Dak winner, Wentz loser

[River82]

....you are proving what their problem is. Wentz put up points, but they still can't win games. Is Wentz on defense? I'm not even going to read the rest of your babble.

Until you understand what you just wrote supports Wentz, there is nothing else to discuss.

The Eagles can't score more than 24 points unless they're facing a dysfunctional Giants team. In fact, the only time Wentz succeeded was when he was facing an incredibly easy schedule. He's proven nothing and shown nothing.

 

[mattjames2010]

This is a perfect example of a fan that has no idea what he is talking about. lol.

New Orleans has two of the top 6 yards after catch leaders.
Kamara and Thomas combine for over 800 yards.

DAL has NO ONE in the top 50. Zeke leads the team at 179.

Smith was playing for one of the best offenses in football in KC and won 31 games over his final 3 seasons.
He never finished .500 or below in 5 seasons in KC.

The facts are just facts. Brees and Dak are completing passes and not turning it over.
Brees is completing his passes for more yardage? Umm, OK. lol.
Dak is finishing second in a 2 man stat race with the likely NFL MVP. Poor us.

LOL holy ****! haha

Here is Alex Smith and his completion % with Kansas City

2013 - 60%
2014 - 65 %
2015 - 65%
2016 - 67%
2017 - 67%

The most INTs Smith threw with KC was 8 - again, genius, this is very similar to what Dak is at. And best offense in football? BUD, they weren't always loaded on offense - you get KC went a year where not a single WR caught a TD pass, right? That's how depleted they were at that position.

And whatever weapons Brees has it's due to him making them better - unless you think they have historic playmakers, no other QB has been as consistently accurate as Brees in ALL AREAS of the field - the only difference is, his decision making the past couple seasons has been some of the best in football, maybe ever.

Context. NEXT!

 

[jterrell]

A "cherry picked" stat are people running around saying being "clutch" against bad teams is somehow putting Dak over the top. Newflash: Dak can't beat winning teams.

I already looked at what they have done over their careers - Dak had a rookie of the year award, he then fell off a cliff and now is heavily criticized nationally. Wentz, however, had an extreme improvement from year 1 to 2, was a lock to be the MVP before hurting his knee, and even improved accuracy wise this year....

Wentz is #13 right now on PFF (the Saints game dropped him)

https://www.profootballfocus.com/nfl/players/carson-wentz/10636

Dak Prescott has stagnated at 20

https://www.profootballfocus.com/nfl/players/dak-prescott/10769

That coach has a super bowl trophy, we have a clapper and a scrub QB from a trailer park.

Stop posting stupid things.
Eagles fans are calling for Foles to start.
Wentz has been terrible in game winning situations all year and was a dumpster fire last week with the season on the line.

Dak and Wentz both had 1 very good season. They've at best been equivalent this year.
This year Wentz has 15 TDs and 13 Turnovers. He hasn't been clutch as any Eagle fan will tell you.
Most importantly his team is 3-5 with him starting.

 

[mattjames2010]

Stop posting stupid things.
Eagles fans are calling for Foles to start.
Wentz has been terrible in game winning situations all year and was a dumpster fire last week with the season on the line.

Dak and Wentz both had 1 very good season. They've at best been equivalent this year.
This year Wentz has 15 TDs and 13 Turnovers. He hasn't been clutch as any Eagle fan will tell you.
Most importantly his team is 3-5 with him starting.

Show me. Show me a valid poll out there where people want Foles to start, otherwise, this is some anecdotal BS you saw on a crappy message board.

Some people here want Cooper Rush to start...

 

[jterrell]

LOL holy ****! haha

Here is Alex Smith and his completion % with Kansas City

2013 - 60%
2014 - 65 %
2015 - 65%
2016 - 67%
2017 - 67%

The most INTs Smith threw with KC was 8 - again, genius, this is very similar to what Dak is at. And best offense in football? BUD, they weren't always loaded on offense - you get KC went a year where not a single WR caught a TD pass, right? That's how depleted they were at that position.

And whatever weapons Brees has it's due to him making them better - unless you think they have historic playmakers, no other QB has been as consistently accurate as Brees in ALL AREAS of the field - the only difference is, his decision making the past couple seasons has been some of the best in football, maybe ever.

Context. NEXT!

hey dummy, alex smith won more games over those seasons than drew brees.
those aren't negatives goofball.

