Dak's Contract Could be 24% of the Team Cap in 2024

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I’m feeling like thinking isn’t the point of this thread
For some, this thread fosters thought, for others, it flies over their heads. Point is not in Fox Sports' accuracy in the 59M hitting next year, it's that restructure and a possible contract increase could hamstring us in the coming years. Factor in Parsons and Martin getting new deals and there will be some tough decisions to be made. Parsons is still on his rookie contract, but is eligible for a new deal in '24. I'm damn certain he will want to get paid as a #1 DE.
 

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For sure.
The prorated cap from restructuring his current deal is as follows:
24:24.5mil
25:24.5mil
26: 11mil.

If he's extended, the new contract base+bonuses will be on top of the above. And since they are prorated bonus cap hits, they can't be reduced.
So, his next contract at least at first won't be a cheap deal cap hit wise. I'd assume the Jones duo would want Dak to take a deal closer to Herberts with roster options(fully guaranteed) that can be converted to signing bonus that select year than do another huge signing bonus up front with more prorated cap hit up front.
I agree.
 

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Jerry can only kick the cap can so far down the road till it's time to pay up.

Kicking the can down the road can bit teams. And at some point, the remaining cost of the contract will count against cap space. If you restructure too many contracts, you will get jammed up at some point.
And what does pallarable mean?
I agree, at some point you have to pay the piper. all teams do that and then they take the massive cap hits and rebuild.
 

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According to Google, his net worth is 70 million. WHY do you need any more money?
For most of these guys it ceases to be about money. It's all about status. Pecking rights.

Then again TO burned through $40 mil. so what do I know. Owens lost it all and is now doing circus gigs to pay rent (this despite never managing to pay child support).

Dak, I believe is a genuinely good man. Absolutely. He might just give too much ear to his agent and the prevailing culture. Though the same could be said for Martin. And after all that: don't get me started on these blood-sucker owners.
 

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Once again, we could have made the deal for Aaron Rodgers, told Dak he is no longer the starter, Dak then waves his no trade clause, we get some compensation for Dak to help offset some of what we gave up for Rodgers, been free of Dak's contract, and had a shot to win it all this year with a QB who has actually gotten it done before and knows what it takes.
First, a reminder that Rodgers and MM had a bad history and MM was let go....would rodgers come here since MM is here? this is not Yahoo fantasy football trade post! what compensation do you expect to get for Dak? draft picks. this isn't about draft picks. its about managing the cap.

Second, reality, Dak is here. I get it you don't like him. but getting rid of him would have a 86M cap hit this year. even if you made it post June 1st cut, its still a 43M cap hit. How much would have been rodgers cap hit? that would probably end up with a 60-100 M cap hit just for QB spot (here and not here). would that even be feasible? or do we start cutting left and right to make cap space available for Rodgers. and no team has ever won the superbowl with a cap hit larger than 15% for the QB spot according to a lot of pundits around here.

sorry, I don't play fantasy football.
 

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I did mention, that more money can get added but not greatly, but the kicker to sweeten the deal is the 30M up front. that's very attractive to any player.
According to Spotrac Dak will receive 31 million this season, if nothing changes. His total guaranteed money will also be fulfilled as part of that 31 million.

Why would Dak choose to forgo the opportunity to "get another piece of the pie" by taking the 31 million in one lump some now rather than taking it in 17 weekly installments?

31 million now in exchange for adding years to his contract to help the cap...
OR
31 million paid out over the next four months and the opportunity to negotiate another contract with another big signing bonus and another guaranteed amount.

You really think Dak is going to forgo the opportunity for another big payday simply to get that 31 million now instead of 4 months from now?

The Cowboys are going to have to either eat the big cap hit, (never going to happen) or extend (not restructure) which isn't going to be cheap, and will simply push the big hit down the road.

I understand that what you are suggesting is possible, and has been done in different situations but Dak would be a fool to accept that in this situation. Unless he is motivated more by the chance for a ring than the bag. That seems unlikely since he played hardball for the shorter 4 year contract simply to be in this position, to get another piece of the pie.
 

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According to Spotrac Dak will receive 31 million this season, if nothing changes. His total guaranteed money will also be fulfilled as part of that 31 million.

Why would Dak choose to forgo the opportunity to "get another piece of the pie" by taking the 31 million in one lump some now rather than taking it in 17 weekly installments?

