DantheMan Offseason 1.0

[Idgit]

Yes, they need a DE or two, but if Hayden is a starting DT then something went horribly wrong.

I keep waiting for them to upgrade or replace him. They don't seem too worried about it.

I'd be surprised if we were to draft a 1 tech in the first two rounds, anyway. With Bishop developing and Brent extended, my best guess is that position has it's veteran competition, too, unless somebody is available that they just can't pass up on. Can't imagine who that would be, though.

I think we're looking at DEs, and a 3 tech if an alternate deal with Melton can't be reached. Maybe a S someplace, though that probably gets more seriously looked at in the draft.

 

[Sydla]

Cole only missed 1 start.

I don't really know how good Graham really is. He is very quick be he's also short for a DE at 6'1-1/2". He did have 5.5 sacks as a backup this year and he has 17 sacks in his 5 year career. I think he would be a good player to have on the Cowboys team but I don't think he solve all of their pass rush issues.

I shouldn't have said starter. Prior to the Cowboys game, when Cole got hurt, Graham averaged 28 plays per game. Starting with that December Cowboys game, he averaged 46 snaps a game over those last three games. In those games, he got exposed as he was on the field more.

I am not suggesting he's the answer at DE either. Just pointing out that he might not be heading back to Philly as their starting 3-4 OLB if they let Cole walk. Seems some have soured on him being a full time guy to replace Cole.

 

[xwalker]

I shouldn't have said starter. Prior to the Cowboys game, when Cole got hurt, Graham averaged 28 plays per game. Starting with that December Cowboys game, he averaged 46 snaps a game over those last three games. In those games, he got exposed as he was on the field more.

I am not suggesting he's the answer at DE either. Just pointing out that he might not be heading back to Philly as their starting 3-4 OLB if they let Cole walk. Seems some have soured on him being a full time guy to replace Cole.

What were his problems specifically? Did he have problems as a pass rusher or was it something else?

 

[xwalker]

I keep waiting for them to upgrade or replace him. They don't seem too worried about it.

I'd be surprised if we were to draft a 1 tech in the first two rounds, anyway. With Bishop developing and Brent extended, my best guess is that position has it's veteran competition, too, unless somebody is available that they just can't pass up on. Can't imagine who that would be, though.

I think we're looking at DEs, and a 3 tech if an alternate deal with Melton can't be reached. Maybe a S someplace, though that probably gets more seriously looked at in the draft.

Yes, I expect Brent and Bishop to be the 1techs in 2015. Some people think they should sign Paea in FA. He would obviously be an upgrade over Hayden but I don't see them wanting to pay him very much. If he would take a Mincey type contract then I could see it happen. He can play 1tech or 3tech. He might actually be better as a 3tech.

In the draft if they take a DT in the top 3 rounds he will likely be either a 3tech or a 1/3 combo type player.

I'm hopeful that they don't re-sign Hayden because Marinelli might be tempted to start him again.

 

[Sydla]

What were his problems specifically? Did he have problems as a pass rusher or was it something else?

From what I can gather, teams exploited him in the passing game, teams ran at him and he struggled at the point of attack, etc. As he got more non-passing situation snaps and his responsibilities increased, his effectiveness dropped.

I think this is a kid that's just a square peg being shoved into a round hole in Philly. I also don't think he's the solution to our pass rush woes, but for the right price, he might be a good situational guy.

It will be interesting to see what Philly does. They are in a bind at OLB. Cole is old, their top pick Smith looks completely lost so that might leave Graham as their only option.

 

[xwalker]

From what I can gather, teams exploited him in the passing game, teams ran at him and he struggled at the point of attack, etc. As he got more non-passing situation snaps and his responsibilities increased, his effectiveness dropped.

I think this is a kid that's just a square peg being shoved into a round hole in Philly. I also don't think he's the solution to our pass rush woes, but for the right price, he might be a good situational guy.

It will be interesting to see what Philly does. They are in a bind at OLB. Cole is old, their top pick Smith looks completely lost so that might leave Graham as their only option.

If he wants to go the a 4-3, then Philly is just out of luck because they obviously are not going to franchise him.

 

[Kaiser]

I think Hayden will be resigned because there is enough uncertainty around Brent and Bishop (the guys I think will man the position next year also). Those three will compete for the starting spot, which I think Brent will win after a full offseason of conditioning. Then anything you get from Okoye, Whaley and hopefully Coleman is a bonus.

There is no reason not to bring Hayden back. He won't cost much under the rule of 51 and in the worst case scenarios he is the ready-made fill in if another player gets hurt. In the best case scenarios the other players are better and Hayden gets cut in training camp.

 

[MWH1967]

No thanks. I remember a certain FS we drafted from Eastern Washington who ended up being a perennial china doll.

Are you saying all those folks drink the same water?

 

[Bleu Star]

Your underestimating Adrian Peterson. He's never had an elite QB or offensive line. (Minus an old Brett Favre) He still averaged 4.5 yards a carry last year and had 10 tds. Give him our offensive line with his breakaway speed, it could be even better then what we had last year.

