Dak was misquoted: "We won't have those tipped INT's this year"

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https://www.dallascowboys.com/news/dak-on-loss-to-was-ints-crappy-won-t-continue?hidebanner=true

"It stinks," he admitted. "... I've got to get better at it. This won't continue. ... I've been having to get back up all my life."

Was said after Washington game as well.
Okay so he accepted responsibility and essentially was saying he believes in himself. Like you said that didn't work out.

Can you think of any other changes that have taken place that are different than it was in midseason?
 

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Don't know if I would have said 10. Maybe not 15 again. He's played 6 1/3 seasons and had 10 or more interceptions four times. Odds are that he'll have around 10 or 11 again, which is an OK number if you are throwing 30-plus TD passes (two of the years that he had 10-plus interceptions, he also had 30 or more TDs).

The QB is not completely in control on the interceptions. Generally, when a QB has a high number of interceptions, there are some drops and wrong routes involved. Of the top 10 QBs, six had 10 or more interceptions last year.

He would have been better off just saying he was going to do better on the interceptions.
 

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Okay so he accepted responsibility and essentially was saying he believes in himself. Like you said that didn't work out.

Can you think of any other changes that have taken place that are different than it was in midseason?
I'm not saying it won't happen - I'm saying a player saying this stuff isn't newsworthy because of course they'll have this mindset.

And yeah, Moore went somewhere else. But the I simply don't put this all on Moore, I have issues with McCarthy thinking Dak is a QB who needs to sling it. I really don't think Dak is that type of QB at all - he may want to be and feels he can do it, but Dak is at his best playing off a good ground game and the "take what the defense gives you" type football. He's always been most successful at this style of play. People can show me his TD total when Moore took over playcalling duties, but when things got dialed back is when Dak was his most effective and efficient. McCarthy doesn't run this style of offense so I don't see much changing.
 

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:facepalm: That is an attention seeking soundbite worthy of Jerry Jones.:banghead:
you think dak needs to seek attention? you think daks interceptions alone haven’t been a huge talking point all summer? i like him making a stance on it, not hiding or talking in platitudes.
 

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So you believe Micah and Dak's credibility is equal? That is what I want to know.
so far yes, if they both go out and bring home the hardware then they can both get credit for that..along with Zack Martin, CD, Diggs, Tank, Tyron, MM, DQ you know the team...
 

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No worries. An interception will still be put on the quarterback if the pass is thrown behind the receiver, somehow hits the receiver's foot, bounces up practically into the defensive back's chest.

Trust me if you have never seen that kind of ricochet happen before. I have. :(
reminds me of a Romo throw to Witten who did exactly dad.

but there is also Brown who played volleyball trying to set up for a spike to the DB......
 

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so far yes, if they both go out and bring home the hardware then they can both get credit for that..along with Zack Martin, CD, Diggs, Tank, Tyron, MM, DQ you know the team...
It is telling that you won't separate their individual play & accountability from team success.
 

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You think dak needs to seek attention?
Normally? No. Usually, Prescott comments are not definable in nature. They are abstract. [Paraphrasing] "I will play much better than before." "The next outcome will be different than last time."

In this particular instance? Yes, he does. Making a public statement specifying he will not throw a certain number of interceptions intentionally draws attention to himself and whether his statement shall hold true. Making public promises is a long-established Jerry Jones trait.
you think daks interceptions alone haven’t been a huge talking point all summer?
Of course it has been. How is that relevant? Do you believe the logical PR comment from the target of scrutiny is "I won't have ten interceptions this year?"
i like him making a stance on it, not hiding or talking in platitudes.
I hope Prescott has a fantastic season. His performance level helps the team achieve if it is highly productive.

I also hope his comment does not come back and bite him in the <expletive>. There have been thousands of professional and amateur athletes who have allowed their level of play to speak for them. Some choose to make proclamations they may not be able to keep. Then again, Prescott has every right to tell anyone criticizing his promise to go <expletive> themselves IF he pulls it off too.

The 2023 season awaits what may be.
 

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It is telling that you won't separate their individual play & accountability from team success.
Lol yes because we are all hoping for individual awards this year? I'm hoping for the main team award you may wish for whatever you like.
 

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I'm not saying it won't happen - I'm saying a player saying this stuff isn't newsworthy because of course they'll have this mindset.

And yeah, Moore went somewhere else. But the I simply don't put this all on Moore, I have issues with McCarthy thinking Dak is a QB who needs to sling it. I really don't think Dak is that type of QB at all - he may want to be and feels he can do it, but Dak is at his best playing off a good ground game and the "take what the defense gives you" type football. He's always been most successful at this style of play. People can show me his TD total when Moore took over playcalling duties, but when things got dialed back is when Dak was his most effective and efficient. McCarthy doesn't run this style of offense so I don't see much changing.
Dak was at his most successful under Linehan who was nothing like you describe. Moore is gone but so is Nussmeier, the QB coach.

