Dak Prescott balled out against Patriots

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Except for the Cardinals game, and we know what happened there, Dak and the offense has had it easy, thanks to their friends on defense.
the offense has not had it easy. They've had no issue moving the football. They've had issues in the red zone. Let's don't confuse the two.
 

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Dak threw a perfect pass into double, almost triple coverage to Schoonmaker in the endzone and Schoonmaker dropped it. He was throwing perfect passes under alot of pressure yesterday against a good defense. If I recall, he had one bad pass that could have been picked when he didn't see a linebacker drop back into coverage. I agree it will take a team effort next week. Hopefully Tyron is back and the team is at full strength.
I suggest you guys watch that replay in slow motion. It was not a perfect pass. When he releases it, schoon is angling back to the center of the end zone. Instead of hitting him in stride out front and at the same height to get over the DB, he throws it behind forcing schoon too slow down, jump and rotate around to catch it.

It was also bad placement because the other DB was on that side and close enough to intercept a deflection.

Stupid throw in double coverage.

You guys keep saying it was a Dime throw, lol. I know Dak better than you guys. That was a sloppy throw, he got lucky it wasn't intercepted. Yes schoon should have caught it.
 

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the offense has not had it easy. They've had no issue moving the football. They've had issues in the red zone. Let's don't confuse the two.
They are the same thing. If you have trouble in red zone you have trouble with your offense and moving the ball.
You want to cherry pick your stats.

In fact rather have great red zone td stats than "moving the ball" stats. It's only worked so far because our defense...and a good kicker. Offense needs better td rz scoring. Coffin needs more nails.
 

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Wow. Anybody impressed by Dak’s play against the Pats… what game were you watching?
 

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Dak took unnecessary sacks for holding the ball too long, threw into impossible coverage, and missed several open receivers. Dak was anything but a leader. If he doesn’t improve post-haste… Dallas needs to plan on his replacement. The clock is running out and Dak is NOT improving.
 

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He’s played much better than this and this is hardly balling out. They clearly have designed a very limiting and safe passing game for him. He can be much worse for sure but also much better. As others have stated, this upcoming game may require them to shed this shell and see what he can really do when forced out of their safe space. Calling this balling out will be an insult to his play if he is a big reason for a win at SF.
 

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Dak took unnecessary sacks for holding the ball too long, threw into impossible coverage, and missed several open receivers. Dak was anything but a leader. If he doesn’t improve post-haste… Dallas needs to plan on his replacement. The clock is running out and Dak is NOT improving.
Way too many facts out there to be guessing.


 

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I suggest you guys watch that replay in slow motion. It was not a perfect pass. When he releases it, schoon is angling back to the center of the end zone. Instead of hitting him in stride out front and at the same height to get over the DB, he throws it behind forcing schoon too slow down, jump and rotate around to catch it.

It was also bad placement because the other DB was on that side and close enough to intercept a deflection.

Stupid throw in double coverage.

You guys keep saying it was a Dime throw, lol. I know Dak better than you guys. That was a sloppy throw, he got lucky it wasn't intercepted. Yes schoon should have caught it.
The LB had leverage to the left and the safety was coming over the top. Hitting him stride doesnt work in every situation, the best option was to throw it high and make the TE highpoint the ball. Thats why teams get receivers that are so athletic, so they can high point the ball.
 

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Dak is great between the 20’s, no doubt. But he doesn’t ‘cash in’ when reaching the Red Zone. INDISPUTABLE.

I don’t mean to say ‘shut up’ … but there you have it.
 

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What’s the confusion?
"They've had no issue moving the football. They've had issues in the red zone"

What does that have anything to do with how the defense has literally handed the offense good field positions and also scored a few TDs themselves?
Having RZ issue is the offense's inability to execute their plays. The defense has done more than their share of work....not that anyone's counting.
Literally, the way the defense has been playing, except against AZ, if the offense don't turn the ball over, Cowboys stand more than a fair chance of winning games
Ergo, the offense has had it relatively easy, so far.
 

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"They've had no issue moving the football. They've had issues in the red zone"

What does that have anything to do with how the defense has literally handed the offense good field positions and also scored a few TDs themselves?
Having RZ issue is the offense's inability to execute their plays. The defense has done more than their share of work....not that anyone's counting.
Literally, the way the defense has been playing, except against AZ, if the offense don't turn the ball over, Cowboys stand more than a fair chance of winning games
Ergo, the offense has had it relatively easy, so far.
I guess I’m confused. The Cowboys are scoring at least a field goal on their possessions and is forcing teams to abandon the run. The game yesterday the defense got shredded up. The offense is the one that shredded them up for two possessions and forced them to start airing it out down 3-10 then the fumble came and it was 18-3.
 

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Schoonmaker dropped a touchdown. Its so weird guys are now taking out attempts because they are 5 yard throws? Brady made a living off this as did Drew Brees. Joe Montana.....not sure why its a issue now?
Brady led teams to multiple SB's. There were many times the patriots won because they had an amazing defense But I've never seen anyone proclaim his greatness because he threw 5 yards vs a crap team like the op has. Show me the year anyone you mentioned averaged 5yards in the air. Ridiculous. And honestly this isn't really on Dak he's just doing as he's told since he's never had this low of air yards in his career. But like I said I'm not celebrating a bunch of 5 yard passes that went nowhere.
 

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Brady led teams to multiple SB's. There were many times the patriots won because they had an amazing defense But I've never seen anyone proclaim his greatness because he threw 5 yards vs a crap team like the op has. Show me the year anyone you mentioned averaged 5yards in the air. Ridiculous. And honestly this isn't really on Dak he's just doing as he's told since he's never had this low of air yards in his career. But like I said I'm not celebrating a bunch of 5 yard passes that went nowhere.
I don’t know what the stats say. I’m just telling you what I’ve seen and that’s what Brady got fat on. Montana wasn’t airing it out. Hell Walsh didn’t ask him to.

The objective is to move the football. A 5 yard completion is just as effective as a 5 yard rush. Sure it was much funner winning games 33 to 26. It was great for fantasy purposes. But not sure if it’s a winning formula.
 

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I guess I’m confused. The Cowboys are scoring at least a field goal on their possessions and is forcing teams to abandon the run. The game yesterday the defense got shredded up. The offense is the one that shredded them up for two possessions and forced them to start airing it out down 3-10 then the fumble came and it was 18-3.
Okay.
The offense is great.
Better?
 

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I don’t know what the stats say. I’m just telling you what I’ve seen and that’s what Brady got fat on. Montana wasn’t airing it out. Hell Walsh didn’t ask him to.

The objective is to move the football. A 5 yard completion is just as effective as a 5 yard rush. Sure it was much funner winning games 33 to 26. It was great for fantasy purposes. But not sure if it’s a winning formula.
No you making it up to fit your narrative. You never seen Brady, breed, or Montana throw so many times behind the line or within 5 yards then proclaim how awesome they are. That's a lie.

The only reason this team scores 24+ points is if the defense scores TD's. That's called a fact. The one game the defense failed to score was a pretty ugly game, also fact. As long as the defense keeps scoring almost as much as the offense sure they'll win but it's not likely to stay at this pace. At some point the offense needs to step up and it's probably gonna need to do that against SF. Not that I'm doubting this defense.
 
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