Dak's Stats Last Season vs. Romo's 2012 Season (Both Contract Years)

[gtb1943]

Dak and Romo are both victims of GM Jethro.

But you can go ahead and keep buying into Phenom check down Trance.

It amuses me to see dak bots claim no one is hated as much as he was
clearly not around when romo was starting

 

[blueblood70]

Can you comprehend why QB is the position that gets paid 3x more than a RG?

C’mon man. It is most definitely a team sport— but let’s not pretend that quality QB play isn’t one of the most important difference makers in the entire sport.

And let’s not let Dak off the hook either. He has acknowledged himself he needs to play better.

The rest of us are just waiting for him to actually do it. You seem fine crossing your fingers and hoping a blind squirrel will finally find that nut.

You and JJ would get along great lol

most of us are waiting for the actual team to show up and actually have a physical offensive line a more effective run game a better defense and special teams all in the same game with the coaching staff devising a game plan that if it blows up they actually adapt to it you know like Troy had Emmett and that offensive line defense and coaching staff you know like Roger had Tom Landry and that run game in Tony Dorsett and others with that physical offensive line and a defense that earned several monikers you mean those teams that we're searching for yeah it would be nice if you took Prescott's name out of it and just put in the word team we are crossing our fingers waiting that the team finds their nut because right now that's not happening most of these games we've lost it's been far more than a quarterback issue and it's hard to play quarterback when you don't have a consistent offensive line run game defense or really anything people show up and start dropping passes defense giving up seven points right out-of-the-box defense giving 21 straight points right out the halftime playing the quarterback we're making a couple mistakes even though we watch our other famed quarterbacks make those same mistakes we watch Matthew Stafford lead the league in interceptions and throw two of them in the Super bowl and they still win why is it the 49ers wave with the make a comeback from their deficit in the playoffs and make the Super bowl after halftime having a similar offensive offense not playing well their team played better it enabled everyone to catch up...

So let's stop the nonsense we know the quarterbacks are paying more but they're also a part of the team and the team only functions with all the other moving parts working together for the same cause not having 11 penalties or missing blocks or dropping interceptions or missing a hit on kittles or defense giving up plays left and right getting gas for 10 yards per carry in the first half of the San Francisco game they somehow are getting credit for keeping the game close no they didn't play well we're losing as a team and the quarterback is not Superman it should never be counted on to play better then it's some of it's works it's hard to play quarterback when you don't have anything else going right in the game...​

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[SteveTheCowboy]

Poster of this thread is no surprise.

Remind me how the nfc east looked back then to the joke it is now (outside eagles):

The deadskins werent absolute pushovers to put 40pts on every year
Giants had a crazy defense
Iggles were always a pain

And compare offensive lines, we had just drafted some good ones but it peaked in 2014 and dak has benefitted from it since.

Jason garrett was still there and we didnt have a dan quinn to make our defense not a joke.

Also every year the league makes it easier to have more gaudy passing numbers, and protection for qbs.
Its why romo shattered aikmans numbers even though aikman was a really good qb in a powerhouse offense, and its why dak will surpass romo too.

I thought romo was overpaid, but in terms of the mvp talk, this was the weakest class of qbs this year, llamars mvp is kinda a joke.
Meanwhile in 2012 you had Prime brady, brees, mannings, RG3, rivers, rodgers.

The numbers can be correct but they dont tell the whole story.
But who wants to be fair to both sides on these boards lately?

Romo set records and competed with the best QB's during a time of really good..HoF QB's.

Toe to toe with Manning and the Broncos...defense just could not get a stop.

All the while sketchy defenses and fellow players. Jerry went out and got some has beens...but rarely a CeeDee or Amari.

Why do people have to invoke Romo, from more n 8 years ago, to defend Dak? Crazy...talk about livin in their heads.