Coryell becomes a battle between the OC who is timing their routes at certain depths for in, outs, and curls while the DC is having his DBs drop back to certain depths to try and counter it.

Linehan was pretty damn good at it. He was constantly getting guys like Dez, TWill, and Beasley into wide open spaces. Compare that with 4 curls being half of those calls despite the DC having the DBs sit on them.

The real problem with Moore I think was that he was too predictable. Sure he used a lot of formations but we did not use a whole bunch of plays. Given that, teams could focus on a few plays per formation. Watching Warner jump all our run calls and then talk about how we were an open book cements that in my mind.

As for MM, i think you have him pegged all wrong. First, he broke into the league as the QB coach then OC for Marty Schottenheimer. When he was with the Saints he used backs like Deuce McCallister. With the Packers he utilized Green, Grant, and Lacy extensively. His passing game was typical WCO with shorter passes designed to get players the ball on the move to facilitate RAC.

Schottenheimers gig in Seattle was to run all of the play out of any formation. I do not think that is a coincidence.
 

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Normally? No. Usually, Prescott comments are not definable in nature. They are abstract. [Paraphrasing] "I will play much better than before." "The next outcome will be different than last time."

In this particular instance? Yes, he does. Making a public statement specifying he will not throw a certain number of interceptions intentionally draws attention to himself and whether his statement shall hold true. Making public promises is a long-established Jerry Jones trait.
Of course it has been. How is that relevant? Do you believe the logical PR comment from the target of scrutiny is "I won't have ten interceptions this year?"
I hope Prescott has a fantastic season. His performance level helps the team achieve if it is highly productive.

I also hope his comment does not come back and bite him in the <expletive>. There have been thousands of professional and amateur athletes who have allowed their level of play to speak for them. Some choose to make proclamations they may not be able to keep. Then again, Prescott has every right to tell anyone criticizing his promise to go <expletive> themselves IF he pulls it off too.

The 2023 season awaits what may be.
Given that MM used to set his QBs a goal of sub 10 picks I would say it had a lot to do with the emphasis.
 

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I'm always fair. I haven't watched Martz breakdown but first reaction is that I would be hard pressed to believe that Dak had no culpability in 8 of them. Primary reason is that there were several that people were trying to blame on the receiver but Dak had direct line of sight that defender was in position but still chose to throw. Regardless of whether receiver ran a good route or if D did an excellent job, Dak still had final decision & chose poorly.

I've answered your question. Go answer mine about whether Micah or Dak is more trustworthy in backing up their comments.
who cares? the question was raised why doesn’t
Normally? No. Usually, Prescott comments are not definable in nature. They are abstract. [Paraphrasing] "I will play much better than before." "The next outcome will be different than last time."

In this particular instance? Yes, he does. Making a public statement specifying he will not throw a certain number of interceptions intentionally draws attention to himself and whether his statement shall hold true. Making public promises is a long-established Jerry Jones trait.
Of course it has been. How is that relevant? Do you believe the logical PR comment from the target of scrutiny is "I won't have ten interceptions this year?"
I hope Prescott has a fantastic season. His performance level helps the team achieve if it is highly productive.

I also hope his comment does not come back and bite him in the <expletive>. There have been thousands of professional and amateur athletes who have allowed their level of play to speak for them. Some choose to make proclamations they may not be able to keep. Then again, Prescott has every right to tell anyone criticizing his promise to go <expletive> themselves IF he pulls it off too.

The 2023 season awaits what may be.
If the attention is already there (as it is and has been) I don't see how you can seek it. it's like getting dumping a bucket of water on your head when you're in the pool. Sure it's more water, but you can't get any more wet. he just addressed the main talking point in specifics. could definitely backfire, but i don't think the intent was seeking attention. but hey, we'll see how it hakes out
 

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Given that MM used to set his QBs a goal of sub 10 picks I would say it had a lot to do with the emphasis.
Emphasis to whom? McCarthy's quarterbacks? Or to the public via his quarterbacks' statements to the press? I would hope McCarthy was entrusting and emphasizing personal goals for his players to personally thrive for--not goals for everyone to know and hold his players accountable for achieving.
 

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Talk, talk and more talk. Just get this year out of the way and let’s move on from #4. He’s the weak link on this team by a big margin.
 

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Emphasis to whom? McCarthy's quarterbacks? Or to the public via his quarterbacks; statements to the press? I would hope McCarthy was entrusting and emphasizing personal goals for his players to personally thrive for--not goals for everyone to know and hold his players accountable for achieving.

Yeah, I don't understand how Fuzzy knows all the inside stuff about MM like he posts that he does?
 
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