Dak should be given two more seasons after this one to win

[Jayinem]

I'm not a big Dak fan but this is a good post and I always used this reasoning with Romo. Brady has also won three playoff games when throwing at least 3 INT's.

Three! That's hard to believe he won those games. He's great - but he's also very fortunate.

Brady is still 86 TDs to 39 INTs in the playoffs. That's pretty great.

Let's say he lost those 3 games so what? He's still the GOAT. His name should not even be mentioned in a Dak thread.

 

[PAPPYDOG]

Dak becomes an unrestricted free agent in 2025, but his contract will still be on the books through the end of the 2026 season. If the team fails to reach an NFC Championship game from now through the end of the 2024 season, but Dak plays well enough in the playoffs (in other words, if the team fails in each playoff because of other parts/players of the team messing up), don't be surprised if Jerry keeps Dak and gives him a mini contract extension while they draft Dak's replacement and allow Dak to help coach him up for around the 2026 season or after. That's 4+ more seasons from now. Hope you prepare for that most likely scenario. It's just really that simple.

Priceless!!!!

 

[Jayinem]

Priceless!!!!

This would be Dak.

 

[GINeric]

Maybe Moore has been handicapped by Dak. I'd like to see Moore with a better QB.

Smart coordinators stick to what's working. There have been games where our running game has started out hitting for 5 or 6 yards a clip.... then Kellen Moore starts calling pass plays as the defense gets wore down.

You know what intelligent offensive coordinators do in situations like that??? THEY KEEP RUNNING THE BALL until you show you can stop it!!

But not Kellen Moore!!! This dummy will call two straight pass plays on 2nd, 3rd and inches to go. But I like your faith in Kellen Moore. Too bad other NFL teams don't see what you see.

If Dak and Kellen Moore both were cut today, who do you think would be hired by an NFL team first???

That's right, it would be Dak.....

 

[GINeric]

wow, so the dumbest O coordinator has led the top scoring offense in the last two seasons, all while being a moron. Thats pretty amazing.

That's because there are talented and smarter players overcoming that clown's lack of awareness. If Moore was so special, where are all the teams who's clamoring for his services???

 

[GINeric]

I like you better after your middle paragraph. You do value postseason success more than regular season success.

Kellen has been the offensive coordinator of these top offenses in recent seasons. Give the guy some credit-he is obviously not as bad as you portray him. Not like Dak goes out there and starts calling all the shots and succeeds despite Kellen’s input.

Drew only played 1 game his initial season, so you can remove that season too. He joined New Orleans and they promptly went to the NFCCG. Detroit is hopefully a franchise that this team never wants to call a standard threshold (at least for that time period). Lots of coaching restarts and flux in the front office-recipe for disaster.

I really like Dan Campbell’s philosophy in building on the lines of scrimmage and making the team understand it’s about gutting it out every day. I feel they will give Green Bay a really tough game and may win it. The unfortunate thing is the way the league scheduled it though. If Seattle wins their game, then the Lions are eliminated from playoff contention before the game begins.

Kyle Shannon is a good offensive coordinator. If his team is averaging 5, 6 yards a run, he'll keep gutting you because it's working and the defense can't stop it.

Byron Leftwich is a good offensive coordinator. If the Buccaneers are averaging 5, 6 yards a run, he'll keep gutting you because it's working and the defense can't stop it.

If the Packers, Rams, Ravens, Patriots, Titans, Browns, etc. are averaging 5, 6 yards a run, they will keep gutting you because it's working and the defense can't stop it!!!

You know what Kellen Moore does when we're averaging 5, 6 yards a run??? The dummy would start calling trick plays and more pass plays. He has ZERO in game and situational awareness.

 

[Hadenough]

NFL GMs feel the QB is the most important position towards achieving NFL team success. They have the largest share of responsibility towards team success and are paid the largest share of the teams finances. This is a standard part of being the starting QB in the NFL.
Everything else is window dressing. Downplaying or minimizing the QB's role in team success is simple economics.
He can either perform his job well without having to have an all star cast at most positions or he can't.

Dak Prescott is no different.
He is on year 7 and if not for this year's early season team defense and backup QB play and playcalling for the first half of the season, this team would not be where it's at based on his inconsistent performance.

