Dallas didn't need to re- sign Dak

[Chasing6]

No he won't, but without Jerry Dak wouldn't be on a contract that will kill us for another two years

So the problem is Jerry not Dak.

 

[CowboyoWales]

Your right Dilfer carried the Ravens.

You're actually arguing my point ..... Less talented QB (on much lesser CAP %) > vastly overpaid QB that's good / but only when everything's going his way .

 

[CowboyoWales]

So the problem is Jerry not Dak.

It's Jerry and Dak. Dak insisted on the contracts LENGTH, and the NTC. They are linked, one inept and the other Jerry.

 

[Chasing6]

It's Jerry and Dak. Dak insisted on the contracts LENGTH, and the NTC. They are linked, one inept and the other Jerry.

Jerry gave Dak the contract. Dak did not give Jerry a contract.

 

[Chasing6]

You're actually arguing my point ..... Less talented QB (on much lesser CAP %) > vastly overpaid QB that's good / but only when everything's going his way .

No you are proving mine. QB's do not carry a team to win a SB.

 

[CowboyoWales]

Jerry gave Dak the contract. Dak did not give Jerry a contract.

So you agree the contract was a mess and we'd be better off not having the Dak contract like a millstone around our neck?

 

[CowboyoWales]

No you are proving mine. QB's do not carry a team to win a SB.

They do (should do) if they are on a minimum 17% CAP.
Pay him more, for less responsibility.
So you agree that Jerry shouldn't of given the contract.... We welcome you to the Dak Haters.

 

[KingCorcoran]

We will never know but something tells me Dak would not have had the market you think. Especially after this year.

I 100% agree with you. But, Jerry Jones felt he could not wait. Apparently he felt $60 million per season, four years, $231 million guaranteed was less of a risk than losing Dak as the team’s quarterback. Hindsight is always 20/20. Jerry made the mistake. Dak didn’t. Fans’ vitriol for Dak and his agent is misplaced. They both did what they were supposed to do.

If Jerry Jones took his responsibilities as GM of the Dallas Cowboys as seriously and effectively as Todd France takes his responsibilities as a player agent the Cowboys would not be in the predicament they find themselves.

Dak’s the one rehabbing from an on field injury that required surgery. Jerry’s downing Johnnie Walker Blue and yukking it up with Eagles fans yesterday. Look hard at that.

 

[Chasing6]

So you agree the contract was a mess and we'd be better off not having the Dak contract like a millstone around our neck?

I believe Jerry is a mess.
The Zeke contract was a mess.
Most recently Martin's contract was a disaster.
Cooper trade was a huge set back.
Signing big contract with an injured Gallup.
Signing big contract with injured Steele.
Trance trade was idiotic with no plan for him. Choosing to not participate in FA is beyond stupid.
Reaching and not drafting the best player available is a disaster.
Waiting until the last minute to resign players, while pretending like we have no money.
Afraid to move on from a coach because it would cause "Dead Money".
Not hiring BIll Belichick because you know your ego is to big.

I am sure they are many more, never mind how dumb he was to run out Jimmy Johnson.

 

[CowboyoWales]

I believe Jerry is a mess.
The Zeke contract was a mess.
Most recently Martin's contract was a disaster.
Cooper trade was a huge set back.
Signing big contract with an injured Gallup.
Signing big contract with injured Steele.
Trance trade was idiotic with no plan for him. Choosing to not participate in FA is beyond stupid.
Reaching and not drafting the best player available is a disaster.
Waiting until the last minute to resign players, while pretending like we have no money.
Afraid to move on from a coach because it would cause "Dead Money".
Not hiring BIll Belichick because you know your ego is to big.

I am sure they are many more, never mind how dumb he was to run out Jimmy Johnson.

Dak Excuse Alert.
I agree with most of that (especially Jerry), however, you missed out on Dak, did you support the Dak contract (then and now)?
You can't have the list of above without the Dak contract.
I'm sure someone will go and check on your posts at signing time?

 

[Blitzen]

Dak was going to be paid a lot of money to play quarterback somewhere. Just like Burrow, like Goff, like Lawrence, and others. Jerry waited and who knows what Dak’s agent told him, but it prompted Jerry to acquiesce. The difference between Dak’s and Goff’s contract is not the difference between be able to compete for the NFC championship and missing the playoffs. Burrow is playing outstanding this season. Bengals will almost certainly miss the payoffs, too. So the difference between a shot at the Super Bowl and missing the playoffs must lie somewhere other than just your quarterback.

Prescott has a lot of football left. Jerry committed to him, now Jerry has to find the other 52 guys and a head coach to make it happen. It’s on the owner/GM, not Dak Prescott. Dak’s deal is about the only thing Jerry’s done right in recent years.

Lol, Dak’s contract is the only thing Jerry has done right…Holy hell the agenda. Dak was absolute garbage this season. He has lots of money left in the contract coming to him-and thus will be on the field lots in the future even if he’s missing a leg. I would not bet on him having much quality football left. If this year is foreshadowing his future capability-look out.

