Davon Coleman waived for Pellerin

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Mick and Brod talked about it yesterday and thought Coleman was the most likely candidate. If he gets signed, we really have issues if we can't replace his depth next season on the roster.

If they want to say he is a good talent fine, but he was an undrafted free agent. It is not that hard to pick those up. Perhaps the way you worded this did not sum up exactly what theu were saying.
 

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I don't like it. I don't know why they are hanging on to 30 year old OT Tony Hills. I thought Hills would be the cut. Coleman is a young player with upside.

They signed Hills after the game 1 which would make his salary non-guaranteed.

Oh, that's right. Then it really doesn't make any sense.
 

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When did we pick up Hills? Can we even drop him yet?

But either way Davon Coleman is another one of the many late round/undrafted guys that got way too much hype for no apparent reason. He's a dime a dozen DT. No reason to be upset here.

Although that's probably true, I would have preferred that we let that play out instead of keeping an extra OL that was only picked up because of injuries.

Perhaps Dallas has seen enough of Coleman to believe that he isn't worth keeping, but I know I saw some things that I liked before his injury.
 

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Of course, from a numbers standpoint, Brent being activated gives us an abundance of DTs: Melton, Crawford, Hayden, McClain, Brent, J. Crawford (although he can play end, too).

Even keeping both Hills and Hawkins, the OL is only at nine.
 

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Who says he has potential to be a starter?

Probably not Mel Kiper. You'd have to just watch the player and decide for yourself.

He's got a good first step, though, and has gotten the benefit of some snaps in the rotation for us early. A year in the offseason training program and he's going to add strength to that initial quickness and ought to be a young player with upside we can work into our rotation. Especially if we don't pick up the option on Melton and find ourselves in need of 3-tech depth in the offseason. The best way not to reach for a replacement is to have young depth players you can count on.

To give him up with three middling 1-techs in the rotation because we need a backup CB just stinks.
 

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I know the DT I would have released.

I think I'd have let go one of the OTs. They must really like them.
I'd have hung onto Hayden at this point, but I think I might be regretting that T McClain veteran contract about now. If we're moving Mincey/Melton inside with Lawrence back and have Hayden and Brent on the roster with Bishop on the PS, I think we've got that 1-tech pretty well covered. Hate to see us let a rookie who is capable of giving you some penetration go because we've got an MCL sprain to our dime CB.
 

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He was signed off of the dolphins practice squad.....I'm not exactly sure of the rules since they've changed a bunched, but I know you are obligated to pay a guy for a certain amount of weeks once you pull him from another team's practice squad.

What the exact rule is and if it still applies to Hills....I'm not sure.

He must be the oldest player ever on a practice squad.

The requirement is to keep a player signed off a practice squad on the 53 for 3 weeks. They signed him Oct 15, so the 3 weeks has passed.
 

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Should of let go of Hill, I hope nobody claims him but I doubt it he has good upside even started a few games in preseason and played a lot beginning of regular season, I really hope he makes it unclaimed but we needed the spot.

They wait until Saturday to release players because it makes it harder for other teams to claim them.
 

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They must also like what Jack Crawford gives them inside here. He's another player I thought they'd release over the rookies, but I guess not.
 

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They must also like what Jack Crawford gives them inside here. He's another player I thought they'd release over the rookies, but I guess not.

I was surprised when they had J. Crawford active for the last game instead of Coleman, but he played really well at DT.
 

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I was surprised when they had J. Crawford active for the last game instead of Coleman, but he played really well at DT.

I was, too, and he did play well. I'd actually forgotten that he'd played inside there last week, but remembering it makes this move understandable. I don't agree with it still, but you can see where they're ok with their depth with Crawford, Crawford, and Melton.

Hopefully, Coleman makes it to the PS. We're getting to the time of year where bad teams stash young guys with upside, though.
 

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I was, too, and he did play well. I'd actually forgotten that he'd played inside there last week, but remembering it makes this move understandable. I don't agree with it still, but you can see where they're ok with their depth with Crawford, Crawford, and Melton.

Hopefully, Coleman makes it to the PS. We're getting to the time of year where bad teams stash young guys with upside, though.

I was was the GM of an out of contention team, I would cut veterans that were not expected to return and raid all other teams practice squads. With 10 players per team and 31 other teams that's 310 players to choose from. There must be some good prospects in there somewhere.
 

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I was was the GM of an out of contention team, I would cut veterans that were not expected to return and raid all other teams practice squads. With 10 players per team and 31 other teams that's 310 players to choose from. There must be some good prospects in there somewhere.

Yep. Contenders have depth, and the small rosters put good teams in positions where they have to expose depth later in the season as they make injury moves. If you just like 3-4 guys from the very best teams in the league, and are patient, you can get guys who have a little bit of experience, have already made the roster cut (sometimes over mid round picks in their own position group), and who've already had the benefit of an NFL weight room and coaching for a a year. It's like having a couple extra mid-to-late-round picks to take fliers on, and all it costs you are 3-4 roster spots on a bad 53. It makes a lot of sense. Maybe somewhere like Tampa Bay, too, where you've got coaches you know and a similar philosophy.
 

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Yep. Contenders have depth, and the small rosters put good teams in positions where they have to expose depth later in the season as they make injury moves. If you just like 3-4 guys from the very best teams in the league, and are patient, you can get guys who have a little bit of experience, have already made the roster cut (sometimes over mid round picks in their own position group), and who've already had the benefit of an NFL weight room and coaching for a a year. It's like having a couple extra mid-to-late-round picks to take fliers on, and all it costs you are 3-4 roster spots on a bad 53. It makes a lot of sense. Maybe somewhere like Tampa Bay, too, where you've got coaches you know and a similar philosophy.

The Cowboys had Leary on the practice squad in 2012. They're lucky that nobody signed him.
 

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I think I'd have let go one of the OTs. They must really like them.
I'd have hung onto Hayden at this point, but I think I might be regretting that T McClain veteran contract about now. If we're moving Mincey/Melton inside with Lawrence back and have Hayden and Brent on the roster with Bishop on the PS, I think we've got that 1-tech pretty well covered. Hate to see us let a rookie who is capable of giving you some penetration go because we've got an MCL sprain to our dime CB.

I like DT McClain. He is the perfect backup. He contributes blocking on KR and is very good at punt rush in addition to solid rotation snaps. He 'plays the right way' all out every snap in the rotation or on teams.

It's well documented how Marinelli likes Hayden and I get the feeling that he uses him as a standard for effort if not for ability. They use training methods to encourage maximum effort akin to what the military does so I appreciate Hayden being on the team in that context even if I hate how he gets washed on single blocks all too often.

I'm with you I would have released one of the inactive OT.
 
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