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

most of us are waiting for the actual team to show up and actually have a physical offensive line a more effective run game a better defense and special teams all in the same game with the coaching staff devising a game plan that if it blows up they actually adapt to it you know like Troy had Emmett and that offensive line defense and coaching staff you know like Roger had Tom Landry and that run game in Tony Dorsett and others with that physical offensive line and a defense that earned several monikers you mean those teams that we're searching for yeah it would be nice if you took Prescott's name out of it and just put in the word team we are crossing our fingers waiting that the team finds their nut because right now that's not happening most of these games we've lost it's been far more than a quarterback issue and it's hard to play quarterback when you don't have a consistent offensive line run game defense or really anything people show up and start dropping passes defense giving up seven points right out-of-the-box defense giving 21 straight points right out the halftime playing the quarterback we're making a couple mistakes even though we watch our other famed quarterbacks make those same mistakes we watch Matthew Stafford lead the league in interceptions and throw two of them in the Super bowl and they still win why is it the 49ers wave with the make a comeback from their deficit in the playoffs and make the Super bowl after halftime having a similar offensive offense not playing well their team played better it enabled everyone to catch up...

So let's stop the nonsense we know the quarterbacks are paying more but they're also a part of the team and the team only functions with all the other moving parts working together for the same cause not having 11 penalties or missing blocks or dropping interceptions or missing a hit on kittles or defense giving up plays left and right getting gas for 10 yards per carry in the first half of the San Francisco game they somehow are getting credit for keeping the game close no they didn't play well we're losing as a team and the quarterback is not Superman it should never be counted on to play better then it's some of it's works it's hard to play quarterback when you don't have anything else going right in the game...​

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Everyone's fault but Dak.

 

[Flamma]

Here is a comparison of Dak vs Romo in a contract year. The stats are for the season prior to the contract year. Romo was treated like Jerry's son while Dak has been treated like an unproven rookie. Double standard, plain and simple and Dak's numbers and wins are better than Romo's.

In 2013, Romo signed a a six-year, $108 million contract extension with $55 million in guarantees and a $25 million signing bonus. This contract extension saw Romo make just $1.2 million less than HOF, 2-time Super Bowl Champ Peyton Manning.

Meanwhile in 2023, Dak outplayed Romo in most of the important stats except total yards as shown below. Romo was never questioned or ever in a "prove it" season like Dak is facing this season as Romo was Jerry's adopted son and treated as such. In 2023 Dak played one more game than Romo's 2012 season but only had 9 interceptions to Romo's 19. Ouch!!

2023 Dak's led the Cowboys to an 12-5 season and was 2nd in NFC MVP Voting
CMP ATT Yards Comp% AVG TD INT Long Sack RTG QBR Carries Yds Avg TD Long
410 590 4,516 69.5 7.7 36 9 92 39 105.9 72.7 55 242 4.4 2 22

2012 Romo led the Cowboys to an 8-8 season
CMP ATT Yards Comp% AVG TD INT Long Sack RTG QBR Carries Yds Avg TD Long
425 648 4,903 65.6 7.6 28 19 85 36 90.5 64.6 30 49 1.6 1 15

Romo continues to be revered like he won a divisional playoff game or something, while Dak is reviled by the Fuhrer and half of the fan base. Go figure?

Because Romo was a better QB than Dak, plain and simple. I don't care about the stats. That 2013 team Romo led was garbage, yet they almost beat that SB team led by Peyton Manning in the regular season. Romo threw for over 500 yards trying to keep up. Had that been Dak, we would have lost 63-10! Romo elevated the players around him, Dak never does. I see this. Other people see this. The owner probably sees it as well. But you quote stats.

These QBs don't play in a vacuum. The teams Romo had are not the teams Dak had or has. You can't make a statistical comparison between the two because it doesn't make any logical sense.

 

[Hawkeye19]

most of us are waiting for the actual team to show up and actually have a physical offensive line a more effective run game a better defense and special teams all in the same game with the coaching staff devising a game plan that if it blows up they actually adapt to it you know like Troy had Emmett and that offensive line defense and coaching staff you know like Roger had Tom Landry and that run game in Tony Dorsett and others with that physical offensive line and a defense that earned several monikers you mean those teams that we're searching for yeah it would be nice if you took Prescott's name out of it and just put in the word team we are crossing our fingers waiting that the team finds their nut because right now that's not happening most of these games we've lost it's been far more than a quarterback issue and it's hard to play quarterback when you don't have a consistent offensive line run game defense or really anything people show up and start dropping passes defense giving up seven points right out-of-the-box defense giving 21 straight points right out the halftime playing the quarterback we're making a couple mistakes even though we watch our other famed quarterbacks make those same mistakes we watch Matthew Stafford lead the league in interceptions and throw two of them in the Super bowl and they still win why is it the 49ers wave with the make a comeback from their deficit in the playoffs and make the Super bowl after halftime having a similar offensive offense not playing well their team played better it enabled everyone to catch up...