31 million now in exchange for adding years to his contract to help the cap...
OR
31 million paid out over the next four months and the opportunity to negotiate another contract with another big signing bonus and another guaranteed amount.

You really think Dak is going to forgo the opportunity for another big payday simply to get that 31 million now instead of 4 months from now?

The Cowboys are going to have to either eat the big cap hit, (never going to happen) or extend (not restructure) which isn't going to be cheap, and will simply push the big hit down the road.

I understand that what you are suggesting is possible, and has been done in different situations but Dak would be a fool to accept that in this situation. Unless he is motivated more by the chance for a ring than the bag. That seems unlikely since he played hardball for the shorter 4 year contract simply to be in this position, to get another piece of the pie.
financially speaking, I would take a lump sum up front than in installments. for many players, those installments are not guaranteed. its only the guranteed portion of the money that's guranteed per se.

and I did say, to extend, with minimal amount of money added.

its all about the gurantees and bonuses.
 

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financially speaking, I would take a lump sum up front than in installments. for many players, those installments are not guaranteed. its only the guranteed portion of the money that's guranteed per se.

and I did say, to extend, with minimal amount of money added.

its all about the gurantees and bonuses.
Daks salary this season is already guaranteed.

That's mighty nice of you take the 31 million now in exchange for playing for peanuts for a couple more years, but if you think Dak is going to leave the opportunity to negotiate those extra years at market rate on the table, you're nuts. Especially since he's already received 150+ million over the last five years. There's no incentive for him to do what you suggest. His agent would probably kneecap him for suggesting it.

Tad definitely wouldn't agree to that.
 

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According to Fox Sports, Dak's cap hit is $59M which would an NFL record. With Parsons eligible and deserving of a hugh contract in 2024 and Zack Martin wanting to be paid as the best guard , it will be interesting to see who Jerry pays and who he doesn't.
It's not going to be. The only way it will be that high is if he craps the bed this year and Jerry wants to move on.
 

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Daks salary this season is already guaranteed.

That's mighty nice of you take the 31 million now in exchange for playing for peanuts for a couple more years, but if you think Dak is going to leave the opportunity to negotiate those extra years at market rate on the table, you're nuts. Especially since he's already received 150+ million over the last five years. There's no incentive for him to do what you suggest. His agent would probably kneecap him for suggesting it.

Tad definitely wouldn't agree to that.
I think originally there was the discussion about 2024....and my comment about getting paid 30M up front.

2023, is water under the bridge.
 

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I think originally there was the discussion about 2024....and my comment about getting paid 30M up front.

2023, is water under the bridge.
Doesn't change anything.

Dak has the Cowboys by the shorthairs and would be a fool to give up something like 3 yrs 150+ million, or 4 years 200+ million, with the signing bonus and guaranteed money, because you know... market rate....

The Cowboys have to do something and the fact that they have the most competitive team we've seen in almost 30 years indicates that slamming the window shut and starting over at QB next year seems very very unlikely.

Dak has all the leverage. The only leverage the Cowboys have is to make him sing for his supper this season, but that only gets them the lose/lose scenario of having to decide to slam the window shut or to pay an even higher "market rate" next offseason.

Going to be interesting to see how this play out.
 

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Not trying to make excuses for Dak but the reason why it's freakishly high is because capwise he's been really low the last four seasons

2020-2023 (4 seasons) his average cap hit has only been around 23.5 million and that's including a franchise tag year which was fully guaranteed

The 59 million next year is the consequence of him having a 4 year stretch (none of which rookie deal) in which he had a relatively low hit. Now they have to pay for that
 

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Jerry can only kick the cap can so far down the road till it's time to pay up.

Kicking the can down the road can bit teams. And at some point, the remaining cost of the contract will count against cap space. If you restructure too many contracts, you will get jammed up at some point.
And what does pallarable mean?
Jerry doesn't have much road left, so he doesn't care.
 

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They should've drafted Will Levis to put some pressure on Dak. Dak knows Jerry doesn't have an option.
having Will Levis wouldn't put pressure on Dak. that's childish thinking. it would have been a good idea to just prepare for the future. I have been saying in other threads, we should draft a QB in top 3,4 rounds every 3,4 years. hope to develop. if they don't rinse repeat. if they do, then we have leverage in negotiations, options and/or trade and get returns. its a good over all strategy.
 
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