detroit and Minnesota have never won a SB, both old time NFL teams. 56 and counting. Jets have won 1, 53 years since then. There is no law that states a team must win a SB, ever. It's sort of like the lady where I live years ago when the lottery came out, who said "My numbers have to come up sooner or later". But they don't have to.

I watch. And I wait. That's all I have left....
 

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Who else would you have...,,Rush can't hold his jock with e way are defense is playing now,,, let's go get Carr! Lol
I find it interesting that coaches don’t seem to love D.Carr, Gruden liked Marriotta (that speaks volumes) , McDaniels , a good offensive mind is putting up poor offensive numbers with him and turns the ball over as much as Dak without the returns. I don’t see coaches looking at Dak the same way.
 

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Can the boys win it all ? Yes
will they ? I don' think so

I'll go far as to say they won't.

Sorry to be Negative Nancy, but I am also honest, with the injuries to Brown and Lewis and Steele, Dak's current problem with turnovers, Moore's continuing head-scratching play calling, McCarthy being a SB winner (no coach has ever won a SB with two different teams), the failure of Quinn to solve the poor run defense, Dallas having to be on the road for all playoff games and lastly 26 years of futility winning the SB would be nothing short of a miracle, and miracles aren't all that common...
 

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Inconsistency is still his thing. Moments of greatness matched by moments of “ what the hell was that throw about?”…….and yes, I do recognize which ints are his fault and which aren’t but the picks are just one of several issues that still effect him. Decision making, making correct reads, and locking on to one receiver are a few of them

the great news is that a qb doesn’t have to be flawless if the rest of the team can hold up their end of things and I’m not trusting of them doing so as the playoffs begin.
 

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I find it interesting that coaches don’t seem to love D.Carr, Gruden liked Marriotta (that speaks volumes) , McDaniels , a good offensive mind is putting up poor offensive numbers with him and turns the ball over as much as Dak without the returns. I don’t see coaches looking at Dak the same way.
Good coordinators don't always make good head coaches.....they don't see the whole game
 
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