David Moore Lowdown on Dez

[MSCowboyFan]

Read these threads today and look at what fans have said about Dez. What I said is totally true. It's one thing to assume this minor story is true and be disappointed in Dez...it's much different to hear this story and suddenly rip Dez apart as being immature, lazy, Diva, selfish, ect...
This is a small story that allowed some fans to justify their hatred of Dez.

Total BS. I like him just fine but would like him more if he'd grow up and act like a pro. He's a child and always will be. Giving him that deal was brutal stupidity by JJ and his clown posse in the front office.

 

[Alexander]

No, id just like to hear someone say something other than, "unnamed sources"

When has any reporter ever said that "per my conversation with the assistant trainer for the team, this happened."

 

[Zordon]

Let me guess....unnamed sources?
This is a common BS journalism tactic. They make crap up, and hide behind unnamed sources. Hey it's good for their careers. It gets their names out.

David Moore is a damn good reporter. I love Dez. LOVE HIM. But even I am sick of this crap. I'm sick of all the sloppiness that's associated with him, on and off the field. Like I said before, the fact that multiple sources were willing to rat him out to David Moore shows that the organization is frustrated too. The day he signed that massive contract is the day this crap should have stopped. Period.

 

[Risen Star]

I wonder why La'el Collins did not just decide to drop off the grid for a couple of days.

Because Collins isn't a complete idiot.

Everyone would agree if he played for any other team. This guy is one of the dumbest human beings I've ever come across. I am not surprised whatsoever and getting rid of him should be very high on the priority list.

Of course you can blame Jerry for this and that would be correct. Nothing you can do but wait. Tick tock.

 

[Stash]

Whatever, hater.

He is elite.

And there is not a GM in the league who would not look at the fact he has basically had to have his bottom powdered by the owner since he came into the league as a negative.

Randy Moss was 100X the player Bryant is, or ever has been. And he got dumped, more than once.

All of the pain in the ***, diva receivers did. As soon as their teams could afford to get rid of them, they did get rid of them. They went the way of the dinosaurs, replaced by players who could get the job done without having to be coddled and babysat.

But now we're stuck. Already out one year's worth of production out of a $70 million deal, with who knows how much more left to lose?

A little over a year into the deal and I guarantee you that someone is already crunching the numbers about the soonest they can get out of it.

 

[superonyx]

Total BS. I like him just fine but would like him more if he'd grow up and act like a pro. He's a child and always will be. Giving him that deal was brutal stupidity by JJ and his clown posse in the front office.

Just read the couple big threads today and read how so many "fans" have turned on Dez today.
Then tell me these things being said are really just about him having an MRI 1 day late.

 

[Risen Star]

A reminder of why I find it amusing when fans try to compare Garrett to another head coach in the league.

Whatever they might have done there they can't do here. The owner will see to it.

 

[Idgit]

Really, Idgit? That statement coming from you is very surprising. Is this due to his recurring/nagging injuries, or a percieived lack of route running abilities and actual gameplay (lack of game IQ)?

Isn't his endzone presence and ability to beat double and triple teams enough to consider him elite? Do you not have him in at least the top ten in the league?

Genuinely surprised to see you have that take,

He's a great player, obviously. My knocks on Dez are basically that elite CBs can take him out of games and that there are too many times when he drops game-winning balls. Elite players have to make those catches in my book.

Then again, I don't think there are 10 elite WRs in the league right now, so maybe we have a different definition of elite.

 

[Stash]

That's not how this works.
It's up to whoever created this story to prove it.
Is this how you live your life? You just believe anything you hear I guess without needing any proof.
That's what I figured.

No, instead, I live like you and cover my eyes to anything that might offend my fragile sensibilities. I hide from those facts that I may not like. The way that a child does.

 

[Nightman]

Yep. I said the day they signed him that it was a colossal blunder. Should have tagged him for two years and then dumped him. It's what the Patriots would do with a dope like this guy. He's all but done. That knee is compromised and he's got ALL the money he needs. (until he blows it all that is) Just another colossal waste of money by JJ. The NFL's worst GM strikes again.

That is a terrible plan.......you pay top dollar and carry the full load on the cap for 2 years and then lose him for nothing......this way DAL minimized the cap hit and after next year owe him $0 guaranteed money....the have basically team options for 2018 and 2019 for 12m each, no guarantees

 

[Trouty]

He's a great player, obviously. My knocks on Dez are basically that elite CBs can take him out of games and that there are too many times when he drops game-winning balls. Elite players have to make those catches in my book.

Then again, I don't think there are 10 elite WRs in the league right now, so maybe we have a different definition of elite.

