Dallas Cowboys could have a worse owner

Plankton · Nov 7, 2014

Fletch said:
We'll just agree that I'm right rather than bothering with the whole disagree thingy.

Even in the spirit of agreement, I can't do that. Not on this subject.

BringBackThatOleTimeBoys · Nov 7, 2014

DFWJC said:
Jerry's an excellent owner.
Jerry the GM on the other hand.....

Exactly.

Hate to say this, but at some point he will considered for the HoF.

I'd go so far as to say members of the HoF panel that never voted for a Cowboy will vote for him.

If it's not obvious, his performance as GM should preclude his induction.

DFWJC · Nov 7, 2014

BringBackThatOleTimeBoys said:
Exactly.

Hate to say this, but at some point he will considered for the HoF.

I'd go so far as to say members of the HoF panel that never voted for a Cowboy will vote for him.

If it's not obvious, his performance as GM should preclude his induction.

For the most part, yes.

Then there the is the obvious--that being that owner is responsible for who is the GM.
As an owner, that is main weakness...again, obviously.

Nav22 · Nov 7, 2014

Did you guys enjoy those 3 Super Bowls? Thank the man who hired Jimmy and allowed him to do his thing.

xwalker · Nov 7, 2014

MissouriCowboy said:
Just a thought from a Cowboy fan living in Missouri. Much as JJ gets ragged on at least he cares. I live a state with Chief and Ram fans and let me tell you the Rams owner does not care. In fact I bet they leave for L.a.
The Chiefs are cheap and they never have drafted a starting Qb in years and as long as Hunt family puts butts in seats he will never spend money.

Yes, the real (not just salary cap) dollars that Jerry has spent over the years is something that wouldn't happeen with most NFL owners. That includes mega contracts with mega up front money and spending big money on assistant coaches, etc..

GimmeTheBall! · Nov 7, 2014

LandryFan said:
I taught Navy JROTC. I also stayed at the Holiday Inn Express last night, so maybe I can help. But then again, you may be beyond help...

Why did you mention Holiday Inn? I wasn't there and she wasn't there and I don't know her name and I was at the Moose Lodge far away.

BringBackThatOleTimeBoys · Nov 7, 2014

Nav22 said:
Did you guys enjoy those 3 Super Bowls? Thank the man who hired Jimmy and allowed him to do his thing.

Let me play the Devil's Advocate with this bait....at times I will probably sound like Jerry Jones himself.

I am alone am responsible for those three SBs - me.

I found Jimmy.

Hell, Barry Switzer deserves more credit than Jimmy - what did he do in Miami?

There are a dozen teams that have won 1-3 SBs since 1997, BUT WE ARE THE GREATEST TV SHOW! HOW ABOUT THEM COWBOYS!!!

/end sarcasm

Jerry had a role, but broke up a winning formula. No one person can win a SB today, even Al Davis in his last 20 years.

Jerry knows the energy business, the front office in sports, but he did delegate at one time on football matters....the SB wins stopped shortly after he stopped doing that. Homers attempting to suggest Jerry was mostly responsible for the day-to-day football decisions that built that dynasty, only have to honestly look at what's happened since to know he didn't

Nav22 · Nov 7, 2014

BringBackThatOleTimeBoys said:
Let me play the Devil's Advocate with this bait....at times I will probably sound like Jerry Jones himself.

I am alone am responsible for those three SBs - me.

I found Jimmy.

Hell, Barry Switzer deserves more credit than Jimmy - what did he do in Miami?

There are a dozen teams that have won 1-3 SBs since 1997, BUT WE ARE THE GREATEST TV SHOW! HOW ABOUT THEM COWBOYS!!!

/end sarcasm

Jerry had a role, but broke up a winning formula. No one person can win a SB today, even Al Davis in his last 20 years.

Jerry knows the energy business, the front office in sports, but he did delegate at one time on football matters....the SB wins stopped shortly after he stopped doing that. Homers attempting to suggest Jerry was mostly responsible for the day-to-day football decisions that built that dynasty, only have to honestly look at what's happened since to know he didn't

Jerry had the most important role by far. He bought the team and hired the right people. Without those moves none of the other stuff ever ends up happening. But when you dislike someone badly enough, it's not too difficult to strip them of credit.

Our 3 Super Bowls since 1992 is still tied for most in the league during that span. Jerry also restored the Cowboys (who were a MESS when he bought the team) as America's Team with his brilliant, revolutionary marketing tactics and, oh yeah, built the greatest stadium in the world for his team to play in.

Hell of an owner. Parcells loves the guy for a reason.

BringBackThatOleTimeBoys · Nov 7, 2014

Why has he been unable to come close to the success of 1992-1996 since?

Risen Star · Nov 7, 2014

LandryFan said:
Uh, yea. Like it or not, he did own the team in the 90's when they won three SB's. Look, I'm not a Jones apologist by any means, but he's not the worst owner in the league, not even close. So yes, we could do worse, as hard as that is for some to believe.

There isn't an owner in sports I wouldn't rather have.

BringBackThatOleTimeBoys · Nov 7, 2014

Nav22 said:
Did you guys enjoy those 3 Super Bowls? Thank the man who hired Jimmy and allowed him to do his thing.

This is how I should have responded: So it would have happened without Jimmy?

BigStar · Nov 7, 2014

Risen Star said:
There isn't an owner in sports I wouldn't rather have.

Nav22 · Nov 7, 2014

BringBackThatOleTimeBoys said:
This is how I should have responded: So it would have happened without Jimmy?

Nope. But it also wouldn't have happeed without Jerry. Or without Aikman. Or without Emmitt. Etc. What's your point?

When you buy a football team, hire great people to run the team and win 3 Super Bowls as a result, you deserve BOATLOADS of credit. You're spinning your wheels if you're trying to convince yourself otherwise.

Nav22 · Nov 7, 2014

BringBackThatOleTimeBoys said:
Why has he been unable to come close to the success of 1992-1996 since?

Because there's other NFL teams who also want to win Super Bowls?

Why did Jimmy fail with the Dolphins?

big dog cowboy · Nov 7, 2014

Risen Star said:
There isn't an owner in sports I wouldn't rather have.

So funny I forgot to laugh.

Beast_from_East · Nov 7, 2014

Jerry cares about winning more than anybody and he will spend the money to prove it.

The problem is who he spends the money on (bad at evaluating talent as GM)

MissouriCowboy · Nov 8, 2014

LandryFan said:
OK. I live in Marshfield, work at Bass Pro Corporate Office in Springfield. There's quite a few Dallas fans in this neck of the woods.

SwMo has a lot of Dallas fans. Marshfield Bluejays in the House.

MissouriCowboy · Nov 8, 2014

LandryFan said:
Clever...

Clever,Missouri.

black label · Nov 8, 2014

MissouriCowboy said:
Just a thought from a Cowboy fan living in Missouri. Much as JJ gets ragged on at least he cares. I live a state with Chief and Ram fans and let me tell you the Rams owner does not care. In fact I bet they leave for L.a.
The Chiefs are cheap and they never have drafted a starting Qb in years and as long as Hunt family puts butts in seats he will never spend money.

BringBackThatOleTimeBoys · Nov 8, 2014

Nav22 said:
Because there's other NFL teams who also want to win Super Bowls?

Why did Jimmy fail with the Dolphins?

I can say Jimmy lost some of his edge in Miami, but can you say Jerry has lost some of his edge since 1996? Think I know the answer.

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