To do what he's done with offenses specifically game planning for him, and him only on that offense its been dang impressive. He's defied all logic when it comes to health and his body. I certainly wouldn't bet against him. I'm NEVER in favor of old running backs. But the norm is not the norm with Peterson. He's a rare rare breed. Total outlier.

Father Time is undefeated.

 

[Sydla]

If he wants to go the a 4-3, then Philly is just out of luck because they obviously are not going to franchise him.

The flip side of that is that teams might see him a we do............ he's a situational guy and the Eagles, having a need at OLB, might pay more than anyone else to be their starter.

 

[Titleist]

Are you saying all those folks drink the same water?

One person is a small sample size, but you never know, maybe their conditioning staff is not doing an adequate job preparing their guys for the physical demands of the NFL. Gotta be careful with players from obscure and unproven schools

 

[MichaelValentino]

I'd love to see Peterson in Dallas. And draft Gurley at 27, if there, or Gordon or Coleman later on. Get help in FA for the D-line at either DE or DT (not Suh, great as he is it would handcuff the team for years cap-wise; might get help at both in FA if you can get a lower tier DT like Paea, who is powerful but has short arms), draft another O-lineman and concentrate on secondary, especially in need of a rangy FS. I think we're good at LB if we can resign a few of the guys on the roster but it wouldn't hurt to get another fast OLB in the draft.

 

[MichaelValentino]

Peterson turns 30 in a month. He is a physical speciman. Tony Dorsett was still churning out a 4.36 40 at age 34. Peterson would give us a great running game for at least 2 years (assuming DM is not re-signed). Win now. SB 50 or bust.

 

[Toruk_Makto]

Yet he fumbles at a greater percentager than Murray. He will be 31 in about a month. He has been in the league 8 years to Murray's four, yet he has more than twice Murray's carries. For this nsite to wonder about Murray and his decilne due to work load, and then offer up a guy who has worked more and in 8 years in the league only completed three of them by playing all 16 games is laughable.

Peterson has missed fewer games in his 8 year career than Murray has in 4. Let that sink in.

Oh and what part of Murray isn't in Peterson's universe from a talent perspective don't you understand?

 

[TwoDeep3]

Peterson has missed fewer games in his 8 year career than Murray has in 4. Let that sink in.

Oh and what part of Murray isn't in Peterson's universe from a talent perspective don't you understand?

Yes, I understand. But what is happening here is all you guys are thinking about Peterson from the past. He has over 2000 carries in twice the time Murray has been in the league. He fumbles at a greater percentage. He has off field baggage. He hasn't been a leader with this tea.

The real question is do you understand?

 

[Echo9]

No thanks. I remember a certain FS we drafted from Eastern Washington who ended up being a perennial china doll.

Excellent point. Using a 7th rounder on a player when there was once another player who went to that very same school and was hurt all the time is a huge mistake. Clearly, there's something Eastern Washington is feeding their safeties that cause grave injuries. That place should be avoided like the plague. Just to be safe, I don't think we should send any scouts to Washington at all... just in case there's something in the water or a virus that's manufactured by Eastern Washington's evil genetics department. It could be contagious! Besides, a 7th rounder is far to valuable to use on a guy that will only end up suing the Cowboys after his feet fall off. Who's knows what mischief those feet could get into all on their own. Tripping players... Getting stuck in their sneakers... Causing trauma by hiding behind curtains late at night. They could put our entire secondary on IR!

 

[sureletsrace]

Don't sign AP and either keep Murray or get a different above average free agent and I'm ALL over this plan. Thumbs up.

 

[MWH1967]

One person is a small sample size, but you never know, maybe their conditioning staff is not doing an adequate job preparing their guys for the physical demands of the NFL. Gotta be careful with players from obscure and unproven schools

With that reasoning.....D-Ware would have never been drafted from Troy.....Just saying.

 

[MrPeanutbutter]

Don't sign AP and either keep Murray or get a different above average free agent and I'm ALL over this plan. Thumbs up.

I wouldn't go for an above average FA at the expense of Murray, personally.

 

[dantheman41]

Excellent point. Using a 7th rounder on a player when there was once another player who went to that very same school and was hurt all the time is a huge mistake. Clearly, there's something Eastern Washington is feeding their safeties that cause grave injuries. That place should be avoided like the plague. Just to be safe, I don't think we should send any scouts to Washington at all... just in case there's something in the water or a virus that's manufactured by Eastern Washington's evil genetics department. It could be contagious! Besides, a 7th rounder is far to valuable to use on a guy that will only end up suing the Cowboys after his feet fall off. Who's knows what mischief those feet could get into all on their own. Tripping players... Getting stuck in their sneakers... Causing trauma by hiding behind curtains late at night. They could put our entire secondary on IR!

Guys your reading way too much into those late picks. Those were just guesses. I never did any scouting on them. Just need positions I drafted.