Dallas didn't need to re- sign Dak

[Sydla]

That isn't enough to compete in 2025....especially as those draft picks are latter rounds and will need developing and it doesn't much matter how much CAP we have: the number of roster holes, improvements needed, and other teams have as much/more disposable CAP and the allure of a decent chance of winning.
I'm no fan of Dak, but give him 2025 to decide on whether to post June cut in 2026.
Look to 'future building', not the Jerry model of always being relevant. Dak should be judged, not by raw stats (and MVP votes), but whether he can develop a game behind which we can build a successful Offense....if not go cheap/rookie QB from 2026 and build from the trenches outward.

They don't have to go hog wild in FA to get better.

A smart GM could improve this roster pretty easily in the offseason. We just don't have a smart GM.

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

At least you're out of the closet now all Non-Dak believers beware there is a double agent amongst us.....

Not sure what you're getting at.

Dak has nothing to do with my comment....at all.

Your right to comment as you wish, just like everyone else does...is what it was.

But....carry on.

 

[CowboyoWales]

Are we supposed to believe that a first year on the team Vikings QB Sam Darnold by himself elevated the team on his own???

Well no, but it's the theory that the alternative to this mythical view that a team needs a Franchise QB, is you build a team and fill in a cheaper QB.
We go back to the CAP% argument of winning QB's.....unless you're in the GOAT conversation you aren't getting to the SB with a 15% hit, it's all about the QB's ability to step up when the team CAP% reduces in incorporate the QB.

 

[Johannes44]

No, you just made that up in your head. It takes a team once you make the playoffs and we don’t have it. Defense has been holding us back for years.

Even when they held the 49-ers to under 20 points in 2023 and the offense once again went comatose?

 

[CowboyoWales]

They don't have to go hog wild in FA to get better.

A smart GM could improve this roster pretty easily in the offseason. We just don't have a smart GM.

Getting 'better', isn't the goal. From this starting point, getting better just puts in Jerry's favorite position... relevancy. We need a total rebuild, that means failure, Jerry ceding control and starting again. Dak's contract and injury has sealed the next couple of years.

 

[KingCorcoran]

I respect you and the opinion. I also think Dak is a good QB but they will never win with him. I think his skills are declining and he just flakes in big spots. Plus that contract is going to be an albatross. No way they needed to pay him that. Jerry could have let him test the market and then come in to sign him late. Imagine given this season…Dak would be worth a fraction of that deal. Jerry bid up against no one.

Dak was going to be paid a lot of money to play quarterback somewhere. Just like Burrow, like Goff, like Lawrence, and others. Jerry waited and who knows what Dak’s agent told him, but it prompted Jerry to acquiesce. The difference between Dak’s and Goff’s contract is not the difference between be able to compete for the NFC championship and missing the playoffs. Burrow is playing outstanding this season. Bengals will almost certainly miss the payoffs, too. So the difference between a shot at the Super Bowl and missing the playoffs must lie somewhere other than just your quarterback.

Prescott has a lot of football left. Jerry committed to him, now Jerry has to find the other 52 guys and a head coach to make it happen. It’s on the owner/GM, not Dak Prescott. Dak’s deal is about the only thing Jerry’s done right in recent years.

 

[CowboyoWales]

No, you just made that up in your head. It takes a team once you make the playoffs and we don’t have it. Defense has been holding us back for years.

If we didn't have a QB that repeatedly fails when the clock is ticking down we could survive a Defense that struggles vrs the run (eg SF x2 play-off games).
It's being able to get a QB we can build around and it's clear that Dak needs too much / everything going right to achieve.

 

[G2]

Yes they did. That's how it works. You sign your franchise players or they walk and you don't have franchise players. It's clear that you cannot expect back-ups to carry the wait an entire season.

 

[Johannes44]

Yes they did. That's how it works. You sign your franchise players or they walk and you don't have franchise players. It's clear that you cannot expect back-ups to carry the wait an entire season.

This would assume that Dak Prescott was a franchise player. Which is debatable.

 

[diamonddelts]

Can the cowboys trade Dak ? Or does his contract not allow it ?

It has a no trade clause. Again

 

[G2]

This would assume that Dak Prescott was a franchise player. Which is debatable.

Only for low football IQ fans. Professional teams and staff wholeheartedly understand.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

From a purely economic perspective, trading him in 2025 is a bitter pill to swallow. Like a $103MM dead money hit and $13MM in additional cap hits to take.

So we are riding Dak in 2025. Now if we had a smart GM, they'd put in place pieces around Dak to try to get the most out of him. That means possibly some more pieces along the OL, another talent at TB to put next to Dowdle, who appears to be a fine backup type TB, and then find a quality vet WR to pair with Lamb.

