Dak should be given two more seasons after this one to win

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He’s probably gonna get a 2-3 year extension I think
We already owe him money for two of those years
In a way you have to laugh at how delusional the front office are. I listed a whole host of teams who admitted to themselves that they had a QB that wouldn't win the big one so they blew their nose and moved on. The Raiders have now cottoned on yet the Vikings and Cowboys still stick by Cousins and Prescott. Let's see how that works out.
 

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Dak has exactly 2 more yrs left in this current deal . That will be 9 total . How many should Jerry and the family lawyer Tom Hagen need to decide ? Leave the cannolis ….take the football


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He is the franchise QB of the Dallas Cowboys.

Oulala did anyone say Man-Crush?
Dak is GOD!!!!
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Now don't go MIA once Dakko starts laying those playoff eggs.
We will miss your unique point of view concerning King Dak and his servants..... the Cowboys.
 

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Therein lay the issue. If you are unable to see that Prescott is on the same level as those guys - three solid NFL quarterbacks then you overrate him.

His stats are very similar to Cousins and when everything around them isn't perfect they both invariably fall apart. Carr has played on weaker teams than Prescott and his stats aren't too far off whilst Alex Smith played half his career when defenders could still hit a QB and at the 49ers - a very strong defensive team but not an explosive offense.
You’re entitled to your opinion as am I.
 

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Because it takes more than 1 person to win any gaomuch less a playoff game McFly.

They release/trade/don't re-sign players all of the time though, aren't you going to defend them and say "it takes more than 1 person to win?" Nah, that only applies to Dak.

Let's just give Dak all of the money and none of the blame. If Cowboys win it's because of Dak, if they lose it takes more than 1 person to win much less a playoff game McFly.

That should be the official narrative going forward, don't question it.
 

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They release/trade/don't re-sign players all of the time though, aren't you going to defend them and say "it takes more than 1 person to win?" Nah, that only applies to Dak.
It takes a team to win, not just 1 person. Last time I checked no QB’s play defense. And there are no player coaches. The fact you don’t get that is not surprising.
 

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The point is that all of the quarterbacks mentioned in my initial paragraph improved those teams. Aside from Stafford and Mahomes, Burrows reached a Superbowl, Jackson won MVP and Herbert/Lawrence are just getting into full swing whilst Allen is universally regarded as a top 5 QB in the league.
Prescott isn't a failure. Arguably his game and style is similar to a solid QB like Alex Smith - he wasn't good enough for the Chiefs to win a Superbowl so they moved on, drafted a QB and won the Superbowl.
But hey let's just stick with Prescott for the next 10 years as the last 8 years have been so wonderful.

Yea, this sounds like bias against Dak and not levelling the playing field. One can argue Dak has had more success than Jackson, Hurts, Herbert, and Lawrence - the 4 combined have 1 playoff win. I get a few of them haven't been here as long, but it's not reasonable to predict they'll end up having more success than Dak when it hasn't happened yet. Josh Allen also up till this point has only produced in the regular season, just like Dak. He got 2 wins in the playoffs in that Covid year against the Ravens and Colts. He got lucky he got 2 pretty unscary opponents. But besides that, Dak and Allen both need to beat some upper caliber teams in the playoffs, so I think they're in a similar boat. They can't beat the upper tier team. Dak can't get past Rodgers and the 49ers, like Allen can't get past Mahomes.

Well... the 10 years under Romo wasn't wonderful either. 9-7, 11-5, 1-5, 8-8, 8-8, and 8-8. 1 playoff appearance in 6 years. Like anyone, I'd like to break this playoff rut, but I truly don't see what Dak is doing that's so much worse than Romo and a lot of the other guys you named. Just my unbiased viewpoint. You'll have to produce a pretty good argument to argue that what Dak is doing is below Romo or some of the other guys, because it sure doesn't look that way to me.

Now I agree Dak isn't Mahomes, or hasn't done anything to the level of Mahomes, but to say he's Cousins, Carr, or Smith..... I get that it's your opinion and you're entitled to it, and that's fine, but........nah.
 

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How about for ONCE we see how Dak does with a great defense in the playoffs?
He's never had that, and neither did Tony Romo. That's usually what it takes to win a Super Bowl.

"For once" is right, that would be a big change. While some around here are spending all their energy on scapegoats, you just hit the nail on the head with the need for a great defense for a CHANGE!
Oh sure we could point out a few players with shortcomings and make them into scapegoats, but that still wouldn't produce the great defense this team really needs, and the only thing preventing that defense is the Jones family. They refuse to build the DL we so badly need and they have continuously failed to do so for years. A truly great defense would put this team in the Super Bowl and quite possibly win it.
 
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"For once" is right, that would be a big change. While some around here are spending all their energy on scapegoats, you just hit the nail on the head with the need for a great defense for a change!
Oh sure we could point out a few players with shortcomings and make them into scapegoats, but that still wouldn't produce the great defense this team really needs, and the only thing preventing that defense is the Jones family. They refuse to build the DL we so badly need and they have continuously failed to do so for years. A truly great defense would put this team in the Super Bowl and quite possibly win it.

Our QB threw 1 TD and 1 INT in a home game the last time we were in the playoffs. Is that our defenses fault?

