Dak Prescott leads NFL in yards, TD passes, passer rating, CPOE, EPA, and success rate vs man coverage

Jipper

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Beat quality opponents??? He's 23-25 vs teams with winning records. I know you guys like to pretend he never led us past good teams to fit your narratives, but the record says different.
When was the last time he beat a top nfl team ( Philly last year with a backup is meh). Saying beating a team with a winning record is writing your own narrative

He doesn’t win in prime spots against prime competition.
 

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Yep, that's it.

That sounds like apportioning blame away from Dak again. He is paid to overcome these issues, to win a SB he'll have to succeed despite the mistakes of lesser team mates

So according to your logic, Dan Marino, Jim Kelly, Aaron Rodgers and Matthew Stafford has all failed careers, correct???


Rodgers is considered a great quarterback, but only won one Superbowl in his career and that was under McCarthy. That's the same amount of Superbowl wins won by Nick Foles and Trent Dilpher.

And Matthew Stafford has a record vs winning teams of 11-72, Matthew Stafford didn't win his first playoff game until his 12th year in the league..... and the year he did PARTICIPATE on a Superbowl winning team, he led the league in interceptions.

And yall said Stafford was a better quarterback than Dak... LOL!!! So why did it take him 12 years to win his first playoff game?? Why does he have a career winning percentage of 11-72 vs winning teams?? He's paid to overcome issues and the mistakes of lesser teammates, correct???

According to your logic, how is Rodgers one of the best quarterbacks to ever play with one Superbowl victory? He's paid to overcome issues and mistakes of lesser teammates, right?? That goes for Jim Kelly, Dan Marino and countless other quarterbacks who were considered great or elite, but failed to win when it mattered most. These are YOUR words.

I'm so glad you said this and there is no possible way you can backpedal out of this one.
 

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So according to your logic, Dan Marino, Jim Kelly, Aaron Rodgers and Matthew Stafford has all failed careers, correct???

I'm so glad you said this and there is no possible way you can backpedal out of this one.
Hang on a second didnt all the above reach a SB? Lets not forget that Dak hasnt yet won two consecutive play-off games.

.....and lets be fair you conveniently didnt quote the rest of what I said (though I bet you started writing before reading on...) ....just to recap I went on to say.....

"This is a really promising stretch of form and the incremental increase in opposition over the next few weeks is ideal for ramping up play for the end of season.....however, lets judge this at the end of the season as we've seen this 'midseason promise' film before and we know how it's ended."
 

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Actually doesn't surprise me. Less thinking and reading defenses....and more about just throwing at ur first read and let them make a play.

Dak is just better when you keep things simple.
Most QB’s are better against man. That’s why teams don’t blitz goid QB’s as often
 

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What's the matter? It bothers you for fans to be proud to have such a good QB? You sound as bad as the haters!
Right now, he’s playing the best football in the league. Anyone who doesn’t appreciate the way he’s playing have absolutely no clue how hard it is to do what he’s doing. Let me just say no clue at all.
 

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He had 2 drives to get it done and he didn't do it, it's more on him than anyone else.

We can agree to disagree but he is not a qb that can find a way to win against very good teams when it matters...and he has shown that time and time again
You have no idea. You really don’t.
 

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But Mahomes dragged his team back vrs the Eagles last year.....this isnt a constant, sometimes you can succeed, sometimes you fail......

However, in Dak's case he never appears to be able to drag the team when it needs a TD and the clocks running (unless you count the 3-13-1 Texans in 2022). The recent SFX2 Play-off games and now the recent Eagles game are prime examples where he's not able to function in that most crucial moments (indeed the Eagles game, upto the last 5 minutes he was outstanding and was able to overcame or put behind him any of those issues....but last five minutes he just isnt able to perform as in the SF games).

Im dug ??? Im dug in that I can see him playing well, however, im not anointing him until he can show that he can lead us to at least a couple of victories when he's come back from a deficit and/or a late TD win.....otherwise we're probably just going to fail as we havent the CAP to build a roster that can dominate the team (due mainly to a shaky O-Line).
first off dak isnt mahomes but Patrick didnt drag his team back his OL got healthy and the team returned to the game. The chiefs have a top 3 line by most pundits. And by all pundits they have a better TEAM. I would like dak to make a crucial comeback as well but my bigger preference is for the team to play well enough for him to not have to.

Id love for a Patrick Mahomes type QB come in here heck Id take any upgrade over dak as well but there is not 1 available and dak is who we have. I dont want to suck in effort to grab one either because theres no guarantee that who you pick is gonna pan out. Look at Wilson and Mac Jones heck Trevor Lawerence is even showing kinks

Ill keep dak and take my chances at building a roster around him and be in the mix every year. who knows the stars may align just right. I do not want to suck like the Giants have in a rebuild because I have no faith it will be done right anyway.
 

