Dak should be given two more seasons after this one to win

[G2]

CORRECT!!!

@MountaineerCowboy on purpose twists one's words/meanings around to use to bash you. Troll to the definition.

It couldn't be more obvious.

 

[G2]

Why have I never seen even one disclaimer from you that says "Dak is great, but he does need to win in the playoffs" You don't even seem to care about Super Bowls, you care about defending Dak.

Same goes for all of you that are attacking me for making a common sense thread that would apply to any QB in the NFL and you turn it into a Dak hate thread, it isn't but believe what you want it's really a common sense thread.

5 QBs have won their first Super Bowl in their 30s, just 5. That's not very many in the history of the NFL. Dak will be 30 before next season starts.

Come on let's use more sense and less emotions.

Because that's a team accolade, not JUST the QB.
Wake up.

 

[G2]

So do you have it as fact that Dak isn;t changing out of running plays to passing plays and instead want to blame Moore?

There's clear and factual evidence that he changed into a run plays. Do you have any idea at what frequency?

 

[Hadenough]

Dak's problem is he is not Elite and he will never be forgiven for not being elite....

But yet he wants elite money!

 

[Xeven]

One of greatest of all time never won a Super Bowl. Dan Marino played 17 years at Miami with only one AFC Championship to his name.

 

[Xeven]

Rodgers' only Super Bowl win came in 2010 (Super Bowl XLV). Aaron Rodgers made three touchdown passes in the Super Bowl XLV game against the Pittsburgh Steelers. However, ever since his Super Bowl win, Rodgers has not made it to any other Super Bowls and his playoff record since then is 7-9.

 

[Doomsday101]

These threads crack me up, so if Dak gets more than 2 years what people will complain? lol

 

[GINeric]

So do you have it as fact that Dak isn;t changing out of running plays to passing plays and instead want to blame Moore?

Well I'm sure Dak has changed out of plays, but here's the catch.... we've made the same dumb mistakes of NOT running the ball at times we should have been running the ball when Cooper Rush was starting.

Do you think Dak was responsible for changing those calls while wearing a cast and no headset on the sidelines??

 

[Blitzen]

Kyle Shannon is a good offensive coordinator. If his team is averaging 5, 6 yards a run, he'll keep gutting you because it's working and the defense can't stop it.

Byron Leftwich is a good offensive coordinator. If the Buccaneers are averaging 5, 6 yards a run, he'll keep gutting you because it's working and the defense can't stop it.

If the Packers, Rams, Ravens, Patriots, Titans, Browns, etc. are averaging 5, 6 yards a run, they will keep gutting you because it's working and the defense can't stop it!!!

You know what Kellen Moore does when we're averaging 5, 6 yards a run??? The dummy would start calling trick plays and more pass plays. He has ZERO in game and situational awareness.

And yet the offense has been a top ranked unit for the years with Kellen as OC. The players aren’t taking matters into their own hands all the time. Dak is given a run/pass play and gets to decide which fits best for the situation. Dak has made some bone headed plays at the end of games recently. One that cost them in Jacksonville in regulation.

 

[Swagger]

Yea, this sounds like bias against Dak and not levelling the playing field. One can argue Dak has had more success than Jackson, Hurts, Herbert, and Lawrence - the 4 combined have 1 playoff win. I get a few of them haven't been here as long, but it's not reasonable to predict they'll end up having more success than Dak when it hasn't happened yet. Josh Allen also up till this point has only produced in the regular season, just like Dak. He got 2 wins in the playoffs in that Covid year against the Ravens and Colts. He got lucky he got 2 pretty unscary opponents. But besides that, Dak and Allen both need to beat some upper caliber teams in the playoffs, so I think they're in a similar boat. They can't beat the upper tier team. Dak can't get past Rodgers and the 49ers, like Allen can't get past Mahomes.

Well... the 10 years under Romo wasn't wonderful either. 9-7, 11-5, 1-5, 8-8, 8-8, and 8-8. 1 playoff appearance in 6 years. Like anyone, I'd like to break this playoff rut, but I truly don't see what Dak is doing that's so much worse than Romo and a lot of the other guys you named. Just my unbiased viewpoint. You'll have to produce a pretty good argument to argue that what Dak is doing is below Romo or some of the other guys, because it sure doesn't look that way to me.

Now I agree Dak isn't Mahomes, or hasn't done anything to the level of Mahomes, but to say he's Cousins, Carr, or Smith..... I get that it's your opinion and you're entitled to it, and that's fine, but........nah.

When the Bills beat the Colts in the play offs, it was largely thanks to an exceptional performance by Josh Allen. He was the main reason his team won that game and realistically games are won by teams but they badly needed his legs and arm as they had a bad o line and no running game. Only Mahomes and maybe Rodgers would have also won that game given their skill sets. Allen was pretty pedestrian against the Ravens and then had no chance realistically against the Chiefs given their lack of pass rush, bad o line and no running game. The Colts had an old Rivers but they had a very good team - far stronger than the pitiful Seattle team that Prescott and the Cowboys beat in the play offs.

I disagree that Allen is unable to beat the Chiefs. Firstly, he doesn't play defense - he was fantastic against the Chiefs in the play offs last season. He played more than well enough to win but the defense couldn't hold on for what 20 seconds and from memory it went to overtime and he wasn't given a chance to win the game. The Bills took care of the Chiefs this season and might face them in the play offs this season. Let's see how he gets on.

The Ravens have assigned too many resources to their defense and that's the main reason for their post season struggles in an offensive minded era. Jackson hasn't had a whole lot of help.

Prescott is in his what 8th or 9th season - it's not really sensible to compare him with the likes of Hurts, Lawrence or Herbert given they haven't been in the league very long. Let's judge those guys with Prescott in 5 years.

