Dak was misquoted: "We won't have those tipped INT's this year"

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TheSport78

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Handwaving at an outcome from before the rookie scale was put in place is a pretty good indication that they are not fairly comparable.

Did Dak even make $5m on his rookie deal?
Probably not, but has he earned his big pay day in our current time?
 

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I almost feel for Dak. The amount of scrutiny that comes with being the Cowboys QB is out of control. I have my opinions of him (solid WB/overachiever, but still not as good as his loyal fans claim he is), but he has to put up with more than most

It was really stupid of him to come out with a declaration regarding his INT total…but it could be the pressure has gotten to him a bit. He felt he had to make a prediction. Silly…but it’s done…
It’s probably the toughest job in sports. It’s tougher to be a Cowboys QB now then it was for Aikman. This toxic social media era. I think it’s why a lot of us thought he was up for the task doing what he did his rookie year. Took a solid state of mind to do that for a rookie. I don’t think it’s stupid it’s just his confidence in himself. He’s better than leading the league in interceptions.
 

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Exactly, unless he's talking about having more confidence in his receivers, then I'm not so sure I like this tone from Dak. I would like for less interceptions, sure. The issue though is that we don't need him to hide in a shell. Trust the receivers to do their jobs. If they mess up and it's intercepted, it'll be easy to see. To quote Parcells and Sean Payton, just do your job, Dak.
Contrary to popular belief his interceptions wasn’t because he was more aggressive. A lot of them were bad throws. A lot of them were dumb decisions by him or the wide out.
 

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If Dak throws for 35 TD's I wont give a wit.
Right, but if he throws for 15 picks you will be all over it.

Stats dont matter until they support your agenda. Regular season wins matter until we win lots of them and then its only playoff wins that matter. Then when we start winning playoff games the only thing that matter is the last game we lost. And no doubt when we make the championship game the only thing that will matter is winning the SB.
 

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It’s probably the toughest job in sports. It’s tougher to be a Cowboys QB now then it was for Aikman. This toxic social media era. I think it’s why a lot of us thought he was up for the task doing what he did his rookie year. Took a solid state of mind to do that for a rookie. I don’t think it’s stupid it’s just his confidence in himself. He’s better than leading the league in interceptions.
You assume he actually reads it. Use that $40 million a year to hire a personal assistant to post away, and stay away from the social media cesspool. :thumbup:
 

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I almost feel for Dak. The amount of scrutiny that comes with being the Cowboys QB is out of control. I have my opinions of him (solid WB/overachiever, but still not as good as his loyal fans claim he is), but he has to put up with more than most

It was really stupid of him to come out with a declaration regarding his INT total…but it could be the pressure has gotten to him a bit. He felt he had to make a prediction. Silly…but it’s done…
I dont feel sorry for Dak. He getting paid loads of money and endorsements because of who he is. I dont think he minds at all.

I took the less than 10 picks thing as an indictment of his receivers last year and the system.
 

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Right, but if he throws for 15 picks you will be all over it.

Stats dont matter until they support your agenda. Regular season wins matter until we win lots of them and then its only playoff wins that matter. Then when we start winning playoff games the only thing that matter is the last game we lost. And no doubt when we make the championship game the only thing that will matter is winning the SB.
OKAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY !!!! You obviously meant that for someone else!!!! While I root for the COWBOYS, I am one of the Biggest DAKAZOIDS on this or any site, BAR NONE! As I have stated HE 'S MY GUY !!!!

Playoff wins !!!!???? I don't measure my enjoyment by wins and Loses I just don't . SB's ???? I have been around for all 8 So you know I've seen all 5 Victories. As a realist I have seen my team bring me more joy over the course of my life

Than I deserve or could have wished for. As a grateful, appreciative, thankful human being, I'm thankful every day for the Five Lombardi's my Boys have Hoisted High. So DuDE you obliviously have the wrong dude. But try MountaineerCowboy's house , IT'S down the Street a little ways,
 

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OKAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY !!!! You obviously meant that for someone else!!!! While I root for the COWBOYS, I am one of the Biggest DAKAZOIDS on this or any site, BAR NONE! As I have stated HE 'S MY GUY !!!!

Playoff wins !!!!???? I don't measure my enjoyment by wins and Loses I just don't . SB's ???? I have been around for all 8 So you know I've seen all 5 Victories. As a realist I have seen my team bring me more joy over the course of my life

Than I deserve or could have wished for. As a grateful, appreciative, thankful human being, I'm thankful every day for the Five Lombardi's my Boys have Hoisted High. So DuDE you obliviously have the wrong dude. But try MountaineerCowboy's house , IT'S down the Street a little ways,
Yes that was for the Dak trolls.

MountaineerCowgirl I put on ignore 2 years ago. Wonderful thing to make a eagle troll like that disappear.
 

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Probably not, but has he earned his big pay day in our current time?
Given the QB market absolutely. I just think you do not understand how markets work. It is about supply and demand and not about what you arbitrarily decide.
 

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Dak was at his most successful under Linehan who was nothing like you describe. Moore is gone but so is Nussmeier, the QB coach.

Coryell becomes a battle between the OC who is timing their routes at certain depths for in, outs, and curls while the DC is having his DBs drop back to certain depths to try and counter it.

Linehan was pretty damn good at it. He was constantly getting guys like Dez, TWill, and Beasley into wide open spaces. Compare that with 4 curls being half of those calls despite the DC having the DBs sit on them.

The real problem with Moore I think was that he was too predictable. Sure he used a lot of formations but we did not use a whole bunch of plays. Given that, teams could focus on a few plays per formation. Watching Warner jump all our run calls and then talk about how we were an open book cements that in my mind.

As for MM, i think you have him pegged all wrong. First, he broke into the league as the QB coach then OC for Marty Schottenheimer. When he was with the Saints he used backs like Deuce McCallister. With the Packers he utilized Green, Grant, and Lacy extensively. His passing game was typical WCO with shorter passes designed to get players the ball on the move to facilitate RAC.

Schottenheimers gig in Seattle was to run all of the play out of any formation. I do not think that is a coincidence.
Dak's best and most effective season is, arguably, his rookie season. After that it was the second half of the 2018 season. Neither of those seasons was Dak tearing things up - he was playing more efficient football.

But all of this will be put to rest this season when we see Dak not improving under McCarthy's system because McCarthy doesn't succeed with these types of QBs.
 

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Contrary to popular belief his interceptions wasn’t because he was more aggressive. A lot of them were bad throws. A lot of them were dumb decisions by him or the wide out.
Even though Dak, Mike, and Jerry all talked about the need to be more aggressive?

It was obvious Dak was trying to be more aggressive, even before all three of them spoke on it.
That is what led to the bad throws and dumb decisions.
 

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Dak's best and most effective season is, arguably, his rookie season. After that it was the second half of the 2018 season. Neither of those seasons was Dak tearing things up - he was playing more efficient football.

But all of this will be put to rest this season when we see Dak not improving under McCarthy's system because McCarthy doesn't succeed with these types of QBs.
Okay but at the end of the day there are 32 teams and not 32 quarterbacks that are starting quality. You can quibble about where he ranks but it is a bear market to buy into.

On top of that there are a lot of different metrics like win shares and points added that point to QBs having about 3 times as much impact as other positions.

Then you look at VFA. The last under 30 better than average quarterback to hit the open market was Derek Carr. Most years it is Teddy Bridgewater or worse.
 
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