Dare I say: Eli's BETTER than Romo?

[Clove]

2nd and 1

3 wides - Romo pass Witten 1st down easily.

(hurry up)

1st and 10 -

Romo draw Choice here he goes all the way to the 29.

 

[Clove]

1st and 10

9:32 left

Draw to Choice again for 10 yards.

 

[Clove]

1st and 10

Looks like Choice's arm is injured,

Romo back, scrambles hit sacked. No fumble

 

[SacredStar]

What up Clove?

 

[DBoys9to81]

Stop being biased.

Next thing I'll hear is that Allen Iverson is better than Chauncey Billups. People who aren't sports fans will say that's not true, look at AI's stats!!!! Or, if AI were on a good team, he'd be killing. Well... guy doesn't know how to win, and neither does Tony Romo.

You going to say Tony is better than Joe Montana? You guys keep saying, Oh, look at the surroundings Eli has. Look at the surrounding players some of the great players had. Tony has a tremendous team around him. It's part of his job to bring them together and be a leader.

Tony Romo has choked thus far. This game included.

When Tony does bad, it's the team... when he does good, it's Tony. Get some perspectives and stop being biased.

You guys can bring up a game now and then about how Eli almost lost this game or he lost that game, but fans who know better can bring up 3 times as many games that he helped them win. (none of you have brought up any legitimate, well thought out arguement to counteract it, other than some fanboy's biased logic of the game.)

I like Tony, and I think he'll do better in the future, but place the blame on the right group of people, and give the right players the credit. Be a true football fan, for chrissakes.

No, Tony didn't compeltely lose this one, but he didn't do anything to help.

Manning has done his job.... Only a biased, blind, faker of a fan would disagree.

Tony is a choker until he proves it otherwise. In this game it's all about the wins, they don't remember the 5000 other players who put up very good stats that never won jack.

It really is about the wins.... let that sink in. Anyone can name players that have had greats stats that many people don't know about 20 years down the road, but they'll always remember the winners.


My perspective? Is it all over? For this season, yeah. But next season looks promising, IF Jerry gets a better coaching staff. No reason why a team this talented can't be better than this.

 

[BBWC]

there both bad
eli got carried to the superbowl by his defense
eli and romo both blow

When will people learn its not about the flashy stats you accumulate playing against the weaker teams in the NFL early in the season, its about limiting your mistakes, making the tough throws in crucial situations to lead your team on, its about taking the sack or throwing the ball away instead of forcing an errant throw, or getting the ball stripped from behind for the 3rd time in a game. Eli is a winner, he's been a winner his entire career, leading his team to 4 straight playoff berths proves this without a shadow of a doubt. Let the record show that the Eli vs. Romo debate has been settled. Romo just isn't that good folks.

 

[28 Joker]

Eli Manning drives the bus. His running game is the foundation of his offense. He's a good quarterback. He's dangerous.

Manning's offensive coordinator protects him with his play calling and game plans. Gilbride knows how to manage the game when you need to do so, and he has eliminated many of Mannings' turnovers by providing structure within the Giants' offense and passing game. The Giants' offense isn't all based on plays over 20+ yards. They don't play for the big play all the time. Manning isn't holding the ball for ever. Plus, they play smash mouth football and play to their defense. This takes the pressure off your quarterback and offensive line. That is why they are playing, and the Cowboys are not playing.

If Romo had the structure within the Cowboys offense that Manning has, he would still be playing, too.

It is the offensive coordinator's job to provide parameters and structure within the offense, in order for Tony Romo to succeed. Sandlot football isn't going to cut it, and that is what we saw too much this year.

At times, we saw Garrett do this with the running game. However, he was inconsistent. As a result, the offense lacked a true identity and Romo suffered. I think Dallas needs to take a close look at this passing game and offense. It's a high risk, high reward system. When the other teams are saying how predictable your routes or tendencies are on offense, you have problems. When you have a very, very good defense, do you need to take all the risks?

No.

This team can win a Super Bowl with Tony Romo if he is managed and coached right. He needs parameters set for him in regards to managing the game. A less riskier passing game could be deployed and would function as built in structure to limit turnovers. The structure of the passing game and an emphasis on running the football would help Tony Romo succeed.

Far too many times this year, Romo dropped back, had time and...

No player was open.

Jason Garrett is a riverboat gambler. Tony Romo doesn't need a gambling, big play, bomb happy coach. He needs someone to reign him in.

Garrett had a perect drive going today, but he just had to throw the ball on 3rd and less than one in the redzone. Pass.. incomplete.. FG.