He peaked as a rookie unfortunately. His oline , rookie RB and his own ability to run were the main contributors to that success.
None of those contributors are as effective anymore. Nor is he.

To give him the Jason Garrett 10 year learning plan treatment is stupid at this point.
He needs extreme, as in historical support, from both the defense and running game to ever taste any postseason success.

He's a complimentary QB.
Not an elite one whose performance can carry a team regardless of other team warts.

This is so true! Unfortunately we have to watch players careers go to waste as they play their tail off while Dak is still trying to learn to read defenses.

 

[Runwildboys]

Not really, since we currently have no contingency plan, since we do not believe in investing draft stock on competing/future starting QBs.
Love or hate Dak doesn't even matter, Dak will be here for a while even after the FO finally drafts a future replacement.

What draft stock? We never pick high enough to try for one of the more likely to be elite QBs. We'd have to sell off future 1st rounders to move up enough to risk it.

 

[USArmyVet]

That's because there are talented and smarter players overcoming that clown's lack of awareness. If Moore was so special, where are all the teams who's clamoring for his services???

Dak's stats before Moore became OC (48 games):

975 of 1,475 66.1% Comp % 10,876 yards 7.37 ypa 67 TD's 25 INT's 32 wins 16 losses .667 win %


Dak's stats after Moore became OC (48 games):

1,196 of 1,771 67.5% Comp % 13,939 yards 7.87 ypa 98 TD's 39 INT's 29 wins 19 losses .604 win %


So for those who say that Moore has not had an impact on Dak's stats (not necessarily the teams win %) then I suppose we are looking at different stats. While I have been a detractor of Dak's, and I do not think Moore is NFL head coach material, to say he sucks as an OC is simply ignorant.

 

[USArmyVet]

Kyle Shannon is a good offensive coordinator. If his team is averaging 5, 6 yards a run, he'll keep gutting you because it's working and the defense can't stop it.

Byron Leftwich is a good offensive coordinator. If the Buccaneers are averaging 5, 6 yards a run, he'll keep gutting you because it's working and the defense can't stop it.

If the Packers, Rams, Ravens, Patriots, Titans, Browns, etc. are averaging 5, 6 yards a run, they will keep gutting you because it's working and the defense can't stop it!!!

You know what Kellen Moore does when we're averaging 5, 6 yards a run??? The dummy would start calling trick plays and more pass plays. He has ZERO in game and situational awareness.

So do you have it as fact that Dak isn;t changing out of running plays to passing plays and instead want to blame Moore?

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

I am old school in tha teams expect results in 5 years. At least, chap, in sane organizations.
Blimey! in 7 years, Dak has ONE career playoff win (a real stat for you no-one-is-a-team babblers) and, of course, no Super Bowl bling.
15-20 years in the NFL, old boy?
9 years for Dak in Dallas?
i feel like slapping you like in Europe!

and Romo? and the ones before him. but I guess the past 27 years can some how be blamed on Dak....I guess he jinxed cowboys when he was born....

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

The point is that all of the quarterbacks mentioned in my initial paragraph improved those teams. Aside from Stafford and Mahomes, Burrows reached a Superbowl, Jackson won MVP and Herbert/Lawrence are just getting into full swing whilst Allen is universally regarded as a top 5 QB in the league.
Prescott isn't a failure. Arguably his game and style is similar to a solid QB like Alex Smith - he wasn't good enough for the Chiefs to win a Superbowl so they moved on, drafted a QB and won the Superbowl.
But hey let's just stick with Prescott for the next 10 years as the last 8 years have been so wonderful.

Dak is not elite. there is no arguing there. but that's what everyone wants. Mahomes, Burrows, both elite and we are comparing Dak to those. I don't like Jackson. MVP is irrelevant. his playoff performance is 1-3, yet here are people who complain about Dak's playoff performance. Herbert is perhaps up and coming, but he hasn't done much yet. so why is everyone so much in love? and Lawrence and Burrows both were #1 over all picks.

and people tend to forget that despite those players, 4 out of 5 first round QBs failed. how about Bake Mayfield? wilson? Turbiskey? Rosen followed by Murray, the #1 over all pick? Darnold? Goff? Wentz? and so on....

you have to get lucky to find that elite QB and lets not forget Mahomes dropped to 12th and there were question marks about him and Turbiskey was universally the better prospect.

