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dcfanatic;2623730 said:
Wow. You are so thick.

Guess what the other offensive coordinators in the NFL do when they need some help?

They go to the ****ing head coach!!!

The fact that we had to hire Dan Reeves to come in and help our OC, who is only in his second season, as opposed to Wade being able to help Garrett is more of an indictment that Wade, in the game for 30+ seasons, is a horrible HEAD COACH!

You have this idea that Wade and Garrett are equals.

They are not!!! One is the other's boss. But for some reason 'the boss' in this screwy equation needed outside help to help his OC.

Wake up!!!

A "real" head coach would be able to fire Garrett and Houck on the spot for not doing their jobs last year and replace them. Wade can't. Wade isn't a real "head coach", but that might not be entirely his fault.
 

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parcells316;2623758 said:
Isn't the Head Coach supposed to oversee every aspect of the football team? I was under the assumption a "Head" coach is concerned about each area of the team. I mean if Wade is only concerned with the defense than he should start getting his resume updated and start applying for DC positions.

I mean Wade's expertise obviously is the defensive side of the ball but the Head Coach should probably have his finger on the pulse of ST and offense.

Of course, when the OC is given as much money as the Head Coach I guess its hard to have any input on the offense. This is the kind of theatre you only get when Jed Clampett is the Owner/GM.


I thought HCs pick their own coordinators to do a job... You know, Garrett wasn't Wade's pick... It's obvious that Garrett's game-planning wasn't to the desire of Wade, so he went out and tried to get his own OC under the title of 'consultant'...
 

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I wonder if this is the sticking point? No coach in title? Dan said he would report to the GM and HC. Reading between the lines and comments about working with the offense makes we wonder if he wanted JG to report to him? Perhaps he wanted the Assistant HC title?

MM: Can you talk any about what your title was going to be?
DR: I thought if I were going to have coaching in my title, I needed certain powers and I wouldn't have those. Otherwise you're just a advisor with no teeth, and I didn't think that was fair or right.
 

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Chocolate Lab;2623736 said:
Props for not shoehorning in a TO bash, though.

Oh he did...

His comments on Terrell Owens are damning for the player.

"There are difference of opinions on him from some people in the organization..."

That goes right along with all the reports about the Cowboys discussing whether or not to bring him back. Do the right thing Jerry and let him move on and send the message that speaking out publicly against your offensive coordinator will get you canned.
 

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DCfanatic - so by your theory of having Reeves here to help out garrett it shows badly on wade?
Then how the hell do you think Bill Belichick in new England hiring Dom Capers as a consultant sits eh?? Does that mean Belichick is a crap coach too? Because no doubt Capers was there to help out the DC!
 

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My bet is that Jerry had a "no blabbing" clause in the contract.
 

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Wow, Jerry is calling into 103.3 right now to offer some kind of rebuttal to all the bashing he's getting, I guess.

So far it's typical Jerry gobbledy**** -- about two minutes and he's said nothing. I'll hold here until he says something.

Okay, Jerry says that not one time in 20 years has any coach had the authority to hire or fire a coach or a player -- it's always been with him. He has every contract and he says every coach's contract has been the same. Bill wanted final authority on the final 53, and I told him I couldn't do it.

Sounds like Dan wants this and Jerry wouldn't do it?

No, wait, sorry, Jerry says it wasn't that. He says it had to do with a time element, but because of the nature of the contract we couldn't agree on it?

Lots of praise for Dan, though.

Jerry is so damned confusing, I can't tell exactly what he's saying. :bang2:

OK, he's going on... My guess is Jerry's saying that every other coach has trusted that something would be done if they agreed on it verbally, but Dan wanted it in writing?

Jerry sounds firm that this isn't going to work even though Dan still wants to. :(
 

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Chocolate Lab;2623796 said:
Wow, Jerry is calling into 103.3 right now to offer some kind of rebuttal to all the bashing he's getting, I guess.

So far it's typical Jerry gobbledy**** -- about two minutes and he's said nothing. I'll hold here until he says something.

Okay, Jerry says that not one time in 20 years has any coach had the authority to hire or fire a coach or a player -- it's always been with him. He has every contract and he says every coach's contract has been the same. Bill wanted final authority on the final 53, and I told him I couldn't do it.