So let's stop the nonsense we know the quarterbacks are paying more but they're also a part of the team and the team only functions with all the other moving parts working together for the same cause not having 11 penalties or missing blocks or dropping interceptions or missing a hit on kittles or defense giving up plays left and right getting gas for 10 yards per carry in the first half of the San Francisco game they somehow are getting credit for keeping the game close no they didn't play well we're losing as a team and the quarterback is not Superman it should never be counted on to play better then it's some of it's works it's hard to play quarterback when you don't have anything else going right in the game...​

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No. Not “next”. Lol

Just go look at the GB game again. The defense was atrocious— but Dak did NOTHING to stop the bleeding in the first half except throw an absolute BACK BREAKING INT that utterly killed any fight that may have still been in this team. Had he led the team to points then we could have been in a position to make a run or at least not have been down by so much.

His inability to make plays when this team needs its “superstar” to make a play— like you know— MaHomes or Rodgers do— is the chief reason this team doesn’t move forward in January.

Look at the 2 SF losses. The D actually kept the score reasonable in both games but DAK COULD NOT GET IT DONE. Period.

Next.

 

[blueblood70]

No. Not “next”. Lol

Just go look at the GB game again. The defense was atrocious— but Dak did NOTHING to stop the bleeding in the first half except throw an absolute BACK BREAKING INT that utterly killed any fight that may have still been in this team. Had he led the team to points then we could have been in a position to make a run or at least not have been down by so much.

His inability to make plays when this team needs its “superstar” to make a play— like you know— MaHomes or Rodgers do— is the chief reason this team doesn’t move forward in January.

Look at the 2 SF losses. The D actually kept the score reasonable in both games but DAK COULD NOT GET IT DONE. Period.

Next.

Once again it is next because if you want to go breakdown those interceptions go show us how Brandon cooks got interfered with not once but twice on the 1st interception and how lamb went off script after the ball was already out of Prescott's hands and he broke up field but it doesn't matter the San Francisco 49ers were down at half the same scenario and they came back with their defense didn't give up 21 straight points out of the half.. Their defense special teams and coaching held the game in check long enough for the offense to finally get going ours did not... Troy Aikman and Roger Staubach I'm sorry they had every advantage you could ask for and still make mistakes I saw Troy have us down by 10 points at the half against Buffalo in the Super bowl because he played like garbage and what do we do ohh we came out ran the ball down their throats the defense got the ball back on the turnover and we finally got back in the game had nothing to do with Troy Troy was carried in many games because of that offensive line Emmitt Smith the defense and the coaching staff the same with Roger Staubach with the run game we don't see any of that in these playoff games we don't see any of that in the big games against the better teams that Prescott seems to be the only one we mentioned he's supposed to stop the bleeding hell they're getting to him with four men and we have no run game and they're playing zone because they don't have to put a whole lot of people up against the line that's obvious to the less than casual watchers.... Teams are taking everything away far too easily and that is hard for a quarterback to play one-dimensional football all game against one of the best teams in football!!!!

Prescott with no run game no offensive line and nobody getting open consistently ohh it's c lamb dropping passes and pouting early but yeah let's just talk about Prescott

Nope not happening

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[acr731]

Then look at wins.

Did you compare the defensive rankings? I have a feeling you might find that Romo had a very bad defense that year. But I know, we're trying to put Dak on a pedestal, not provide factual information

 

[Momanpr100]

If you can't win in the regular season, how do you win in the playoffs?

Is it better to be 0-0 in the playoffs as a QB?

Please make it make sense, some how.

These people don't get it.

 

[zrinkill]

Just find out where Dak is staying and serenade him outside the window.

