***Dallas trades Fasano and Akin to Miami for 4th round pick (#100)

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COfWaBnOY;2051951 said:
and getting two of your starting 22 isn't a worth a ton.....any year ..... :confused:



Fasano is in your top 22 on the Cowboys? Who are you, Larry Lacewell? Akin was by far the lousiest 3-4 WILB in the NFL. You can argue we should have got their 3rd, but don't tell me either was much of a loss.
 

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Big Dakota;2051955 said:
Fason is in your top 22 on the Cowboys? Who are you, Larry Lacewell? Akin was by far the lousiest 3-4 WILB in the NFL. You can argue we should have got their 3rd, but don't tell me either was much of a loss.

Akin was decent. Did you ever notice when you watched games he never made plays? You never heard his name called?

Zack Thomas is an upgrade over Aydole. With Carpenter in the wings, and perhaps Burnett maybe stepping up? it makes sense to get rid of the guy.
 

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Not sure why everyone is down on Fasano, I liked him...Disappointed to see him gone...Feel like we got fleeced on this trade
 

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I want to see Carp and Burnett get more PT.

I like this. That 4th Rounder could be Marcus Monk. :)
 

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FCBarca;2051961 said:
Not sure why everyone is down on Fasano, I liked him...Disappointed to see him gone

It was either the dropped TD in the playoffs?

or

the 28 catches for 1 TD in two seasons?

Pick your favorite!

:laugh2:
 

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stasheroo;2051964 said:
It was either the dropped TD in the playoffs?

or

the 28 catches for 1 TD in two seasons?

Pick your favorite!

:laugh2:



I stayed in this thread on post to long:banghead:

God those are terrible numbers.
 

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stasheroo;2051964 said:
It was either the dropped TD in the playoffs?

or

the 28 catches for 1 TD in two seasons?

Pick your favorite!

:laugh2:

Stats can make any argument sound credible but the facts are that he was a situational TE and used mostly for blocking...And when Curtis entered into it, he was in there for red zone work more than Fasano...Guy was tough as nails and could catch the ball...One isolated drop is hardly a reason to sour on the guy.
 

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Coming out of Portland State, Curtis was seen as a physical, blocking TE who needed to develop more as a receiving threat.

The guy's athleticism is impressive. I look forward to him getting more playing time.
 

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stasheroo;2051409 said:
I guess so.

Should I be thrilled by the Fasano era instead?

:confused:


We should at least got a 3rd for then hell we spent a 2nd on the guy :(

Akin was about salary cap no big lose he was solid and we still have Carpenter and Burnett we have depth at the lb position

Still think we got ripped
 

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I think this is a move to aquire more pics for a trade for a vet WR or to move up in Rd1 to get DMC..
 

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Kangaroo;2051984 said:
We should at least got a 3rd for then hell we spent a 2nd on the guy :(

Akin was about salary cap no big lose he was solid and we still have Carpenter and Burnett we have depth at the lb position

Still think we got ripped


Did you hear Jerry on ESPN the other day? He said he's made trades where the other team got better value so he could come back and trade with that team again. I smell a trade down with Miami, who would love to get a Brohm, Henne or Flacco late in the first. I want that 3rd Miami has, which is #1 day 2.
 

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stasheroo;2051964 said:
It was either the dropped TD in the playoffs?

or

the 28 catches for 1 TD in two seasons?

Pick your favorite!

:laugh2:

Go look at the stats for other back up TE's sitting behind top ten TE's on their respective depth charts, and get back to me.
 

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Well well well.

Go out for a walk and dinner with the wife and come back to a near 400 post thread.

A high 4th rounder for two backups? That's decent value -- AND it puts some TEs on the board for us.
 

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abersonc;2051998 said:
Well well well.

Go out for a walk and dinner with the wife and come back to a near 400 post thread.

A high 4th rounder for two backups? That's decent value -- AND it puts some TEs on the board for us.



Sure does!
 

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FCBarca;2051975 said:
Stats can make any argument sound credible but the facts are that he was a situational TE and used mostly for blocking...And when Curtis entered into it, he was in there for red zone work more than Fasano...Guy was tough as nails and could catch the ball...One isolated drop is hardly a reason to sour on the guy.

TEs who can only block and are not effective pass catchers don't have to be drafted in the second round. They don't have to be drafted at all. Find a small athletic OL and just change him into a blocking TE.
 

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Big Dakota;2051994 said:
Did you hear Jerry on ESPN the other day? He said he's made trades where the other team got better value so he could come back and trade with that team again. I smell a trade down with Miami, who would love to get a Brohm, Henne or Flacco late in the first. I want that 3rd Miami has, which is #1 day 2.


norm said yesterday that is what he was hearing. Miami moving up to our 28 for some combination of picks.
 

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Kangaroo;2051984 said:
We should at least got a 3rd for then hell we spent a 2nd on the guy :(

Akin was about salary cap no big lose he was solid and we still have Carpenter and Burnett we have depth at the lb position

Still think we got ripped

Just be glad BP is in the league. No one else gives up a 4th for these two JAGs.
 

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I think this trade is about scheme and flexibility and upgrading.

Fasano was a Parcells guy and intended for a 2 TE offense, which is not a Garrett or Phillips specialty. Fasano was a good character guy here, BUT he has been playing injured for a couple of seasons. Both seasons his shoulder was problematic early and his strength seemed limited all season each year. I think his injury problems are chronic.

Akin was by far the popular choice as our most upgradeable linebacker, why is this a major loss all of a sudden. Yeah decent vet, who didn't make massive mistakes, but also didn't make many plays. To me often invisible and not a 3-4 linebacker IMHO.

Parcells is bringing in his decent vets. These guys will let you compete, but I don't think they put you over the top. The Cowboys want playmakers now. If I'm Miami though, how excited are you to add these guys to a rebuilding team. Not very, just like I felt with many of the older dudes Parcells added to the Cowboys. I'd rather have the young draft picks.

The gamble is you plug in a Zach Thomas who may or may not be over his concussion issues (and how much tread is left). Then you gamble with Pac Man and will hold your breath every week even if he is reinstated.

We will now probably look for a veteran TE or draft another. I do like Curtis, he made plays every opportunity (recovered key onside kick, forced a key fumble on special teams, and caught 3 passes, all for TD's. He's at least a decent pass catching 3rd TE.

Akin and Fasano just weren't great fits out on the field for us, and they can be upgraded or the draft pick can be used for a more critical position.

I like the move. Akin is getting up there too, and I don't even know how much left he had on his contract. He might have been a salary cap casualty during camp anyway, if the team really wants to give Carpenter a chance.

LarryCanadian
 
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