Sounds like Dan wants this and Jerry wouldn't do it?

No, wait, sorry, Jerry says it wasn't that. He says it had to do with a time element, but because of the nature of the contract we couldn't agree on it?

Lots of praise for Dan, though.

Jerry is so damned confusing, I can't tell exactly what he's saying. :bang2:

OK, he's going on... My guess is Jerry's saying that every other coach has trusted that something would be done if they agreed on it verbally, but Dan wanted it in writing?

Jerry sounds firm that this isn't going to work even though Dan still wants to. :(
Jimmy Johnson once showed a portion of his contract on television to prove that he had final authority on personnel moves with the team, back in the days when he and Jerry were still publicly bickering.
 

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Chocolate Lab;2623796 said:
Wow, Jerry is calling into 103.3 right now to offer some kind of rebuttal to all the bashing he's getting, I guess.

So far it's typical Jerry gobbledy**** -- about two minutes and he's said nothing. I'll hold here until he says something.

Okay, Jerry says that not one time in 20 years has any coach had the authority to hire or fire a coach or a player -- it's always been with him. He has every contract and he says every coach's contract has been the same. Bill wanted final authority on the final 53, and I told him I couldn't do it.

Sounds like Dan wants this and Jerry wouldn't do it?

No, wait, sorry, Jerry says it wasn't that. He says it had to do with a time element, but because of the nature of the contract we couldn't agree on it?

Lots of praise for Dan, though.

Jerry is so damned confusing, I can't tell exactly what he's saying. :bang2:

OK, he's going on... My guess is Jerry's saying that every other coach has trusted that something would be done if they agreed on it verbally, but Dan wanted it in writing?

Jerry sounds firm that this isn't going to work even though Dan still wants to. :(
I think Jones confuses himself sometimes. Probably didn't have a clear idea of what he wanted to say when he called in, and then wanted to make sure he didn't say anything too provocative given the way the year has gone, and managed it anyway?

I'll have to see if I can listen to it later, but that last bit has the smell of something suggested to Jones that he didn't like, and considers it first principle not to back down on. There's pride for you: the castle might go to pieces, but at least he still has his principles, whatever they might be.
 

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Jimmy Johnson once showed a portion of his contract on television to prove that he had final authority on personnel moves with the team, back in the days when he and Jerry were still publicly bickering.

The ability to hire and fire seems to boil down to a formality of legalese. All owners are probably technically the only ones who can "hire and fire" since they're the ones who sign paychecks and contracts. Jerry just seems to be the only one who brings it up all the time to prove some point as to what an involved "football man" he is (probably because he wants credit for building those Superbowl teams so badly).
 

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khiladi;2623764 said:
Wait... I thought Head Coaches are usually specialized in one area... You know, like the great Shanahan can't caoch defense worth a dime... Name me one coach that is great in calling offensive and defensive plays.

Bill Parcells. Fact.

Not commenting on your discussion. Just chiming in.


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zeromaster;2623840 said:
I think Jones confuses himself sometimes. Probably didn't have a clear idea of what he wanted to say when he called in, and then wanted to make sure he didn't say anything too provocative given the way the year has gone, and managed it anyway?

I'll have to see if I can listen to it later, but that last bit has the smell of something suggested to Jones that he didn't like, and considers it first principle not to back down on. There's pride for you: the castle might go to pieces, but at least he still has his principles, whatever they might be.

Exactly.

I honestly don't know what Jerry said, and he was on what seemed like forever. He was trying to defend himself, yet still be so vague as to not give away what it was, that I have no idea what he was getting at.

Whatever it was, it didn't make him look any better. At one point JFE brought up what Reeves said about a lot being on his plate, and Jerry almost took it personally, pointing out how Gil Brandt told him when he took over that he was in over his head and he proved everyone wrong.

Typical Jerry... The more you tell him he can't do something, the more he tries to prove you wrong. As in, you say I need help? That I can't do this myself? I'll show you!

I dunno, but I haven't been so mad at Jerry and so discouraged in a long time. Dan wants this job so much, you can hear it in his voice. Then Jerry gives what sounds like lip service to how great he is and how much he could help us. Well if that's true, why not do it?