 

[SwagSurfer]

Thank you for continuing to beat this dead horse for us.

 

[CowboyoWales]

Dak was going to be paid a lot of money to play quarterback somewhere. Just like Burrow, like Goff, like Lawrence, and others. Jerry waited and who knows what Dak’s agent told him, but it prompted Jerry to acquiesce. The difference between Dak’s and Goff’s contract is not the difference between be able to compete for the NFC championship and missing the playoffs. Burrow is playing outstanding this season. Bengals will almost certainly miss the payoffs, too. So the difference between a shot at the Super Bowl and missing the playoffs must lie somewhere other than just your quarterback.

Prescott has a lot of football left. Jerry committed to him, now Jerry has to find the other 52 guys and a head coach to make it happen. It’s on the owner/GM, not Dak Prescott. Dak’s deal is about the only thing Jerry’s done right in recent years.

No, the big differences between Goff and Dak's contracts is that Dak's comes with $40m restructured money (which benefitted the team and Dak in the 12-5 years), Dak is crocked (and older, meaning he's highly unlikely to get another contract) and that when it comes down to weaknesses....the Lions can overcome Goff's issue with his inability to play when pressured (by building an O-Line)....Dak just needs too much: running game, receivers, O-Line, run defense etc....I doubt Johnson could get more out of his one man progression and lack of composure (panicking to get the ball out).

 

[Chasing6]

Dak Excuse Alert.
I agree with most of that (especially Jerry), however, you missed out on Dak, did you support the Dak contract (then and now)?
You can't have the list of above without the Dak contract.
I'm sure someone will go and check on your posts at signing time?

Especially Jerry? It is all Jerry. I will never blame a player for making as much as they can.

When did I say I approved of what Jerry paid him?

Jerry backed himself into a corner. Dak did not put Jerry in a corner. Jerry made Dak's contract. Jerry decided to have no replacement plan. Trance was not a plan.

Jerry is not a victim.

 

[CowboyoWales]

Especially Jerry? It is all Jerry. I will never blame a player for making as much as they can.

When did I say I approved of what Jerry paid him?

Jerry backed himself into a corner. Dak did not put Jerry in a corner. Jerry made Dak's contract. Jerry decided to have no replacement plan. Trance was not a plan.

Jerry is not a victim.

It IS Jerry. But you're supporting Dak's signing, which is one of Jerry's biggest mistakes, bigger than anything you've mentioned in #129 (which surprisingly didn't include the Dak contract).
Jerry and Dak are indelibly linked by that contract, not particularly the aav, but the timing, length and NTC.
Just can't double down, take the hit in 2025 and post -June cut him in 2026 if we can't build around him.

 

[Bagman]

The Cowboys are not going to acquire a better quarterback than Dak Prescott anytime soon. All of his detractors here know it. He’s a very good quarterback. Jerry knew it and did what had to be done to retain him.

“What ifs” and “if onlys” are part of the fun of being a fan. Prescott is one of the best players on the Cowboys’ roster. Concocting alternate rosters, though, is a fantasy particularly popular with fans whose team loses more than it wins. The Cowboys have joined that group of teams and brought their fans with them.

Then why can't the Cowboys win anything? After all, they have Dak.

 

[Chasing6]

It IS Jerry. But you're supporting Dak's signing, which is one of Jerry's biggest mistakes, bigger than anything you've mentioned in #129 (which surprisingly didn't include the Dak contract).
Jerry and Dak are indelibly linked by that contract, not particularly the aav, but the timing, length and NTC.
Just can't double down, take the hit in 2025 and post -June cut him in 2026 if we can't build around him.

You are confused. I support Dak. Not his contract.

 

[KingCorcoran]

Then why can't the Cowboys win anything? After all, they have Dak.

Because the owner of the team, who is the acting General Manager, lacks the requisite knowledge, imagination, and courage to build a NFL team that can realistically compete for a conference championship on any consistent basis.

The Cowboys have a few pieces personnel-wise. Dak is one of those pieces. Yesterday is a clear indication of the difference. The Eagles also overpaid for a quarterback. He’s out injured, again, they were starting some other team’s first round bust quarterback who has broken ribs, was wearing a flak jacket and had pain killer injected prior to the game, he still got knocked out of the game, the third quarterback on the depth chart no one ever heard of came in and throws 2 touchdowns in five passing attempts. Apparently it takes more than just a good quarterback to win in the NFL. Jerry acquires better personnel and coaching or the Cowboys won’t “win anything”.

 

[Chasing6]

Then why can't the Cowboys win anything? After all, they have Dak.

Because Dak has Jerry.

 

[Whirlwin]

If we didn't have a QB that repeatedly fails when the clock is ticking down we could survive a Defense that struggles vrs the run (eg SF x2 play-off games).
It's being able to get a QB we can build around and it's clear that Dak needs too much / everything going right to achieve.

Yeah, the guy that people are looking for doesn’t exist