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Every player has strengths and weaknesses. The problem has been Dak reading zone/off receiver coverage. Look at the interception in the Giants game. The defender was basically sitting right there but because he wasn't actively chasing the WR Dak didn't see him or didn't see the threat. We have seen this a bunch of times over the last few years and how our offense struggled against it. SF plays zone and can get to the QB with 4. This is why they are the team hardest for us to beat and the biggest hurdle to post season success. When Dak rolls the defense breaks down and it is all in front of Dak and he sees it and reads it (and of course has been incredibly accurate on the move). Knowing this as we all do, the coaches need to keep the options simpler for him against these teams. Keep running motion to help him read it is zone. Run slants and crosses to run players through the zone and open up space behind them and at the same time help read if it's man or zone. We can see how this screws up our LBs and they end up chasing and lose their responsibility. I think Dak has shown over and over how he can be great most of the time and struggle in specific situations. It's never going to be easy against a defense like SF but I think we have the players to do it if we play well.
 

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Pic of Dak sucking in 1999 and the real reason we haven't won in 27 years.....


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Should've threw for 5 TD's that day.

Just looks like he couldn't care less. That's part of our losing culture. He knew he was gonna get paid and do jack squat. Smh
 

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Again, that's an unqualified stat. Now give us the stat on....when he's played winning teams, trailing by more than 3 points in the last 5 minutes.....
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Hang on a second didnt all the above reach a SB? Lets not forget that Dak hasnt yet won two consecutive play-off games.

.....and lets be fair you conveniently didnt quote the rest of what I said (though I bet you started writing before reading on...) ....just to recap I went on to say.....

"This is a really promising stretch of form and the incremental increase in opposition over the next few weeks is ideal for ramping up play for the end of season.....however, lets judge this at the end of the season as we've seen this 'midseason promise' film before and we know how it's ended."

Colin Kaepernick reached a Superbowl too. So according to your logic, he's on the same level as most of the great quarterbacks to have reached Superbowls and didn't win, correct?

I thought this was a team game but you helped me realize that no matter how bad a team, the ownership, or the coaching staff is.... its solely up to the quarterback to win a Superbowl. No matter what.

These are your words, correct???


You STILL didn't explain how Matthew Stafford could be better than Dak, but Dak won his first playoff game as a rookie and Stafford didn't win his first playoff game until his 12th year. Stafford's record vs winning teams is 11-72, Dak's is 23-25.

Why didn't Stafford have more Superbowl appearances in 11 years with the Lions??? You said a quarterback is supposed to overcome all situations with a team and overcome the mistakes of the lesser talented teammates correct??

These are your words, correct?? So what was Stafford's 11 year excuse in Detroit for failing to win a playoff game and reaching Superbowls?
 

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He had 2 drives to get it done and he didn't do it, it's more on him than anyone else.

We can agree to disagree but he is not a qb that can find a way to win against very good teams when it matters...and he has shown that time and time again
He’s shown it twice against the 49ers….
 

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first off dak isnt mahomes but Patrick didnt drag his team back his OL got healthy and the team returned to the game. The chiefs have a top 3 line by most pundits. And by all pundits they have a better TEAM. I would like dak to make a crucial comeback as well but my bigger preference is for the team to play well enough for him to not have to.

Id love for a Patrick Mahomes type QB come in here heck Id take any upgrade over dak as well but there is not 1 available and dak is who we have. I dont want to suck in effort to grab one either because theres no guarantee that who you pick is gonna pan out. Look at Wilson and Mac Jones heck Trevor Lawerence is even showing kinks

Ill keep dak and take my chances at building a roster around him and be in the mix every year. who knows the stars may align just right. I do not want to suck like the Giants have in a rebuild because I have no faith it will be done right anyway.
I'm not really arguing with most of that, other than realistically if we're paying such a high CAP hit on; Dak, Micak, CeeDee, Diggs and Daks deferred bonus we don't really have the CAP space for that big upgrade on the much needed O-Line.

This is the main basis for the emphasis on Dak to play up to the contract in the critical moments.
My every concern about Dak is his ability to lead the offense when trailing late....if he can prove that I'm with you, just at the moment he falls short (blame the team, but the ball is in his hands).
 

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Yep, that's it.

That sounds like apportioning blame away from Dak again. He is paid to overcome these issues, to win a SB he'll have to succeed despite the mistakes of lesser team mates, that's why he's paid the money.

This is a really promising stretch of form and the incremental increase in opposition over the next few weeks is ideal for ramping up play for the end of season.....however, lets judge this at the end of the season as we've seen this 'midseason promise' film before and we know how it's ended.
He may be paid to overcome these issues but it’s not possible. I literally just saw Josh Allen lose last night and Lamar lose on Sunday because of their teams. We for some reason hold Dak to a higher standard.
 

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I'm not really arguing with most of that, other than realistically if we're paying such a high CAP hit on; Dak, Micak, CeeDee, Diggs and Daks deferred bonus we don't really have the CAP space for that big upgrade on the much needed O-Line.

This is the main basis for the emphasis on Dak to play up to the contract in the critical moments.
My every concern about Dak is his ability to lead the offense when trailing late....if he can prove that I'm with you, just at the moment he falls short (blame the team, but the ball is in his hands).
Your cap hit on Dak is 20 million.
 

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I could care less about Daks stats. The only thing is can he do that in BIG games? Do that, take us to the promised land and then stats would take on more meaning to me as a whole.
 
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