to have a chance, you have to be in top 10 or get lucky and have top 2 pick and on top of that a year where a top prospect is coming out, ala Burrows or Lawrence. because you can end up with a Turbiskey or Mayfield.

with that said, having an Elite QB is not the only way to get to the superbowl or win it. its not a guarantee. a lot of the superbowl teams get there with an above average QB, they just know how to build a team. lets not forget, Rodgers was universally regarded as a great QB, but he didn't make it to the superbowl until he had a top 5 defense.

and do we trust this management to pick the right QB? lets not forget Jones was smitten with Manziel and he was ready to trade up and draft Lynch. imagine if wer had those two instead. perhaps then we might have ended up in the top 5, or get the top pick and end up with Lawrence or Burrows, only to ruin their career by focusing on Jersey sales instead

 

[Adiba1977]

One more year that’s it. But not sure dumb and dumber would get rid of him

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

Our QB threw 1 TD and 1 INT in a home game the last time we were in the playoffs. Is that our defenses fault?

The first playoff game he threw 3 TDs but it was to make a comeback that came up short which he often does, the next 3 playoff games he's averaged 1 TD per game. 6 TDs in 4 games is not very good. None of that is on our defense. If we were losing 35-32 games in the playoffs you got me (it happened in the Packers game only) but that's not what's happening in the others. Dak is coming up small.

actually, we won the playoff game against Seattle. but hey what does that matter.

and we did tie the game against GB...and he was a Rookie!!!! seriously.... and defense gave up not one, but three big plays to allow GB to get into field goal position. but hey come back fell short, so lets point fingers.

and the defense gave up 250 yards rushing.....let that sink in. 250 yards rushing against the rams....and we still made it within striking distance in the end, but the defense again gave up ton of rushing yards to allow rams to run out the clock.

the SF game last year was a debacle. that wasn't a good game by Dak. I won't argue that.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

Brady threw 6 TDs in his first 6 playoff games and went 6-0 - with 2 Super Bowls. 6 TDs in 4 games is absolutely pretty good.

yeah, lets all complain why Dak isn't the GOAT!!! geez folks.... show me who can compare to Brady? not even the great Rodgers and Manning could compare to Brady.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

Dak's fumbles and interceptions are the equivalent of the defense giving up 4-5 points each time. Except for the pick-sixes; they are a full seven points.
They don't necessarily kill the team, but they do make it harder to win.
And each time he blows a drive on a bad pass, it's the equivalent of giving the opponents 4 extra minutes in time of possession.
That wears on the defense.
So Dak does affect the entire team with his play.

so a QB is not allowed to have bad throws? every throw has to be good? every drive has to end in scoring? no QB should ever be allowed to not convert a 3rd down.

what you say is totally unrealistic and very madden driven mentality.

tells me your limited football knowledge.....you expose your lack of football understanding, all by yourself.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

I've considered the ignore button for those Dak Zombies(as they test the realm of reality to the max) but they provide so many laughs that it would be a sin not to enjoy them.......

I hope Dak gets an extension for $950M.....

 

[MountaineerCowboy]

Why have I never seen even one disclaimer from you that says "Dak is great, but he does need to win in the playoffs" You don't even seem to care about Super Bowls, you care about defending Dak.

Same goes for all of you that are attacking me for making a common sense thread that would apply to any QB in the NFL and you turn it into a Dak hate thread, it isn't but believe what you want it's really a common sense thread.

5 QBs have won their first Super Bowl in their 30s, just 5. That's not very many in the history of the NFL. Dak will be 30 before next season starts.

Come on let's use more sense and less emotions.

Because to Dak over Dallas fans he doesn't need to win anything in the playoffs.

The playoffs is just extra games they get to watch Dak play in.

 

[MountaineerCowboy]

So do you have it as fact that Dak isn;t changing out of running plays to passing plays and instead want to blame Moore?

They'll use "WE HAVE THE #1 OFFENSE IN THE NFL" to defend Dak and in the same sentence they say "FIRE KELLEN MOORE".

They are just Dak fans.

 

[PAPPYDOG]

Quit making up lies, clown.

You better start following the CFL/USFL as I fear that is the only League that will be interested in gimpo inept Prescott when he gets the boot from Jerry and Sons.