Choice was getting 3rd and 1s the entire drive. I don't get the call. Get one yard. Run the ball, keep possession, and then, you can take your shots.

 

[DIAF]

Eli Manning seems to have figured out how NOT to cost his team games. Tony hasn't quite gotten that part yet.

Advantage: Eli.

 

[28 Joker]

Eli Manning seems to have figured out how NOT to cost his team games. Tony hasn't quite gotten that part yet.

Advantage: Eli.

Don't you think Coughlin and Gilbride have something to do with that?

 

[BBWC]

Don't you think Coughlin and Gilbride have something to do with that?

So are we to assume Jason Garrett has plays drawn up in his playbook that call for Romo to run around in circles and throw ducks up in the middle of the field to no one in particular at least twice a game? Or hold on to the ball for an obscenely long amount of time only to get the ball stripped from behind as he carelessly handles the ball?

This year Eli is the bus driver, last year he was the reason the Giants made the leap as the passing game and defense carried them through the playoffs. Eli can be whatever the Giants need him to be on any given Sunday. Can Romo? Last year Garrett was a genius, this year the goat. The constant remains Romo, should no blame be affixed to him? Does he really need someone screaming in his ear that it's a bad idea to throw into triple coverage, or off his back foot, or just in general force plays that just aren't there? Shouldn't he have picked this knowledge up somewhere by now?

 

[CutMeMick]

Stop being biased.

Next thing I'll hear is that Allen Iverson is better than Chauncey Billups. People who aren't sports fans will say that's not true, look at AI's stats!!!! Or, if AI were on a good team, he'd be killing. Well... guy doesn't know how to win, and neither does Tony Romo.

You going to say Tony is better than Joe Montana? You guys keep saying, Oh, look at the surroundings Eli has. Look at the surrounding players some of the great players had. Tony has a tremendous team around him. It's part of his job to bring them together and be a leader.

Tony Romo has choked thus far. This game included.

When Tony does bad, it's the team... when he does good, it's Tony. Get some perspectives and stop being biased.

You guys can bring up a game now and then about how Eli almost lost this game or he lost that game, but fans who know better can bring up 3 times as many games that he helped them win. (none of you have brought up any legitimate, well thought out arguement to counteract it, other than some fanboy's biased logic of the game.)

I like Tony, and I think he'll do better in the future, but place the blame on the right group of people, and give the right players the credit. Be a true football fan, for chrissakes.

No, Tony didn't compeltely lose this one, but he didn't do anything to help.

Manning has done his job.... Only a biased, blind, faker of a fan would disagree.

Tony is a choker until he proves it otherwise. In this game it's all about the wins, they don't remember the 5000 other players who put up very good stats that never won jack.

It really is about the wins.... let that sink in. Anyone can name players that have had greats stats that many people don't know about 20 years down the road, but they'll always remember the winners.


My perspective? Is it all over? For this season, yeah. But next season looks promising, IF Jerry gets a better coaching staff. No reason why a team this talented can't be better than this.

 

[DIAF]

Don't you think Coughlin and Gilbride have something to do with that?

Coughlin and Gilbride were both there when Eli was chucking INTs all over the field and barely keeping his head above Kyle Boller territory comp %-wise. So I think at some point Eli has to get some credit too. The coaches don't throw the passes. But I will admit that wade and garrett ain't doing Romo no favors.

 

[burmafrd]

I think its clear that Romo can make plays that ELI cannot even dream of.
Its also clear that Eli seems to at least right now be a lot more disciplined then Romo is. Also Eli has an O line that is really dominating a lot of the time vs our mess.
Put Eli hear and now and he would be worse then Romo. Put Romo where Eli is right now and the Giants are probably 14-2 or even better.

 

[BBWC]

I think its clear that Romo can make plays that ELI cannot even dream of.
Its also clear that Eli seems to at least right now be a lot more disciplined then Romo is. Also Eli has an O line that is really dominating a lot of the time vs our mess.
Put Eli hear and now and he would be worse then Romo. Put Romo where Eli is right now and the Giants are probably 14-2 or even better.

If Romo were on the Giants he would have been benched in favor of David Carr for playing fast and loose with the football. To say Romo can make plays that Eli can only dream of just smacks in the face of reality as well as logic. How many 4th quarter comebacks has Romo led? Not to mention the hardware that Eli touts, Super Bowl MVP anyone? David Tyree pass anyone? Anyone? Bueller? It's funny to read how many excuses Romo has for the Cowboys failures, its always someone else's fault. But when he plays well and the Cowboys win, that's all him right?

