Dak vs Wentz comparison thread **merged**

[CowboyRoy]

Watching Wentz last night I still see the same things I noticed during the draft.
1. He still has the ability to diagnostic defenses and adjust the play call.
2. He sees all the options at passing and find the open receiver.
3. He has the outstanding ability to set his offensive personnel.
4. He can knock the eye out of a squirrel at 80 yards on the run.
5. He is already at a veteran level at game management for 4 quarters.

Dak is still a rookie who needs coaching support
1. He is a pretty good passer but does not have Wentz touch passing ability.
2. He has pretty good awareness of his receivers but sees only to his second maybe third option.
3. Dak is a better runner than Wentz.
4. Dak still needs time studying game tape to notice how defenses scheme and set up for him.

As Rookies at QB I have Wentz as an "A". I have Dak at a B+ or A-. The rest are not up to these two in NFL talent yet (Goff).

OK, shoot!

I like both QB's very much. I will take Dak by a hair at this point.

 

[Denim Chicken]

DAK
47/75 | 62.7% comp | 519 yards | 6.92 avg | 0 TD | 0 INT (18 rush | 1 TD)

WENTZ
43/71 | 60.6% comp | 468 yards | 6.59 avg | 3 TD | 0 INT (11 rush | 1 fumble)

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Im sure Wentz is more polished, but he has played 2 of the worst teams in the league. Cleveland isnt fielding an NFL team and chicago isnt a whole lot better.

Hes gonna have a rough time against Pittsburgh next week. That will be an interesting test for him.

I'm not sure Wentz is more polished. I'll take accuracy and pocket presence, both of which are hard to teach, over the pretty spiral every day and twice on Sundays.

 

[CATCH17]

I was VERY impressed with Wentz last night. I like him a lot. Him and Dak or definitely comparable.

Wentz has a great defense and great coaching. Dak has a great Oline, good run game and better skill position players.

Not sure which is a better friend to a QB.

Him and Dak are comparable right now.. Let's see a few years from now.

Trust me I hope Dak is better but IMO, and I said this before the draft, Wentz is just super talented. He is one of the most talented prospects that's come through the draft in awhile. Almost a perfect prospect.

People just couldn't look past the school he played at and gave Goff the edge because he played at Cal and just ignored the superior talent.


Some of those same people who thought that playing at NDSU actually mattered are the same people acting like Goff played better defenses at Cal than Wentz played week 1 and week 2 of the NFL season.

 

[Romo_To_Dez]

I guess every time that the Eagles win and Wentz has a good game, we can look forward to a thread hyping him up on this board.

 

[Macnalty]

After two weeks of real NFL play, the 2016 redraft would probably be Wentz, and Prescott, first and second. Not sure Goff stays in first rd after his preseason showing, unless it is off his pedigree. The landscape of the NFC east has been reshaped in 2016. Commanders will have to pay to get some QB talent this next draft as both Dallas and Philly reloaded without having to rebuild at the NFL's most scarce position. New York your time is coming...

 

[morasp]

Dak is very good at throwing on the run to the left or right.

 

[JBS]

Now they have no backup and given Wentz's lack of pocket awareness he is not going to last long. Bears were not mounting much of a rush and Wentz got hit and hit hard a lot.

Now they have no backup hahaha

What the heck does that matter? You think they are thinking super bowl this year? And even if they were

Who is Rodgers backup?
Wilson?
Luck?

I can go on and on...

 

[Super_Kazuya]

They are in different roles. Dak is a backup and the tendency, especially with our coaches, is to play conservatively until the starter returns... hence we are 30th in big play percentage and have completed exactly one deep pass. Meanwhile, no one's coming to save Wentz so you let him do as much as he can handle. Having said that, Wentz hasn't really been turned loose either but he has attempted more throws that you would attribute to a veteran starter. Wentz had a 35 yard, pure arm talent touchdown last week that Dak is either incapable of or not allowed to throw.

 

[yimyammer]

The Wentz worship on this site is unreal. Dak threw for nearly 100 more yards than Wentz, but Wentz gets the 'real deal' label while we need to pump our breaks on Dak and be skeptical.