The first playoff game he threw 3 TDs but it was to make a comeback that came up short which he often does, the next 3 playoff games he's averaged 1 TD per game. 6 TDs in 4 games is not very good. None of that is on our defense. If we were losing 35-32 games in the playoffs you got me (it happened in the Packers game only) but that's not what's happening in the others. Dak is coming up small.
 
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Our QB threw 1 TD and 1 INT in a home game the last time we were in the playoffs. Is that our defenses fault?The first playoff game he threw 3 TDs but it was to make a comeback that came up short which he often does, the next 3 playoff games he's averaged 1 TD per game. 6 TDs in 4 games is not very good. None of that is on our defense. If we were losing 35-32 games in the playoffs you got me (it happened in the Packers game only) but that's not what's happening in the others.
Dak is coming up small.

So are a number of players. It's not just 1 like some pretend. Not every Super Bowl winning team has had an elite QB. A strong defense is every bit as important if not more so. That may not fit your favorite narrative, but it's the truth.
 
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Our QB threw 1 TD and 1 INT in a home game the last time we were in the playoffs. Is that our defenses fault?

The first playoff game he threw 3 TDs but it was to make a comeback that came up short which he often does, the next 3 playoff games he's averaged 1 TD per game. 6 TDs in 4 games is not very good. None of that is on our defense. If we were losing 35-32 games in the playoffs you got me (it happened in the Packers game only) but that's not what's happening in the others. Dak is coming up small.

Brady threw 6 TDs in his first 6 playoff games and went 6-0 - with 2 Super Bowls. 6 TDs in 4 games is absolutely pretty good.
 

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I put some Dak only fans on ignore. If you have no expectations for our QB to win in the playoffs then you're not a real fan. I'm not saying don't be a fan of Dak but don't give him a free lifetime pass to come up small in the playoffs, or you don't really care about the Dallas Cowboys. The ones that won't even say Dak needs to do something in the playoffs are clowns. That is why the game is played nothing else really matters.
 

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Oulala did anyone say Man-Crush?
Dak is GOD!!!!
:muttley:

Now don't go MIA once Dakko starts laying those playoff eggs.
We will miss your unique point of view concerning King Dak and his servants..... the Cowboys.

Nah Dak is definitely not God, on or off the field. Not in my book anyway, but unfortunately his contract comes close. :muttley:
 
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It takes a team to win, not just 1 person. Last time I checked no QB’s play defense. And there are no player coaches. The fact you don’t get that is not surprising.
Dak's fumbles and interceptions are the equivalent of the defense giving up 4-5 points each time. Except for the pick-sixes; they are a full seven points.
They don't necessarily kill the team, but they do make it harder to win.
And each time he blows a drive on a bad pass, it's the equivalent of giving the opponents 4 extra minutes in time of possession.
That wears on the defense.
So Dak does affect the entire team with his play.
 

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For the record, even though Dak has been with the team 7 seasons, he's only played 6 full seasons in games due to missing 11.7 games of 2020 and 5.3 games of 2022. That should count as 6 full seasons in total games played, thus giving him 3 more seasons to play to win it all. :p;):D:cool:

Sorry, if Dallas hasn't made it to the NFC championship game by the time his contract expires, don't renew it with a new contract. Its really just that simple.
 

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He may not have a chance to take this team further than he could have against the 9ers last year...his brain cramp may have cost him no greater opportunity. That being said, our team is better now soooo.....
 

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I put some Dak only fans on ignore. If you have no expectations for our QB to win in the playoffs then you're not a real fan. I'm not saying don't be a fan of Dak but don't give him a free lifetime pass to come up small in the playoffs, or you don't really care about the Dallas Cowboys. The ones that won't even say Dak needs to do something in the playoffs are clowns. That is why the game is played nothing else really matters.
I've considered the ignore button for those Dak Zombies(as they test the realm of reality to the max) but they provide so many laughs that it would be a sin not to enjoy them.......:muttley:
 

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It would be 9 freaking years! , no freaking thanks. It is literally now or never.

If it didn't work for / with Dak in 7 there is no reason to think it will work in the 9th year. Besides, comparing to Carr is a low bar, Carr has a SB ring just because he was warming up the bench while backing Eli M with the Giants, but he never played a single snap that season, so unless you bench Dak and make him a backup of a SB winning QB there is no point in comparing.
I did a detailed list of our options salary cap wise a few months ago…He’s here next year no matter what. Just except it.
 

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Sorry, if Dallas hasn't made it to the NFC championship game by the time his contract expires, don't renew it with a new contract. Its really just that simple.
Dak becomes an unrestricted free agent in 2025, but his contract will still be on the books through the end of the 2026 season. If the team fails to reach an NFC Championship game from now through the end of the 2024 season, but Dak plays well enough in the playoffs (in other words, if the team fails in each playoff because of other parts/players of the team messing up), don't be surprised if Jerry keeps Dak and gives him a mini contract extension while they draft Dak's replacement and allow Dak to help coach him up for around the 2026 season or after. That's 4+ more seasons from now. Hope you prepare for that most likely scenario. It's just really that simple.
 

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Brady threw 6 TDs in his first 6 playoff games and went 6-0 - with 2 Super Bowls. 6 TDs in 4 games is absolutely pretty good.

I'm not a big Dak fan but this is a good post and I always used this reasoning with Romo. Brady has also won three playoff games when throwing at least 3 INT's.

Three! That's hard to believe he won those games. He's great - but he's also very fortunate.
 
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