Dallas has no weapons - Baldinger

[BlueStar22]

Weapons or not, it wouldn't have mattered the way Dak played. I heard Dak threw his helmet in disgust after the game, and even that was intercepted.

You don't think he would have played better with last year's WR core?

 

[Big_D]

You don't think he would have played better with last year's WR core?

They lost at home to the same team!

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Dak up until this year has had a set of different characters but he was not throwing the ball into coverage. Against the 49ers it was robber coverage and he just was not seeing it.

It was basically him coming back and they could not figure it out. I don't know enough about the design of the offense to really comment on where the disconnect but if you want to fix the problem it is somewhere in there.

Talking about more guys to throw to or fixating on the top executives is working around the problem.

I like McCarthy. I like him a lot in terms of player development, leadership, and management. He clearly knows what he is doing on both sides of the ball as he will influence both sides of the ball. He's reined in Moore quite a bit. Quinn wouldn't have the room to perform just anywhere either. I love the way he has empowered Fassel. They all clearly work together.

But 9 games of the same problem with zero solution speaks to incompetence. Robber coverage is what it is and we've seen other QBs struggle with seeing it. That is kind of the point though.

I would be fine with McCarthy firing Moore and/or Nussmeier. If there is one person whose job it is to fix the quarterback's turnover issues it would be Nussmeier. They all three clearly failed here in a way that cost us the season.

 

[America's Cowboy]

Having no weapons didnt make him throw those 2 interceptions, the 1st one he didnt even look and just threw with no pressure , if he looked would have seen CB has let Gallup go and jumping the route. If he lead Gallup it would have been a pitch and catch for a long gain.

2nd was worst , even if that was the play call he shouldn’t have thrown , kept the ball and picked 2 yards, of throw legitimately so taht WR can get it, not to his knee / ankle.

Go to the Kurt Warner thread and watch his video breakdown. He explains how that 2nd pick was on CeeDee.

 

[Thomas82]

I 100% disagree with what he said about CeeDee.

 

[America's Cowboy]

Having no weapons didnt make him throw those 2 interceptions, the 1st one he didnt even look and just threw with no pressure , if he looked would have seen CB has let Gallup go and jumping the route. If he lead Gallup it would have been a pitch and catch for a long gain.

2nd was worst , even if that was the play call he shouldn’t have thrown , kept the ball and picked 2 yards, of throw legitimately so taht WR can get it, not to his knee / ankle.

There is video to prove that 2nd pick throw was not at CeeDee's knees or ankles? Why do some posters go to such extremes to say such things when the film shows otherwise? By the way, in the Kurt Warner thread, Kurt Warner explained how that 2nd interception was more on CeeDee instead of Dak. Bad route running. Not the first, second or third interception caused due to bad route running.

 

[XXLMike]

You lost all credibility when you said he's not a YAC guy. Or explosive. Or top 10. Name me 10 receivers better, I wanna see what you come up with!

He’s not top 10 - he had a very very good year .
He won me over .
We still need a bigtime play maker .

 

[cristglo]

The bottom line is Dak has to do better. Plain and simple!
STOP with getting rid of Dak It just isn't going to happen it's the fate of the Cowboys.
Dak needs to spend his off-season with someone that can help him see the field better.
WE have weapons Dak just couldn't get the ball to them. Dak left way too many yards on the field.
Kellen Moore's time should be over here. Jerry needs to bite the bullet and make the decision and get rid of him and bring in someone who can help Dak.
Zeke, a player I love shouldn't be the #1 He has lost a step. If he takes a pay cut I would keep him because he is a great #2
Dig Deep for a DC I would do my best to try to get Quinn to stay one more year but there are just too many openings this year and Quinn can have his pick.
As long as we have Dak that plays like he did this past season what good will having OBJ CeeDee Hopkins be if Dak can't see the field to get them the ball? Dak isn't the QB that you gun sling he thrives when we can run the ball. If you want to win with Dak need to build this Offense around the run game. Moore never used the weapons that we did have. When year after year we hear about the play calling and predictability WHY is Moore still OC?

 

[Gaede]

I can't believe people in this thread are saying we have weapons.

We have Pollard and Cedee.

What team would envy us for having Michael Gallup off a serious injury, TY Hilton off the street, and Noah 'hands team' Brown? Those are literally our top receivers. Not a single one of them is a threat in ANY way to DBs. Not one.

At TE, Schultz is a nice player but no one's scared of him. Same for the backups.

Zeke is, well, we know. Defenses are more than happy for Zeke to get his 15 carries for 29 yds a game.

Frankly, it's insane some of you are even debating this. I understand questioning the Cedee isn't a 1 thing, but seriously? You're gonna stand up for Noah Brown? We started the ******* year with Dennis Houston at WR. When we realized we had a chance in the playoffs, we signed a washed up veteran who hadn't played for a long time. Those were our weapons this year!!!

