Dallas Cowboys' Romo poised to be passed over for Pro Bowl

[joseephuss]

lol. I think Warner and Brees should make it over Romo this season easily.

Why? I think both guys are deserving of the Pro-Bowl, but I don't think that either should easily make it over Romo. It is still up in the air in my opinion and should come down to the next couple of games. It is too bad that voting ends before the season ends because the next 4 games are going to be big for Dallas and for the Saints and Cardinals as well.

Romo has had 3 games this year where his QB rating was less than 100 with the lowest being 72.8.

Brees has 5 games this year where his QB rating was less than 70 with all 5 being losses.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Eli Manning should go to Hawaii because of what? What dumb *** reasoning.

 

[AbeBeta]

2007 was his lowest QB rating yet as a starter for a full season...

Before entering the last game of the regular season last year, he'd thrown more interceptions than touchdowns. He lead the league in interceptions. First quarterback to ever do that and win the Super Bowl in the same year.

Just saying. The guy's not been an outstanding quarterback thus far in his career. Particularly his completion percentage and YPA have been below average for his entire career, aside from this year.

Son, I say this seriously. You need to learn to interpret statistics. Manning 2007 stats were his "worst" for the regular season. However for the post season - you know, when stuff REALLY matters - he dropped a 95.7 PR.

Ignoring playoff performance is about the dumbest thing anyone can do in evaluating a player.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

a popular, Nationally known, 2-time Pro Bowler, with great stats getting passed over...

not on your life

 

[AbeBeta]

Eli Manning should go to Hawaii because of what? What dumb *** reasoning.

Let's see. His last 16 games (this season and last year's post season)

62% completions. 3478 yards. 25 TD. 9 Int. 92.4 PR.

And the most important stat. 15-1. 4 playoff victories.

Please don't say the guy hasn't done anything. It just makes your fellow Cowboy fans seem ignorant.

 

[Dave_in-NC]

Let's see. His last 16 games (this season and last year's post season)

62% completions. 3478 yards. 25 TD. 9 Int. 92.4 PR.

And the most important stat. 15-1. 4 playoff victories.

Please don't say the guy hasn't done anything. It just makes your fellow Cowboy fans seem ignorant.

 

[Givincer]

Son, I say this seriously. You need to learn to interpret statistics. Manning 2007 stats were his "worst" for the regular season. However for the post season - you know, when stuff REALLY matters - he dropped a 95.7 PR.

I think stuff was "really matterin'" when they almost missed the playoffs in the useless and pointless regular season.

Ignoring playoff performance is about the dumbest thing anyone can do in evaluating a player.

I'm not ignoring it; I'm giving it proper context. I said regular season. There's a reason no quarterback has ever lead the league in interceptions and gone on to win the Super Bowl. Those teams often can't overcome their quarterback's turnovers enough to even make the playoffs.

 

[theogt]

Let's see. His last 16 games (this season and last year's post season)

62% completions. 3478 yards. 25 TD. 9 Int. 92.4 PR.

And the most important stat. 15-1. 4 playoff victories.

Please don't say the guy hasn't done anything. It just makes your fellow Cowboy fans seem ignorant.

Why would you consider last season's performance into this year's pro bowl performance?

He's the 5th rated passer in the NFC. He happens to be on a team with an otherworldy running game and a fantastic defense. Other than that, he's nothing special. I'm not saying he sucks or anything, but is he a top QB in his conference? No.

 

[Givincer]

Why would you consider last season's performance into this year's pro bowl performance?

He's the 5th rated passer in the NFC. He happens to be on a team with an otherworldy running game and a fantastic defense. Other than that, he's nothing special. I'm not saying he sucks or anything, but is he a top QB in his conference? No.

To think I was just taught a lesson in interpreting statistics! :laugh2:

I agree, entirely, with paragraph #2.

 

[AbeBeta]

Why would you consider last season's performance into this year's pro bowl performance?

He's the 5th rated passer in the NFC. He happens to be on a team with an otherworldy running game and a fantastic defense. Other than that, he's nothing special. I'm not saying he sucks or anything, but is he a top QB in his conference? No.

Why wouldn't you consider performances that postdated the pro bowl vote?

You know players and coaches who have a decision do.

He is not the best QB in his conference. But he is the most successful.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

damn Abe, quit being so damn contrarian

 

[AbeBeta]

I think stuff was "really matterin'" when they almost missed the playoffs in the useless and pointless regular season.

oooooh. ALMOST missed the playoffs. that's MUCH better than almost winning a playoff game.

 

[Givincer]

Why wouldn't you consider performances that postdated the pro bowl vote?

You know players and coaches who have a decision do.

He is not the best QB in his conference. But he is the most successful.

Depending on how you define success I guess, right?

If success of an individual player is completely a function of wins, then you're right.

But I think most people would probably take more into consideration than wins when evaluating a player's level of play, and whether or not they deserve to be in the pro bowl.

 

[AbeBeta]

damn Abe, quit being so damn contrarian

All I've said here is that Manning is a lot better than he gets credit for. Me, I'd put him in the probowl with Romo and Warner. Brees can suck it b/c his team stinks.

 

[AbeBeta]

Depending on how you define success I guess, right?

If success of an individual player is completely a function of wins, then you're right.

But I think most people would probably take more into consideration than wins when evaluating a player's level of play, and whether or not they deserve to be in the pro bowl.

What MORE is there. He's got pretty good stats and a 15-1 record. The only knock here is that you wouldn't want him on your fantasy team.

 

[Givincer]

oooooh. ALMOST missed the playoffs. that's MUCH better than almost winning a playoff game.

Did I say that?

Honestly?

 

[theogt]

Why wouldn't you consider performances that postdated the pro bowl vote?

Because it's not from this season, perhaps?

He is not the best QB in his conference. But he is the most successful.

He's not even in the top 3 best QBs in his conference this season. You make a good point, though, that QBs get too much credit at times for their team's success.

 

[Dave_in-NC]

Because it's not from this season, perhaps?

He's not even in the top 3 best QBs in his conference this season. You make a good point, though, that QBs get too much credit at times for their team's success.

If they continue to win, with his family background he's in. It's how it works.

 

[theogt]

If they continue to win, with his family background he's in. It's how it works.

I'm well aware that undeserving players get awards. Such is life.

 

[Dave_in-NC]

I'm well aware that undeserving players get awards. Such is life.

Yup. Look at our own flozell. He's good but all them probowls?