 

[Dre11]

I have done the research. Probably more than many media members.

The Ravens offer story was made up by his agent. The agent likely knew that was one of the teams that would not comment and therefore not dispute his story.

I sure that you know Agents use specific media members to plant stories. Teams do it also.

The Browns visit was also scripted. Why do you think a camera crew was following him around and allowed access inside the Browns operations?

He got injured immediately after signing with the Saints. The probability of injury is much higher if he was out of shape.

His agent even managed to get out a story about him being in great condition when he came in for a visit with the Saints. After he signed it came out that a part of the discussion with the Saints was about their concern that he was "too heavy" which in sports almost always means the player is out of shape.

Lol no it wasn't made up. Nothing you say ever has a bit of supporting facts.

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[mattjames2010]

hey dummy, alex smith won more games over those seasons than drew brees.
those aren't negatives goofball.

...yeah, the Saints had a struggling defense for a few years. This isn't shocking. Their offense has always been dynamic. LOL

Holy crap, are you actually going to address how Alex Smith stats look similar to the BS you tried peddling?

 

[windward]

Somebody ask the copy and paste boy, the one who has fantasies about how our team is run on a daily basis and then bores us with his hallucinations here, if he'd rather have Carson Wentz or Dak Prescott as his QB.

It's a simple question. And it's even for the entire forum. Is there anyone reading this that would actually rather have the sack of crap that trots out with the number 4 on this team?

Reveal yourself. So I can laugh at you. Like I laughed at you when you thought he was the MVP in 2016 only to see your looks of confusion the next season when you realized how little you understand the game.

Someone seems angry.

 

[JIMMYBUFFETT]

I kinda like Dak.

 

[River82]

Someone seems angry.

Risen's delusional. Wentz is a bust, no question.

 

[jterrell]

Show me. Show me a valid poll out there where people want Foles to start, otherwise, this is some anecdotal BS you saw on a crappy message board.

Some people here want Cooper Rush to start...

From first philly site I googled...

How bad was Wentz?

• He became the first Eagle to throw three interceptions and no touchdowns in a game since Matt Barkley against the Cowboys in 2013, the first starting QB to do it since Donovan McNabb against the Panthers in the 2003 playoffs and the first in a regular-season game since Ty Detmer against the Colts in 1996.

• Wentz’s 31.9 passer rating is lowest by an Eagles starting quarterback in 11 years, since A.J. Feeley had a 30.0 rating against the Seahawks in a 28-24 loss at the Linc.

• It’s also worst against the Saints since Mark Sanchez had a 27.0 rating in a 24-10 win over the Jets in 2009.

• Wentz saw his NFL-record streak of games with at least one TD pass and one or fewer interceptions end at 22.

• Wentz also saw his streak of consecutive games with a passer rating of at least 83 end at 21, three short of Peyton Manning’s record streak of 24.

The Eagles have now lost five of their last seven games after a 2-1 start, and Wentz, like everybody else, has no answers.

 

[mattjames2010]

From first philly site I googled...

How bad was Wentz?

• He became the first Eagle to throw three interceptions and no touchdowns in a game since Matt Barkley against the Cowboys in 2013, the first starting QB to do it since Donovan McNabb against the Panthers in the 2003 playoffs and the first in a regular-season game since Ty Detmer against the Colts in 1996.

• Wentz’s 31.9 passer rating is lowest by an Eagles starting quarterback in 11 years, since A.J. Feeley had a 30.0 rating against the Seahawks in a 28-24 loss at the Linc.

• It’s also worst against the Saints since Mark Sanchez had a 27.0 rating in a 24-10 win over the Jets in 2009.

• Wentz saw his NFL-record streak of games with at least one TD pass and one or fewer interceptions end at 22.

• Wentz also saw his streak of consecutive games with a passer rating of at least 83 end at 21, three short of Peyton Manning’s record streak of 24.

The Eagles have now lost five of their last seven games after a 2-1 start, and Wentz, like everybody else, has no answers.

This is discussing Wentz having a poor game.

You stated Eagles fans want Foles - your claim. Back it up. Again, I can pull up posts where people say they want Rush to start.

 

[River82]

From first philly site I googled...

How bad was Wentz?