Because it's all about Jerry's ego, that's what it sounded like. Jerry almost brushed it off like oh well, it didn't work out, that happens all the time.

In between propping himself, of course.

:bang2:
 

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Chocolate Lab;2623854 said:
Exactly.

I honestly don't know what Jerry said, and he was on what seemed like forever. He was trying to defend himself, yet still be so vague as to not give away what it was, that I have no idea what he was getting at.

Whatever it was, it didn't make him look any better. At one point JFE brought up what Reeves said about a lot being on his plate. and Jerry almost took it personally, pointing out how Gil Brandt told him when he took over that he was in over his head and he proved everyone wrong.

Typical Jerry... The more you tell him he can't do something, the more he tries to prove you wrong.

I dunno, but I haven't been so mad at Jerry and so discouraged in a long time. Dan wants this job so much, you can hear it in his voice. Then Jerry gives what sounds like lip service to how great he is and how much he could help us. Well if that's true, why not do it?

Because it's all about Jerry's ego, that's what it sounded like. Jerry almost brushed it off like oh well, it didn't work out, that happens all the time.

In between propping himself, of course.

:bang2:

At least we get to the root cause of the team's myriad of problems - Jerry Jones.

A guy who's skin has apparently been streched so thin that the owner of an NFL team is calling into a local sports show to defend himself.

I honestly can't think of another NFL owner doing that.
 

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Chocolate Lab;2623796 said:
Wow, Jerry is calling into 103.3 right now to offer some kind of rebuttal to all the bashing he's getting, I guess.

So far it's typical Jerry gobbledy**** -- about two minutes and he's said nothing. I'll hold here until he says something.

Okay, Jerry says that not one time in 20 years has any coach had the authority to hire or fire a coach or a player -- it's always been with him. He has every contract and he says every coach's contract has been the same. Bill wanted final authority on the final 53, and I told him I couldn't do it.

Sounds like Dan wants this and Jerry wouldn't do it?

No, wait, sorry, Jerry says it wasn't that. He says it had to do with a time element, but because of the nature of the contract we couldn't agree on it?

Lots of praise for Dan, though.

Jerry is so damned confusing, I can't tell exactly what he's saying. :bang2:

OK, he's going on... My guess is Jerry's saying that every other coach has trusted that something would be done if they agreed on it verbally, but Dan wanted it in writing?

Jerry sounds firm that this isn't going to work even though Dan still wants to. :(

it looks to me like Wade was the major player behind this one, yet Jerry wanted to be as difficult as possible, but still trying to make it look like he wanted it too
 

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viman96;2623772 said:
I wonder if this is the sticking point? No coach in title? Dan said he would report to the GM and HC. Reading between the lines and comments about working with the offense makes we wonder if he wanted JG to report to him? Perhaps he wanted the Assistant HC title?

MM: Can you talk any about what your title was going to be?
DR: I thought if I were going to have coaching in my title, I needed certain powers and I wouldn't have those. Otherwise you're just a advisor with no teeth, and I didn't think that was fair or right.

My 2 cents Jerry wanted a very benign title along the lines of "assistant HC - team manager" or something that is not directly involved in the offense, and DR did not want his title to include the word Coach if he did not have a "real" coaching position. This would seem trivial to a lot of people, but I think DR has to much football pride to take a title without meaning.
 

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screw jerry jones, he has ruined this franchise. turned it in to a joke, a circus, a soap opera that won't win another super bowl until he is gone as gm.
 

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iRoot4Losers;2623860 said:
it looks to me like Wade was the major player behind this one, yet Jerry wanted to be as difficult as possible, but still trying to make it look like he wanted it too

Yep, if Jerry was really in love with the idea of Reeves being here, he would be. This was Wade's idea. Jerry tried to accommodate it, but he wasn't going to bend over backwards to get it done.


My guess is he was basically offered the same job that Zampese had here during the Jack Reilly years. He would basically help formulate offensive gameplans, watch film, work on some X's and O's ... but at the end of the day he could keep his GM advice and player personnel opinions to himself.
 
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