Dawn of Justice

[DallasEast]

Three made its money back four killed the franchise but if you want to take this outside I'll role up my sleeves.

III made $20 million. I have zero proof but I don't believe even Christopher Reeve thought there would be a IV.

 

[BAZ]

III made $20 million. I have zero proof but I don't believe even Christopher Reeve thought there would be a IV.

It made 80 million and floats said it was end for Reeves, it wasn't. He's thinking of four and nuclear man.

 

[DallasEast]

It made 80 million and floats said it was end for Reeves, it wasn't. He's thinking of four and nuclear man.

My bad. I must have missed the worldwide receipts. What site has the numbers?

You may be right about Floaty. He can clarify himself but I wouldn't be surprised if he meant more than IV.

 

[BAZ]

My bad. I must have missed the worldwide receipts. What site has the numbers?

Wikipedia will tell you or Google will spit it out like a unit of measurement if you put "box office " after any title.

 

[DallasEast]

Wikipedia will tell you or Google will spit it out like a unit of measurement if you put "box office " after any title.

Thanks. Looks like Google directly ties to the Wikipedia data only. The Wikipedia data was derived from Alex Block and Lucy Wilson's book, George Lucas's Blockbusting: A Decade-By-Decade Survey of Timeless Movies Including Untold Secrets of Their Financial and Cultural Success. I borrowed a copy of the book through Scribd.com. No customary site apparently has a book copy and I detest downloading stuff via torrents.

Usually, sites like BoxOfficeMojo.com, The-Numbers.com, etc., post initial theatrical run data. Block and Wilson didn't include the 80.2 million figure Google and the Wikipedia page posts. The book deals primarily and virtually deals exclusively with blockbuster films--which the first two Superman films were. Instead, the authors inserted a graphic chart called Superman Franchise Films All-Release Worldwide Box Office Revenues vs Production Costs cited on the Wikipedia page. The authors stated their data is gleamed from all re-releases of films from their release date through 2005, adjusted for inflation and average ticket price, and estimates of distributor rentals (for films that ran before the late 1980's).

Although the authors stated average ticket price, the Wikipedia contributors used the CPI figures 99.5 in March 1983 and 202.4 in January 2007 instead of the annual CPI figures of 99.6 for 1983 (Superman III initial run year) and 195.3 for 2005 (the authors' data endpoint). Subsequently, the contributors took the $163.3 million number from the graphic and calculated the CPI ( Current Number X [ Prior CPI / Later CPI ] = Original Number ) as 163.3 X (99.5/202.4) = 80.2 million instead of 163.3 X (99.6/195.3) = $83.2 million.

Even though the numbers are overly inflated to begin with (no pun intended), the Wikipedia contributors may have shortchanged the film's worldwide revenue by $3 million IF the authors' data is sound. The contributors did cite BoxOfficeMojo's estimate annual ticket prices. Ironically, the monthly CPI agrees with the Mojo's 1983 to 2005 conversion. Who knows? Maybe their numbers are closer to right than mine.

http://www.usinflationcalculator.co...and-annual-percent-changes-from-1913-to-2008/

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[BAZ]

Thanks. Looks like Google directly ties to the Wikipedia data only. The Wikipedia data was derived from Alex Block and Lucy Wilson's book, George Lucas's Blockbusting: A Decade-By-Decade Survey of Timeless Movies Including Untold Secrets of Their Financial and Cultural Success. I borrowed a copy of the book through Scribd.com. No customary site apparently has a book copy and I detest downloading stuff via torrents.

Usually, sites like BoxOfficeMojo.com, The-Numbers.com, etc., post initial theatrical run data. Block and Wilson didn't include the 80.2 million figure Google and the Wikipedia page posts. The book deals primarily and virtually deals exclusively with blockbuster films--which the first two Superman films were. Instead, the authors inserted a graphic chart called Superman Franchise Films All-Release Worldwide Box Office Revenues vs Production Costs cited on the Wikipedia page. The authors stated their data is gleamed from all re-releases of films from their release date through 2005, adjusted for inflation and average ticket price, and estimates of distributor rentals (for films that ran before the late 1980's).

Although the authors stated average ticket price, the Wikipedia contributors used the CPI figures 99.5 in March 1983 and 202.4 in January 2007 instead of the annual CPI figures of 99.6 for 1983 (Superman III initial run year) and 195.3 for 2005 (the authors' data endpoint). Subsequently, the contributors took the $163.3 million number from the graphic and calculated the CPI ( Current Number X [ Prior CPI / Later CPI ] = Original Number ) as 163.3 X (99.5/202.4) = 80.2 million instead of 163.3 X (99.6/195.3) = $83.2 million.

Even though the numbers are overly inflated to begin with (no pun intended), the Wikipedia contributors may have shortchanged the film's worldwide revenue by $3 million IF the authors' data is sound. The contributors did cite BoxOfficeMojo's estimate annual ticket prices. Ironically, the monthly CPI agrees with the Mojo's 1983 to 2005 conversion. Who knows? Maybe their numbers are closer to right than mine.

http://www.usinflationcalculator.co...and-annual-percent-changes-from-1913-to-2008/

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So their auld wans both being called Martha was a happy coincidence. Imagine Batman had a concussion from Clark throwing him and hundred yards and said "who the hell is Marsha? " and then murdered him.