 

[cnuball21]

I can't believe people in this thread are saying we have weapons.

We have Pollard and Cedee.

What team would envy us for having Michael Gallup off a serious injury, TY Hilton off the street, and Noah 'hands team' Brown? Those are literally our top receivers. Not a single one of them is a threat in ANY way to DBs. Not one.

At TE, Schultz is a nice player but no one's scared of him. Same for the backups.

Zeke is, well, we know. Defenses are more than happy for Zeke to get his 15 carries for 29 yds a game.

Frankly, it's insane some of you are even debating this. I understand questioning the Cedee isn't a 1 thing, but seriously? You're gonna stand up for Noah Brown? We started the ******* year with Dennis Houston at WR. When we realized we had a chance in the playoffs, we signed a washed up veteran who hadn't played for a long time. Those were our weapons this year!!!

Because a lot of fans are fickle, have recency bias and form their opinions on emotions rather than facts. If someone does nt like the QB blunders go on and everything is his fault.

Dak played poorly against SF but we also are in desperate need of more weapons to be a legit championship contender. Both can be true. I don’t know why this is so hard for some to grasp.

 

[DStar22]

Well, he didn’t actually say that it when it comes down to after Pollard and cd lamb, we have nothing.

Brian baldinger on Dallas ,
CD Lamb was moved around like a 1 - he has stats like a 1 .
He’s not a 1
He’s no chase brown etc
They asked a LOT of him.
He’s a 1B tops - not enough.

After that DALLAS has no weapons after pollard got hurt.

They are in major need of Speed and weapons .

Dak not enough around him .

Horrific early int - he threw that same pick earlier in the year . He didn’t even look just threw it .
Micah Parsons was unbelievable- he blew up their all pro tackle - played the middle v Deebo v kittle - kittle couldn’t block him.
Then played the outside .

But the Dallas D is more Quinn than talent.
If Quinn leaves it’s a disaster .

SF have no weakness anywhere - and Dallas had a legit chance.

SF D zone is unbelievable and completely befuddled Dak.

Tyron Smith handled Bosa - he’s not done .

Hosts wondered about keeping Smith and letting Steele leave - save $10 million .

Philly best secondary in football

SF best LB’s

Philly best in trenches

To restate he really really emphasized that losing Dan Quinn is a disaster

TY Hilton was WIDE OPEN on a post for a TD we sorely needed in the game against SF, but was not thrown to, yet we have no playerS?

did LAMB force the throw into double coverage that was intercepted?

 

[Sydla]

I can't believe people in this thread are saying we have weapons.

We have Pollard and Cedee.

What team would envy us for having Michael Gallup off a serious injury, TY Hilton off the street, and Noah 'hands team' Brown? Those are literally our top receivers. Not a single one of them is a threat in ANY way to DBs. Not one.

At TE, Schultz is a nice player but no one's scared of him. Same for the backups.

Zeke is, well, we know. Defenses are more than happy for Zeke to get his 15 carries for 29 yds a game.

Frankly, it's insane some of you are even debating this. I understand questioning the Cedee isn't a 1 thing, but seriously? You're gonna stand up for Noah Brown? We started the ******* year with Dennis Houston at WR. When we realized we had a chance in the playoffs, we signed a washed up veteran who hadn't played for a long time. Those were our weapons this year!!!

Part of it is just frustration that whenever Dak struggles, it's always the WRs fault, he has no weapons, TEs are bad, the OL sucks, the scheme blows, McCarthy is bad, Moore is a turd, etc.

After awhile the constant whining about everything around Dak while not putting any real blame on Dak for the problems gets old.

And let's be clear here. If Dak plays a bit better on Sunday, we are playing this weekend. It wasn't talent around him that had him force two bad interceptions. It wasn't talent around him that caused him to miss Ty Hilton wide open for a TD. It wasn't talent around him that threw a pass 4 yards behind Gallup when he was open on a crucial drive in the 4th Q.

Yeah there are some problems on O. We could use a WR upgrade. I think we need to continue to build the OL. I think we need to restructure what we do at TB (Elliott has to go). But Dak is a problem and when people start checking off the lack of weapons and Moore and the scheme and Elliott but don't mention Dak, it's kind of hard to take them seriously.

 

[Whirlwin]

He's definitely wrong about Lamb not being a #1 though... that's just stupid.

Lamb is not a number one receiver. He’s never wide-open. Almost never. And when he is on a crossing wrote, he drops the ball 50% of the time.

 

[Whirlwin]

TY Hilton was WIDE OPEN on a post for a TD we sorely needed in the game against SF, but was not thrown to, yet we have no playerS?

did LAMB force the throw into double coverage that was intercepted?