• He became the first Eagle to throw three interceptions and no touchdowns in a game since Matt Barkley against the Cowboys in 2013, the first starting QB to do it since Donovan McNabb against the Panthers in the 2003 playoffs and the first in a regular-season game since Ty Detmer against the Colts in 1996.

• Wentz’s 31.9 passer rating is lowest by an Eagles starting quarterback in 11 years, since A.J. Feeley had a 30.0 rating against the Seahawks in a 28-24 loss at the Linc.

• It’s also worst against the Saints since Mark Sanchez had a 27.0 rating in a 24-10 win over the Jets in 2009.

• Wentz saw his NFL-record streak of games with at least one TD pass and one or fewer interceptions end at 22.

• Wentz also saw his streak of consecutive games with a passer rating of at least 83 end at 21, three short of Peyton Manning’s record streak of 24.

The Eagles have now lost five of their last seven games after a 2-1 start, and Wentz, like everybody else, has no answers.

Everyone talks about his strong arm and his throws down field. That throw where he heaved it downfield, tried to hit 1 eagle and miss the 2 Saint defenders, then dropped it 5 yards under the eagle dude where the 2 saints defenders were? Brilliant.

But seriously his mobility is affected, which affects the time he has in the pocket, and he's a lot more pressured. He's not a pocket passer like Brady, affect his mobility and he doesn't look anywhere near as good.

 

[jterrell]

...yeah, the Saints had a struggling defense for a few years. This isn't shocking. Their offense has always been dynamic. LOL

Holy crap, are you actually going to address how Alex Smith stats look similar to the BS you tried peddling?

Dude stop posting. You are not very bright.
You are actually comparing Dak in this DAL 1990 offense to Andy Reid and Pederson's modern offense in KC
Then trying to somehow insult Alex Smith in KC it while saying oh yea the defense was bad as of KC had any defense most of those seasons... ROFL.

That is the most illogical load of crap anyone has ever tried to sell on here.

Just quit lying.

The facts are facts.
You making excuses changes nothing.

Dak 5-5. Carson 3-5.
Dak 27-15. Carson 21-16.
Truth hurts.

 

[River82]

Someone needs to pick Foles up before the Eagles realize that Foles is far better than Wentz as a QB

 

[jterrell]

Everyone talks about his strong arm and his throws down field. That throw where he heaved it downfield, tried to hit 1 eagle and miss the 2 Saint defenders, then dropped it 5 yards under the eagle dude where the 2 saints defenders were? Brilliant.

But seriously his mobility is affected, which affects the time he has in the pocket, and he's a lot more pressured. He's not a pocket passer like Brady, affect his mobility and he doesn't look anywhere near as good.

All year long he's played like crap then put up big passing totals in come back efforts that mostly fell short.

Eagles fans know this and are very critical.

 

[mattjames2010]

Dude stop posting. You are not very bright.
You are actually comparing Dak in this DAL 1990 offense to Andy Reid and Pederson's modern offense in KC
Then trying to somehow insult Alex Smith in KC it while saying oh yea the defense was bad as of KC had any defense most of those seasons... ROFL.

That is the most illogical load of crap anyone has ever tried to sell on here.

Just quit lying.

The facts are facts.
You making excuses changes nothing.

Dak 5-5. Carson 3-5.
Dak 27-15. Carson 21-16.
Truth hurts.

You're not even being coherent....

So now it went from Dak being impressive to Dak isn't playing as well as Alex Smith did in Kansas City because "DA PLAY CALLING"

And your "facts" have nothing to do with what you attempted to post earlier from some rando tweet - I gave you context on why Brees has an impressive stat and how Dak is looking more like Alex Smith and you're sperging.

Holy crap, this is hilarious. I love the whole mad online stuff some of you do.

 

[mattjames2010]

All year long he's played like crap then put up big passing totals in come back efforts that mostly fell short.

Eagles fans know this and are very critical.

Post sufficient evidence to support the claim you made earlier - anecdotes are not enough.

 

[River82]

All year long he's played like crap then put up big passing totals in come back efforts that mostly fell short.

Eagles fans know this and are very critical.

The Saints pointed to some very telling statistics. They Saints pointed to the stat that the Eagles are 1-11 when they allow more than 26 points scored against them, and their gameplan was to put the game on Wentz. That's very telling

 

[River82]

Correction Eagles are 1-11 when they allow more than 26 points and Wentz is at QB