The only thing we haven't really seen from Dak in an actual game yet is him launching the ball down the field and that probably has as much to do with the coaching staff than him since we seen him do it in preseason. How does he not have Wentz's passing ability when he threw for nearly 300 yards last game with no interceptions last game? He put up 19 points and would have possibly beat the Giants, the same team that held Drew Brees to 13 points, if Terrance Williams gets out of bounds.

If Dak had the same game as Wentz last night, he'd be called a dink and dunk game manager around here who can only throw for touchdowns if the defense puts him at the 2 yard line. Wentz gets to play two of the lesser teams in the league and has an amazing defense to keep him free of pressure. He also has a coach that doesn't baby him and can actually draw up an offensive game plan that doesn't simply involve receivers trying to beat their man. We'll see how he does when he starts playing tougher teams, especially divisional teams. Wentz better learn how to slide before he gets knocked out of the game, because right now he's a big hit magnet.

Now Wentz has the tools to be a great quarterback, but he's judged on a completely different metric than Dak, and I'm guessing because he's the quarterback many actually wanted to draft.

alight, alight amigo, fair points but:

 

[sideon]

Dak played an improved Giants defense and a division rival, Wentz played the Browns(nuff said) and a Bears team that continues to build backwards. Wentz has a very strong arm but he has yet to be tested like Dak has.

 

[boysfanindc]

DAK
47/75 | 62.7% comp | 519 yards | 6.92 avg | 0 TD | 0 INT (18 rush | 1 TD)

WENTZ
43/71 | 60.6% comp | 468 yards | 6.59 avg | 3 TD | 0 INT (11 rush | 1 fumble)

Like it.

 

[dstew60105]

Wentz didn't cost that much

They traded Bradford and got a lot back...that counts too

Wentz would have cost us that much. Doesn't matter that the Eagles got a first back.

 

[JBS]

Wentz would have costs us that much. Doesn't matter that the Eagles got a first back.

I don't care what he would have cost us..we didn't get him

If you have a stud qb...it doesn't matter what you paid...if Wentz is the real deal and plays 10+ years...the extra one or two picks is miniscule

 

[NickZepp]

Wentz looks real good. But he's played 2 terrible teams and really wasn't impressive against Chicago. Just wasn't bad. Eagles first 2 games were probably the easiest they will play all year. Browns are going to be one of the 5 worst teams in the league most likely and Bears are lotto pick material also. Next 10 games are Steelers, @ Lions, @ Commanders, Vikings, @ Cowboys, @ Giants, Falcons, @ Seahawks, Packers, @ Bengals. Could very well be 2-10 after that.

 

[dstew60105]

I don't care what he would have cost us..we didn't get him

If you have a stud qb...it doesn't matter what you paid...if Wentz is the real deal and plays 10+ years...the extra one or two picks is miniscule

And if Dak is as good or close then it does matter.

 

[CowboyRoy]

Him and Dak are comparable right now.. Let's see a few years from now.

Trust me I hope Dak is better but IMO, and I said this before the draft, Wentz is just super talented. He is one of the most talented prospects that's come through the draft in awhile. Almost a perfect prospect.

People just couldn't look past the school he played at and gave Goff the edge because he played at Cal and just ignored the superior talent.


Some of those same people who thought that playing at NDSU actually mattered are the same people acting like Goff played better defenses at Cal than Wentz played week 1 and week 2 of the NFL season.

Poise, leadership and demeanor are everything and both guys have it. Gotta love the play calling of their head coach last night. When they got down by the goal line all those misdirection run plays to get them in the endzone.

 

[JBS]

And if Dak is as good or close then it does matter.

Yeah, of course...I agree with that too

It's early but it's difficult for me to decipher which of the two I like more...I definitely don't agree with a lot of the bogus criticism Wentz is getting right now..

 

[Falco78]

Bigger arm on Wentz I can see, but I don't see more accuracy in Wentz. Dak threw for 22 of 30 for 292 yards and Wentz threw for 21 of 34. Dak actually had an over 10% higher completion percentage. Dak was not only more accurate, but threw for more yards in less attempts.

How dare you bring facts into this!

 

[NickZepp]

Wentz didn't cost that much

They traded Bradford and got a lot back...that counts too

They got a late first round pick most likely. Could be a good player but not near as big an impact as a top 10 pick they would likely have next year.