 

[Hawkeye19]

Once again it is next because if you want to go breakdown those interceptions go show us how Brandon cooks got interfered with not once but twice on the 1st interception and how lamb went off script after the ball was already out of Prescott's hands and he broke up field but it doesn't matter the San Francisco 49ers were down at half the same scenario and they came back with their defense didn't give up 21 straight points out of the half.. Their defense special teams and coaching held the game in check long enough for the offense to finally get going ours did not... Troy Aikman and Roger Staubach I'm sorry they had every advantage you could ask for and still make mistakes I saw Troy have us down by 10 points at the half against Buffalo in the Super bowl because he played like garbage and what do we do ohh we came out ran the ball down their throats the defense got the ball back on the turnover and we finally got back in the game had nothing to do with Troy Troy was carried in many games because of that offensive line Emmitt Smith the defense and the coaching staff the same with Roger Staubach with the run game we don't see any of that in these playoff games we don't see any of that in the big games against the better teams that Prescott seems to be the only one we mentioned he's supposed to stop the bleeding hell they're getting to him with four men and we have no run game and they're playing zone because they don't have to put a whole lot of people up against the line that's obvious to the less than casual watchers.... Teams are taking everything away far too easily and that is hard for a quarterback to play one-dimensional football all game against one of the best teams in football!!!!

Prescott with no run game no offensive line and nobody getting open consistently ohh it's c lamb dropping passes and pouting early but yeah let's just talk about Prescott

Nope not happening

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We can just agree to disagree bro. For the record, I hope Dak plays lights out and the team finally puts it all together in the playoffs.

 

[65fastback2plus2]

FACTS!!!

PS: Only correction...Dak was 2nd in the whole NFL MVP voting.

Tony was T for 3rd in MVP voting with ANOTHER cowboy taking votes from him.

 

[ArtClink]

It's crystal clear as to why the difference in attitude.

Romo = Do more with less.
Dak = Needs everything perfect around him.

Come on fellas. Even Jerry can see that.

Parcells built a legitimate Super Bowl roster around Romo and that 2007 team was the #1 seed and Romo couldn't get it down vs Giants. Dak has never played with a defense as good as Romo had with the 2007 team that Parcells built.

 

[btgboys41]

Love Dak grievance threads. Can’t get enough of them.

 

[noshame]

Good now switch players and seasons and see how Dak does LOL.

 

[shabazz]

Then look at wins.

Good point.......playoff wins

Romo 2-4
Dakota 2-5

Resplendent

 

[beware_d-ware]

Things clicked big time for Romo around 2013. I think he even said so himself.

I can't find the source, but I'm going to repeat this story anyway. Around that time, he told Jason Garrett that "3rd down is my down", and just started calling his own plays there. Totally ignored the clapping carrot.

Anyway, Romo was a legit MVP, Super Bowl caliber quarterback by the end of his career. He was playing like the best Cowboys quarterback since Aikman, and maybe even better. He just physically could not stay on the field.

Dak hasn't been bad, but he has never shown the same level of high-end ability as Romo. If you paired Dak's early career, LB-esque athleticism with his current mental mastery of the game, then you might have something special. But he really only perfected his technique and command of the offense at the time that injuries started physically sapping him.

Peak Romo was straight-up smarter than his own offensive staff, and also still had all of his Favre-ian improvisational ability. He was going places. I'd compare him to Joe Burrow today - very similar styles and ability. Dak started off like a Donovan McNabb - sort of a thick, strong, inaccurate gamer - and aged or developed into a Kirk Cousins type maxed-out technician.

 

[DogFace]

Lol… “make it make sense”

I don’t see anyone bashing Dak’s regular season record. He has played well and made his name that way.

All the issues come down to his repeated choke jobs in the postseason. If past performance is the best indicator of future performance— why would we pay him more for the same results?

The fans that are critical of him just don’t believe him to be capable at this point of getting it done. And when he tells us all to just “move on” from the GB debacle— it shows he is not really in touch with how many times he and the team have crapped the bed since he took the reins

People bash his palyoff record? That’s the extent of it?

Come on man.

 

[CowboysRule]

FACTS!!!

PS: Only correction...Dak was 2nd in the whole NFL MVP voting.

He got one single vote.

 

[TheCritic]

It could be that Romo was the lesson of overpaying for an older QB with a poor playoff record or it could have something to with the Jones Klan themselves. You pick.