Dak vs Deshaun Watson

Hawkeye0202 said:
Tough call but Dak's intangibles give him a slight edge IMO. Honestly, I'd have no problem with Watson as my franchise QB if we didn't have Dak, it's that close.



Dak stats:
https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/P/PresDa01.htm

Watson stats:
https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/W/WatsDe00.htm

Dak contract:
https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/dallas-cowboys/dak-prescott-19089/

Watson contract:
https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/houston-texans/deshaun-watson-21753/
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We’ve had over a 1,000 Dak threads this offseason. It’s just a regurgitation of the past. The haters, who we all know who they are, will hate. The more NFL savy fans will put them in their place. Just like every Dak thread.
 
MountaineerCowboy said:
If you take Watson's seasons and average them out and then give him an imaginary 16 games worth of stats to make using career numbers somewhat fair then Watson's will be ahead of Dak is pretty much everything. It won't be very comparable. Watson's numbers would easily be better.

The only thing making this comparable right now is the fact that Dak has 16 more games worth of stats on Watson.
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Well right now they are comparable. I don't take all of this stats an accumulation and base it on that. I base where both QBs at in this moment. Dak's trajectory is trending up. While there are major issues that Watson has to deal with. Bad team, can't get along with management, and looming lawsuits, etc.

Watson can keep his dirty laundry. I'll take Dak, his weapons, his leadership and he's willingness to improve each and every year.
 
Hawkeye0202 said:
Tough call but Dak's intangibles give him a slight edge IMO. Honestly, I'd have no problem with Watson as my franchise QB if we didn't have Dak, it's that close.



Dak stats:
https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/P/PresDa01.htm

Watson stats:
https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/W/WatsDe00.htm

Dak contract:
https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/dallas-cowboys/dak-prescott-19089/

Watson contract:
https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/houston-texans/deshaun-watson-21753/
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Dak is more the thinker.
DeShaun is more hands on.
 
ghst187 said:
i agree Watson is more naturally talented and athletic but from what I can tell Dak is better leader and I’ve always thought a bit more steady in play overall.
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Dude what talent? Dak has the better arm and can beat him 24/7. Dude can’t even come to close at dissecting defense as Dak.
 
Dak_Attack_09 said:
Dude what talent? Dak has the better arm and can beat him 24/7. Dude can’t even come to close at dissecting defense as Dak.
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Watson was about as close to Michael Vick as they had been when he came into the league.
Not saying he was that good but he was electric. I love Watson’s abilities but I like Dak as our starting QB more. It may not matter if Watsons career gets derailed by this off field stuff, sadly.
 
DakPresgoat said:
I can see an argument to be made for each one.

Anyone who is saying “it isn’t close” is just showing their truly agenda driven and don’t care about the actual reality though.

because their overall ability on the football field is close.
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you win championships by passing better

Watson is a significantly better passer. Just look at the numbers posted by Aerolithe in the thread. And this is despite Dak having a way way better OL and receiving core and RB
 
Aerolithe_Lion said:
Accuracy

Deshaun Watson is the single most accurate Quarterback who's ever lived. No, Seriously.

Quarterback Accuracy, Career

Dak's up there too, but not where Deshaun is. And Dak's accuracy is actually going down as he's asked to throw it more. 65.9% his last 2 years, vs 67.8% his rookie year.


Proficiency

Proficiency is the point where efficiency meets prolificity. We've established Deshaun is highly accurate, but in 2020 he had a historically prolific season as well. He completed 70% of his passes in 2020, which does seem to be a recurring achievement amongst QBs the last 5 years or so. But not at the crazy rate he was doing it: Deshaun Watson led the entire NFL in yards per attempt in 2020, at 8.9 It is the highest yards per attempt for a 70% completion passer in NFL history. He wasn't dinking and dunking, he wasn't playing it safe, he was straight up bombing the ball downfield... and maintaining 70%. For comparison's sake, Drew Brees never had a YPA season higher than 8.3.

Additionally, Deshaun didn't exactly have a Dallas offense around him. The only team's QB's who were sacked more than DW were Wentz/Hurts. 31st in pass protection. Texans were also 31st in rushing yards, you knew what they were going to do on offense. Also don't forget this is the season AFTER they traded away the NFL's best WR. Led league in ypa, yards, completion percentage. Drew Brees is the only other quarterback in NFL history to throw for 4800+ yards in a season at 70% completion. For comparison, Dak's 4900 season in 2019 was at a 65% clip. Craziest part of this stat is Deshaun was only 13th in attempts! He is the only QB in NFL history to lead the league in passing yards despite not being in the top 10 in attempts. In a season where Brady played like he did, Rodgers played like he did, Mahomes played like he did, it's pretty nuts.

Deep Ball Passing

We'll stick to 2019 for this one, as it was Dak's last full season, Dak's best season, and not Deshaun's impossible 2020 to make it fairer. Dak was heralded for his deep ball passing in 2019, being amongst the league's leaders, but lets look at how that played out a little deeper.

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Above we see Deshaun amongst the top of the league in deep ball accuracy, but Dak is actually not too far behind. However, this is a list of 20 yards or greater, what is generally considered a deep ball. If we move the sticks to 30+ yards, it looks a bit different:

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Deshaun remains amongst the most accurate QB's at throwing the deeper passes (far right column), while Dak drops all the way between Jacoby Brissett and Mitchell Trubisky. If you notice the green column in the middle, thats passes between 20-30 yards, and Dak's completion percentage there is unusually high... that's what's inflating his overall deep completion percentage. If you want a 23 yard post, Dak is as good as any. But if you want to go for the big one... also notice Deshaun has 20 completions of 20+ yards in 2019, easily the most of anyone. He's really good at it and he knows it.



Probably some other categories where Deshaun looks pretty good, but these are the 3 that stand out the most to me.
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Pretty Interesting read! What makes this really shocking is Watson seems like he is always running for his life. I would like to see what Watson could do with the Dallas offense.
 
ConstantReboot said:
Well right now they are comparable. I don't take all of this stats an accumulation and base it on that. I base where both QBs at in this moment. Dak's trajectory is trending up. While there are major issues that Watson has to deal with. Bad team, can't get along with management, and looming lawsuits, etc.

Watson can keep his dirty laundry. I'll take Dak, his weapons, his leadership and he's willingness to improve each and every year.
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"Well right now they are comparable"

The fact that you can say this with Dak having 16 more games worth of stats should tell you who the better player is.
 
Hadenough said:
Pretty Interesting read! What makes this really shocking is Watson seems like he is always running for his life. I would like to see what Watson could do with the Dallas offense.
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If Dak and Watson would've switched teams 4 years ago we'd have a ring by now.
 
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