 

[Kevinicus]

It's estimated the movie needs to make 800 million worldwide to break even (not counting any home release I think).

 

[Tusan_Homichi]

It's estimated the movie needs to make 800 million worldwide to break even (not counting any home release I think).

It's at $682 million so far and I don't think it's going to have any issue breaking $800 million.

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=superman2015.htm

On a positive note, and I wasn't aware that it was official, but it seems Affleck is writing/directing/starring in the next solo Batman picture. That's going to be one hell of a movie I'd imagine.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1877830/?ref_=nm_flmg_act_6

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

Wikipedia will tell you or Google will spit it out like a unit of measurement if you put "box office " after any title.

My bad. I must have missed the worldwide receipts. What site has the numbers?

You may be right about Floaty. He can clarify himself but I wouldn't be surprised if he meant more than IV.

Great site for this... Boxofficemojo.com

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

It's estimated the movie needs to make 800 million worldwide to break even (not counting any home release I think).

Really?

How is that so?

I'm curious...

 

[DallasEast]

Great site for this... Boxofficemojo.com

True. I've provided links to the site in the past, like this post:

http://cowboyszone.com/threads/dawn-of-justice.345434/page-7#post-6616786

We were discussing worldwide revenue for Superman III, which Mojo has posted its domestic figures for the movie only.

 

[Supercowboy1986]

Not sure if this has been touched at all but what did you guys (and girls) think of Ben afflecks Bruce Wayne/batman?

I liked bales Bruce Wayne more then afflecks but I liked afflecks batman more then bales. Affleck just has more of the "build" of batman that I imgaine to look like if he was a real person IMO.

My fiancé was sold that she liked bales portrayal of both but did "buy into" afflecks portrayal. I didn't think affleck would be a good batman but I was pleasantly surprised.

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

It's estimated the movie needs to make 800 million worldwide to break even (not counting any home release I think).

But... To "break even" really?

Is that true... Based on what figures?

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

Not sure if this has been touched at all but what did you guys (and girls) think of Ben afflecks Bruce Wayne/batman?

I liked bales Bruce Wayne more then afflecks but I liked afflecks batman more then bales. Affleck just has more of the "build" of batman that I imgaine to look like if he was a real person IMO.

My fiancé was sold that she liked bales portrayal of both but did "buy into" afflecks portrayal. I didn't think affleck would be a good batman but I was pleasantly surprised.

Bale made it his own. Problem is... It's not his.

Ben did older/jaded batman better for me.

 

[JohnnyHopkins]

Bale made it his own. Problem is... It's not his.

Ben did older/jaded batman better for me.

I liked Affleck's Bruce Wayne/Batman and, like you mentioned, his is an older version of the character which is different than where Bale's version or even Keaton's version was at in their "Bat-lives."

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

I liked Affleck's Bruce Wayne/Batman and, like you mentioned, his is an older version of the character which is different than where Bale's version or even Keaton's version was at in their "Bat-lives."

I'm sorry but the Keaton love for his batman is crazy. Lol

 

[JohnnyHopkins]

I'm sorry but the Keaton love for his batman is crazy. Lol

I didn't know that peeps were so invested that apologies were necessary .

I personally didn't like Keaton's Batman so much, but thought his Bruce Wayne was really good. If that does end up ruffling feathers I guess I could throw out that I really loved him as Beetlejuice and then slip away while people trade high-fives.

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

I didn't know that peeps were so invested that apologies were necessary .

I personally didn't like Keaton's Batman so much, but thought his Bruce Wayne was really good. If that does end up ruffling feathers I guess I could throw out that I really loved him as Beetlejuice and then slip away while people trade high-fives.

Not really sorry... Lol


Agree. The guy is great.

Beetlejuice, multiplicity, Johnny dangerously, speechless. He flies real well on screen.

 

[DallasEast]

Not sure if this has been touched at all but what did you guys (and girls) think of Ben afflecks Bruce Wayne/batman?
I liked bales Bruce Wayne more then afflecks but I liked afflecks batman more then bales. Affleck just has more of the "build" of batman that I imgaine to look like if he was a real person IMO.
My fiancé was sold that she liked bales portrayal of both but did "buy into" afflecks portrayal. I didn't think affleck would be a good batman but I was pleasantly surprised.

I still prefer Bale's younger Batman over Affleck's older version. In my opinion, Snyder and Affleck tried incorporating traits of Frank Miller's older Batman into the role and didn't quite get it right. He wasn't hardened enough for me. On the other hand, I found Affleck's Bruce Wayne as a good interpretation of what he would have seasoned into. I like his presentation equally as much as Bale's--even though Bale does have three movies' worth of Wayne under his belt at this point.

 

[Denim Chicken]

That's why the Suicide Suad is doing reshoots, to add humor because of the Dawn of Justice bad reviews and it's now dropping in box office sales.

Really? That's lame.