And this is all doable IF they used the draft AND free agency. But they don't. Because they are dumb.

my point was football related. its business related. there is no business reason to trade Dak, if cowboys are getting the publicity and airtime they are getting.
jerry got exactly what he wanted. air time
now a call to repalce Dak from across the media.
the fans are tuned in and have taken sides.

and all of this brings about exactly what jerry is looking for.

and Dak was top 20 in Jersey sales in 2023.

there is no business reason to trade or cut dak.

 

[KingCorcoran]

You are delusional — even Parsons didn’t list Dak in his top QBs (that is until he got pressure to from Jones). Parsons, Lamb, & the rest know that Dak is a choke artist in the big games. I would rather a QB who is a B- who plays his best in the big games than Dak who plays like a A+ against weak teams and a D- against good teams.

Parsons and Lamb notwithstanding, we can’t know if they think Dak is a “choke artist”. Parsons thinks Burrow should be MVP and Burrow will be watching the playoffs on TV like Prescott will this season. All quarterbacks play better against lesser teams than better ones.

Jerry Jones, owner/GM of the Dallas Cowboys made a commitment to Dak Prescott. All things considered Dak is better at playing quarterback in the NFL than Jerry is at being a GM in the NFL. Cowboys fans’ hopelessness right now lies at the feet of the owner.

 

[Sydla]

Getting 'better', isn't the goal. From this starting point, getting better just puts in Jerry's favorite position... relevancy. We need a total rebuild, that means failure, Jerry ceding control and starting again. Dak's contract and injury has sealed the next couple of years.

Disagree. If the Vikings can turn around this quickly and do it with Sam Darnold, a quality GM could turn this into a much better product.

We don't have that kind of GM and sadly, while I can also get on board with a total rebuild, we really don't have the GM for that either.

 

[Johannes44]

Only for low football IQ fans. Professional teams and staff wholeheartedly understand.

Yea? Which professional team was ready to hand him over 60 mil a year for terrible QB play?

 

[G2]

Yea? Which professional team was ready to hand him over 60 mil a year for terrible QB play?

Whatever. Cry more.

 

[KingCorcoran]

Why would Dak leave the Cowboys to go to an organization who will hold him accountable for his chokes!!!

Now that he’s got the big contract, perhaps he perceives another organization as more committed to winning. The owner/GM of the Dallas Cowboys does not seem to be able to develop a championship team. Now Prescott has nothing to lose. His willingness to take his services elsewhere is why he was paid so much by the Cowboys In the first place.

He controls being traded, as well. The Cowboys have quite a challenge ahead of them. Many want to blame Dak. I don’t.

 

[Cmac]

Is it the fact he is the highest paid, currently, or the fact he got paid still bothering you, despite the Owner/GM still lying to us?
Let's go over this again to get to the root of YOUR problem.

 

[Mannix]

Jerry caved in when he should of stayed strong. Darnold- Geno-rookies-and I'd say even Goff have been paid less and gone to other teams and made them competitive. That's all Dallas needed to do. Guys are arguing should Dak had taken less? Give him less for what? The same results???? What Jerry should of done was to just say no Then throw this season a way as he did any how. Then gone out to get Darnold or another free agent for 2025 and used the balance to build the defense to a top defensive level. Wasn't astrophysics here. Or Jerry could have just signed Dak a year earlier and got him for 40 or lower. But he didn't. Maybe Jerry is just the gift that keeps on giving. Players know in the end he will cave.

So nothing we can do now but move forward. My plan would be draft at 1 DE. 2. DT. 3. RB. 4. safety. 5. O-Lineman 6. Tight end. 7th best player left. McCarthy gone. I'd hire a great defensive HC and get him a great OC. It's not that hard if you just stick to a plan. Jerry is lying to all the Dallas Cowboy fanbase. Even with Dak's contract. Dallas will be near 70 million or better in cap money next season. Go out there and check for yourselves instead of listening to the two liars. I don't even believe Jerry wants to win anymore. For whatever reason. But Dallas can easily be back in the playoffs next season if they get a solid plan. Problem is moving forward. No one in this organization knows what a plan is. We get healthy we have the talent to win the East. But you have to have somebody with a plan.
P.S. might have some extra comp picks, so I'd use those for wideouts-Oline men or another defensive spot. Not to mention what could be done in free agency. So, I'm not sweating if we can get back to the top. We only need someone with a vision....

Caved into who??? Absolutely NOBODY outside of the pot stirring media was asking him to do anything!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[CowboyoWales]

Disagree. If the Vikings can turn around this quickly and do it with Sam Darnold, a quality GM could turn this into a much better product.

We don't have that kind of GM and sadly, while I can also get on board with a total rebuild, we really don't have the GM for that either.

So what are the similarities between us and the Vikings.....let's start at QB.
We aren't getting to a Championship game in 2025 or 2026. Just look at the roster we had in 2023, now try a best scenario for us in 2025.
You're falling into Jerry's aim to get to 'relevancy'.