You make an excellent point about the team record under Romo and it also helps explain how many bad teams he had to play including a historically awful defense. In terms of play off losses - the o line was obliterated against the Vikings - no QB in the history of football would have won that game, Crayton stopped his route for a walk in game winning TD against the Giants and first Murrey fumbled when looking set for a TD before failed to secure the catch against the Packers. Romo can be blamed for not securing the ball when holding a snap for a field goal against the Seahawks but those weren't quarterbacking duties and why on earth was he even doing the holding. Imagine Mahomes or Rodgers doing the same in a play off game these days. It's laughable.

Prescott in the play offs. Packers had one of the worst secondaries in the history of the play offs - they should have been torched from the first drive onwards not towards the end of the 2nd quarter. Not his fault but an idiotic decision by the front office to play a rookie QB against that secondary with an All Pro vet QB known for shredding such defenses sitting on the bench. People blame the defense but they played much better in the second half and sometimes you have to be good enough to win a shootout. The Falcons dropped 44 points on that Packers secondary the week after (could have put over 50 points on the board if required). Eagles dropped 41 points on the Patriots to win the Superbowl. Obviously you want a D to step up more but occasionally you need your QB to get it done in a shoot out - like Prescott finally did against the Eagles this season albeit with the opposition fielding a backup QB.

No issue with Prescott when the Rams beat the Cowboys. The rush D was non existent and wasn't stopping anybody.

However, a better QB would have got it done against the 49ers last season in regulation playing conditions. He had enough drives in the 4th quarter behind a largely healthy o line and enough weapons around him. The default response by Prescott fans is to compare how Rodgers played against the 49ers defense a week later - a special teams affair played in extreme conditions behind a decimated o line. The Cowboys o line was like the great wall of China in comparison. The best excuse would be to blame the receiver for not making another circus catch on the final drive - Wilson from memory but it wasn't as if it was a regulation walk in TD straight into the bread basket.

Smith won 2 play off games, Cousins has won a play off game whilst Derek Carr hasn't been on a good team to be fair.

So in summary, we should be getting more bang for our buck from Prescott. It will be interesting how he gets on should the Cowboys face Tampa Bay away. If the Cowboys lose then how many more chances will they give Prescott?

 

[MyFairLady]

Rodgers' only Super Bowl win came in 2010 (Super Bowl XLV). Aaron Rodgers made three touchdown passes in the Super Bowl XLV game against the Pittsburgh Steelers. However, ever since his Super Bowl win, Rodgers has not made it to any other Super Bowls and his playoff record since then is 7-9.

LOL what are you trying to say? After winning the superbowl he has made the playoffs basically every year and has 7 more playoff wins. Is this supposed to be bad or something? I dream of this level of success for Dak. It would not be a disappointment thats for sure.

 

[GINeric]

LOL what are you trying to say? After winning the superbowl he has made the playoffs basically every year and has 7 more playoff wins. Is this supposed to be bad or something? I dream of this level of success for Dak. It would not be a disappointment thats for sure.

Well Rodgers is labeled as the top 2 greatest quarterbacks in history.... so shouldn't someone with that label have more than ONE Superbowl ring???

I think I would dream of Dak winning more than just one for our team's sake.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

But yet he wants elite money!

what is elite money? right now he is 8th highest paid...elite is top 2 or 3....so what's elite.

just a lame, weak argument from Dak haters. mostly because they don't understand how NFL works or don't care, because they have something to attack on

 

[GINeric]

But yet he wants elite money!

There are many quarterbacks in the league who are making elite money. Besides Mahomes, Brady, Rodgers, and Josh Allen.... which quarterback is earning their "elite" money??? Or is Dak the only quarterback in the league with elite money but isn't elite??

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

They'll use "WE HAVE THE #1 OFFENSE IN THE NFL" to defend Dak and in the same sentence they say "FIRE KELLEN MOORE".

They are just Dak fans.

They will use, "but look at all the interceptions" to bash dak and in the same breath ignore the number 1 scoring offense in the league.

they are just Bash Dak over Dallas crowd

 

[MountaineerCowboy]

They will use, "but look at all the interceptions" to bash dak and in the same breath ignore the number 1 scoring offense in the league.

they are just Bash Dak over Dallas crowd

Imagine being okay with the QB leading the NFL in INTS despite missing 5 games.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

One of greatest of all time never won a Super Bowl. Dan Marino played 17 years at Miami with only one AFC Championship to his name.

one of the greatest QBs. elevated the team, never had enough around him to win it all....but there are those who say they prefer Dilfer over Marino, because you know, after the fact Dilfer won a superbowl and Marino didn't.

I asked them if neither had a superbowl and you had a choice to take one which one would you take....I have never heard anything back.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

Imagine being okay with the QB leading the NFL in INTS despite missing 5 games.

Imagine hating a QB leading the team to #2 scoring team in the league despite missing 5 games and team being 27th at the time...

like I said, you have shown you don't know much about football, its a bottom line stat you always look at to make an argument.

you have exposed yourself. willingly

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

There are many quarterbacks in the league who are making elite money. Besides Mahomes, Brady, Rodgers, and Josh Allen.... which quarterback is earning their "elite" money??? Or is Dak the only quarterback in the league with elite money but isn't elite??

they loved Watson. and he has all these rings and things and he is so good to be a top 5 paid QB in the league.

 

[GINeric]

like I said, you are a Bash Dak fan over Dallas. you want cowboys to lose in the playoffs so you can start your bashing.

I bet you will disappear for a good while if Cowboys end up in the superbowl.

He and a couple others run and hide like cowards when we win with Dak under center.... but when we lose, these same mouth breathing, basement dwellers post all week until their finger tips bleed.

That's just why they are what I always call them.