Yes, Prescott had all the Time in the world to find him. He wasn’t wide open until after the bowl was released.

 

[USArmyVet]

There is video to prove that 2nd pick throw was not at CeeDee's knees or ankles? Why do some posters go to such extremes to say such things when the film shows otherwise? By the way, in the Kurt Warner thread, Kurt Warner explained how that 2nd interception was more on CeeDee instead of Dak. Bad route running. Not the first, second or third interception caused due to bad route running.

There were 2 SF defenders right around Lamb but Dak makes the throw and somehow it is on Lamb. LOL You guys should get on Dak's PR payroll.

 

[Gaede]

Part of it is just frustration that whenever Dak struggles, it's always the WRs fault, he has no weapons, TEs are bad, the OL sucks, the scheme blows, McCarthy is bad, Moore is a turd, etc.

After awhile the constant whining about everything around Dak while not putting any real blame on Dak for the problems gets old.

And let's be clear here. If Dak plays a bit better on Sunday, we are playing this weekend. It wasn't talent around him that had him force two bad interceptions. It wasn't talent around him that caused him to miss Ty Hilton wide open for a TD. It wasn't talent around him that threw a pass 4 yards behind Gallup when he was open on a crucial drive in the 4th Q.

Yeah there are some problems on O. We could use a WR upgrade. I think we need to continue to build the OL. I think we need to restructure what we do at TB (Elliott has to go). But Dak is a problem and when people start checking off the lack of weapons and Moore and the scheme and Elliott but don't mention Dak, it's kind of hard to take them seriously.

I get it. If people complain about the players around Dak, others will assume they are giving Dak a free pass.

But both things are true: We lost the game because Dak played terribly and our offense lacks talent to truly threaten a good defense.

 

[BlueStar22]

They lost at home to the same I

They lost at home to the same team!

Overall, I think they were a better team this year and maybe if they still had Cooper and Pollard doesn't get injured, we win. Barely.

 

[bottleKids]

Yeah, you know more about football than Baldinger!

AC when its someone who also is a player / reporter that has direct NFL knowledge (Kurt Warner) a lot of you hammer them for negatives towards Dak. Why is it now that Baldinger is on point and right?

I think we all need to be open minded on both sides of this Dak debate. Me included!

 

[G2]

Baldinger is right, no playoff caliber team is going far in the postseason. He's right about how REALLY excellent the 49ers defense is. He's right that Dak needs more help so he's not doing too much. All of this should have been taken into account by the coaching staff after last season's whooping.
This is how football works.
If you don't have Josh Allen, Burrow or Mahomes you need better surroundings.
We stomped a mudhole into Tampa and Brady needed more help. It is what it is.

An interesting perspective is what Kurt Warner spoke about with regard to route concepts. Moore is a JG/Linehan clone and the scheme doesn't allow a QB like Dak to read progressions fast enough (against stout defenses) and as we saw vs. the 49ers, Dak was late on reads and throws. Sure the defense put a lot of pressure on Dak, but his footwork was crap, he was late on reads and throws and the "choice routes" Moore installs are not being used correctly factoring in our QB and WRs.
I went back and watched the game closer and I was wrong at how good their defense was, but also noticed these route concepts crowding WRs/TEs, choice routes that give the defense leverage, and a lot of plays where all the WRs run comebacks or curls. Like, noticeably frequent. Choice routes are a great tool when the QB and WR/TE are on the same page, but it complicates reaction time because of how fast the QB is required to make reads and the WR has to make the correct "choice" or direction to take a route according to what the defensive coverage shows.
If we're keeping Dak, I think he needs a different coordinator in his ear that will balance the offense more and not have to rely on the pass to overcome mistakes. Such as INTs/fumbles or penalties.
Someone that's less a peer and more a mentor. Someone that can design better rout concepts and scheme. Most importantly, in my opinion, is that for any team to be a postseason success they need to have a really good defense (we do), a smarter offensive scheme and they have to take the running game more seriously. Year after year we are a good running team the 1st half, but the 2nd we are broken. We shouldn't have such an enormous vacancy in the backfield like when Pollard got hurt. That took whatever air we had in the sails. And, we shouldn't beat them up too bad because despite all of that it was still kind of close. The 49ers have been consistently good because they have a great defense and they cycle through RBs and will go "all in" on additions like McCaffery to get to the next level.

If ex-players and fans can see this, why can't Jerry Jones?

 

[MAZEREZAM]

There is video to prove that 2nd pick throw was not at CeeDee's knees or ankles? Why do some posters go to such extremes to say such things when the film shows otherwise? By the way, in the Kurt Warner thread, Kurt Warner explained how that 2nd interception was more on CeeDee instead of Dak. Bad route running. Not the first, second or third interception caused due to bad route running.

He threw a dropped pick-6 on the first play of our 2nd to last drive. A horrible throw.