Fair enough, Idgit. I, too, think the "elite" word is thrown around too much across the board. Agree to disagree, as they say

 

[superonyx]

No, instead, I live like you and cover my eyes to anything that might offend my fragile sensibilities. I hide from those facts that I may not like. The way that a child does.

Did you say Facts?
You have facts now?
Of course you don't.

 

[Nightman]

He's a great player, obviously. My knocks on Dez are basically that elite CBs can take him out of games and that there are too many times when he drops game-winning balls. Elite players have to make those catches in my book.

Then again, I don't think there are 10 elite WRs in the league right now, so maybe we have a different definition of elite.

I think Linehan takes him out of games.....he is much better on the crossing routes and slants like TO used to be.......get him moving and get him involved....don't just send him on go routes.......he can out jump you or out muscle you but he can't out run you

 

[Zordon]

A reminder of why I find it amusing when fans try to compare Garrett to another head coach in the league.

Whatever they might have done there they can't do here. The owner will see to it.

you're either part of the solution or you're part of the problem. jason is an enabler of jerry and a ****** head coach, he's not helping the situation.

 

[phildadon86]

Did you say Facts?
You have facts now?
Of course you don't.

Really no point in arguing. People here form judgements on players and thats the end of it. Hell, week one Zeke was already a bust.

 

[School]

I've been in Dez's corner through all of his shenanigans, but this incident is starting to push me over to the dark side.

As the second highest paid player on the team, Dez has to be held to a high standard. Dropping off the radar like that for two days is frankly pretty alarming.

If Dez had been tearing it up on the field lately, then this would be a much easier to pill to swallow, but we haven't seen dominant Dez since 2014.

 

[Idgit]

Idgit, I usually agree with you and I was just about to respond with the Jimmy Johnson view of the world that your nuts if you think you treat all players the same. I think there is some truth in that, I know I don't treat my star employees the same way I do the run of the mill average employees. You do treat them differently, but you also expect more of them and you generally don't let them do things that go against what you are preaching as your core values, things such as accountability to your team mates.

Do I think this is a huge issue that will severely hurt the team, no I don't and the lets trade Dez talk is crazy, but I don't think you just brush it off either with a simple fine. You can not hope to change behavior unless you try and make it hurt a little.

I don't know but it looks like our rookie QB was trying to make it hurt a little bit and if so kudos to him and if so wow!

Will this incident be forgotten in a week, probably.

But I don't think you can just accept it as Dez being Dez either.

Why did the organization feel like they had to cover for Dez?

There are plenty of ways to make Dez feel some pain for his actions to try and change his behavior.

But I think just blowing it off as Dez being Dez is a mistake and maybe they are not but it sure looks that way.

Well, I'm not saying they have to tolerate it. I think the fine was appropriate. And if the behavior continues, those would escalate and could, theoretically, affect his snaps. By all accounts Dez is not a stranger to fines from the Cowboys, anyway.

As far as covering for him goes, they were trying to keep the story in-house because there'd be a reaction to it, sure. This way, it came out a day later once they had the results. That's just a PR issue.

As far as the distraction goes, I guess it depends in part on Dez' motivation in missing on Tues. If he's spitting in the face of the coaches, it's one thing. But it don't think for a second it was that. If it's Dez just not getting himself somewhere offsite when he's supposed to or Dez not going because he'd made up his mind to play anyway and didn't want to hear otherwise (both of which I think are fairly likely possibilities), it's not really going to be a distraction or a negative with his teammates at all. In the first case it really is just Dez being Dez. In the second, it'd be more likely to be taken as a positive than a negative.

Either way, it's the kind of thing teams sweep under carpets with their star players routinely. Something less than stabbing with scissors and something more than forgetting to bring your playbook to a meeting.

 

[robjay04]

Between, issues, injuries, and $70 million, there's no way.

If the Eaglez can do what they did this past off season, anything can happen.

It won't happen though because Jerry is the most loyal owner in the league. His kindness to his players is one of his biggest downfall. I can't remember the last time he has traded a player. Can you? Maybe someone towards the bottom of the roster but never anyone memorable.

Even guys who have some value (DWare), he releases them and let's them choose their own team. This is probably why he is so respected among players but it also allows players to walk all over him.

 

[Vanilla2]

Overpaid, Overrated and Over

Over what Brian?

 

[Trouty]

I think Linehan takes him out of games.....he is much better on the crossing routes and slants like TO used to be.......get him moving and get him involved....don't just send him on go routes.......he can out jump you or out muscle you but he can't out run you

Case in point, his TD last week was a route that ended in the middle (kinda -- it was an out that ended back towards the middle), in traffic, out muscling his defender.