 

[28 Joker]

So are we to assume Jason Garrett has plays drawn up in his playbook that call for Romo to run around in circles and throw ducks up in the middle of the field to no one in particular at least twice a game? Or hold on to the ball for an obscenely long amount of time only to get the ball stripped from behind as he carelessly handles the ball?

This year Eli is the bus driver, last year he was the reason the Giants made the leap as the passing game and defense carried them through the playoffs. Eli can be whatever the Giants need him to be on any given Sunday. Can Romo? Last year Garrett was a genius, this year the goat. The constant remains Romo, should no blame be affixed to him? Does he really need someone screaming in his ear that it's a bad idea to throw into triple coverage, or off his back foot, or just in general force plays that just aren't there? Shouldn't he have picked this knowledge up somewhere by now?

Sure, Romo should know better than throwing balls up for grabs. Yes, I do think he needs some tough coaching at times. Romo loves the big play, and Tony Sparano isn't here to check the Red Headed coordinator who loves the big plays, too.

As a result, I think we saw more gambling this year. More gambling, leads to the possibility of more mistakes. Romo should throw no more than 30 passes per game against teams in our division. If you are dropping back 35-40 times, they are going to get you, eventually.

The first two interceptions at Pittsburgh were low percentage throws and risky. I hold Garrett responsible. It's his offense. He needs to coach him better. Throwing floating passes in the wind, against the number one defense, and in the 5 degree wind chill isn't smart football. At least, get some field position with safer passes and your running game or use screens before you start the bombs away. It's called managing the game.

Callling that pass from the endzone nearly lost the Giants game. Garrett should know better, because the ball was on the ground in the endzone three times this year after he called passes inside the 5 yard line.

Shouldn't Garrett know this? He played with Aikman, and he has been on good coaching staffs. He went to Princeton for crying out loud and coached under Nick Saban.

I'll tell you one thing. Nick Saban wouldn't run this offense like Garrett has.

And...Romo needs to be reminded to tuck the ball close to his chest at times when scrambling. That is what the quarterbacks coach should do. However, it would help if his coordinator wouldn't call long pass plays against dangerous defenses until he has some room to operate. (ex. calling pass plays inside your own 5 yard line) Already mentioned... It would help if the receivers were open, too.

Perhaps, he wouldn't have to hold the ball forever if the offense wasn't verticle or big play happy. The Arizona game comes to mind. Why did Garrett keep looking for the Big Play when the offensive line couldn't block a four man rush, and Adams was playing hurt. They beat the crap out of Romo, because Garrett wouldn't get the ball out of his hand faster in that game. When Romo came back, Garrett made it a point to get it out of his hand in the Washington game. It looked like Garrett tried to do it today, but he got behind too far. Romo was easy prey after that.

Yes, last year the offense was a hit. However, the second time around, teams learn your tendencies and offense better. You need to run the football more, but Garrett was inconsistent in doing this. The LG didn't help at times. One time he would come out and smash a team, and the next week, Marion Barber would get 8 carries and Felix Jones would get zero. What's the result? More pressure on Romo.

Receivers are constantly running deep routes. Last year, Owens made some big plays on shorter throws and had RAC yards. Where were those plays this year.

Romo needs parameters, and I don't think this version of this offense gave it to him this year. Your offense can protect your quarterback through the running game and the structure of the passing game.

 

[28 Joker]

Coughlin and Gilbride were both there when Eli was chucking INTs all over the field and barely keeping his head above Kyle Boller territory comp %-wise. So I think at some point Eli has to get some credit too. The coaches don't throw the passes. But I will admit that wade and garrett ain't doing Romo no favors.

Yeah, Manning should get his credit. He throws it. Your right.

The running game is a quarterback's best friend. Dallas needs to run the football next year. That needs to be their identity. They have the line and three great backs.

That, alone, will help Romo.

 

[Aikbach]

You can dare to say it and no sane individual shall challenge you, Eli is a superior quarterback to Tony Romo; granted one was taken first overall and comes from a family quarterback dynasty and the other was undrafted out of Division IIA college football so it is supposed to be this way.

 

[avaj]

Eli is in the playoffs and Romo is not

 

[Joe Realist]

Of course he is better. He has gotten better every year and won a Super Bowl. But, they don't put the offense all on him. hint.hint.

 

[yazdad]

Please...when you will realize that Tony Romo is a stat padder. Any pressure at all ..he is done. 60 million dollars based on this? He must think it is a joke when he picks up his check. No wonder he is always laughing.