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Doomsday101;2774361 said:
Tireless of giving a guy a chance? I don't predict what his numbers are frankly I don't care about the individual numbers that is like having 13 Pro Bowlers and not winning in the playoffs it is meaningless to the success of the team. RW came to Dallas did not get to work much with Romo and that does play a part in why a QB will tend to look more at guys he has worked with and has chemisty with and a reason why Romo and RW are putting in work now to develop that but you don't understand that frankly you don't understand much just the same bashing because your feelings got hurt because your Boy TO is sitting in Buffalo do everyone a favor go pull for the Bills because it seem you interest is only in TO

My only interest is winning. That 'go pull for the Bills' nonsense is weak. I've loved the Cowboys since I was crapping yellow, and will until I need someone to help me crap. Pardon me for just happening to like Owens' production, durability, and his work ethic. I don't like Roy's production, durability, or his work ethic.

I'm not like your stereotypical pro-Owens poster on this board, I actually have a brain.
 

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EPL0c0;2774366 said:
I think he has a right to ask. If you believe the media (and some fans) he never had a chance in 2008 because every pass was forced to Owens.

He has a clean slate going into 2009, why is anybody questioning him?

Probably b/c it's starting to dawn on people that production may drop....why would production drop....Owens is gone....ok, so then it must be the fault of the guy who's filling Owens' shoes.

Dallas doesn't need Owens for drama...he was the least of this team's problems...

And if this team starts focusing more on the run and a bit less on the pass then the WR numbers will go down but if the end results is a more balanced offense and winning in bad condition that tend to have a negative effect on the passing game and results in a better team I'll take that trade off.
 

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Apollo Creed;2774369 said:
My only interest is winning. That 'go pull for the Bills' nonsense is weak. I've loved the Cowboys since I was crapping yellow, and will until I need someone to help me crap. Pardon me for just happening to like Owens' production, durability, and his work ethic. I don't like Roy's production, durability, or his work ethic.

I'm not like your stereotypical pro-Owens poster on this board, I actually have a brain.

Then please show you have one, because frankly the act is old. You don't know what RW will do this season one way or the other your assumption is he is just a bad WR and we can't win with him. Well we were not winning playoffs with TO and Jones a man known for loyalty to players let 9 mill walk why? Why did 2 other franchise let TO walk? After a while instead of pointing fingers at other maybe you need to look at the guy these people are cutting loose and why? You talk of TO production he has played on quality teams as well with very good QB's and RW? Kitna, Durability? RW and TO both have had their share of missed time and work ethic? I don't know the situation in Det I do know what the reports are in Dallas and that is RW is putting in the work. No one said you have to walk around with blinders on but not giving a player a chance to prove himself is not being opened minded or seeing things clearly is not pure stupidity.
 

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Doomsday101;2774379 said:
Then please show you have one, because frankly the act is old. You don't know what RW will do this season one way or the other your assumption is he is just a bad WR and we can't win with him. Well we were not winning playoffs with TO and Jones a man known for loyalty to players let 9 mill walk why? Why did 2 other franchise let TO walk? After a while instead of pointing fingers at other maybe you need to look at the guy these people are cutting loose and why? You talk of TO production he has played on quality teams as well with very good QB's and RW? Kitna, Durability? RW and TO both have had their share of missed time and work ethic? I don't know the situation in Det I do know what the reports are in Dallas and that is RW is putting in the work. No one said you have to walk around with blinders on but not giving a player a chance to prove himself is not being opened minded or seeing things clearly is not pure stupidity.

I gave him 10 games, and I guess Troy Aikman is just as stupid as I am.

Why would an 0-16 team let their former first round pick walk if he is as bad *** as you want me to believe.

Drop the T.O. talk, my position is that at 37 he's a better WR than the 27 year old Roy. Now answer all the questions I asked about Roy's durability, football IQ, and inability to get past team's 2nd best DBs.

You're getting redundant, I'm out.
 

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Apollo Creed;2774387 said:
I gave him 10 games, and I guess Troy Aikman is just as stupid as I am.

Why would an 0-16 team let their former first round pick walk if he is as bad *** as you want me to believe.

Drop the T.O. talk, my position is that at 37 he's a better WR than the 27 year old Roy. Now answer all the questions I asked about Roy's durability, football IQ, and inability to get past team's 2nd best DBs.

You're getting redundant, I'm out.

Regarding Williams, Aikman didn’t back down from his prior comments that the trade that sent three draft picks to the Detroit Lions for Williams will be a huge disappointment if he doesn’t pan out.

Aikman said the Cowboys had the benefit of doing their due diligence before making the trade, so if it doesn’t work it will have been a huge mistake.

However, Aikman said he believes Williams is capable of doing the job.

"There’s no doubt that I think he can be," Aikman said. "He’s an extremely talented player and I hope he becomes the player. There’s a reason why he was drafted where he was by the Detroit Lions and there’s a reason why the Cowboys stepped up and made the trade. There are a lot of people who have looked at his abilities, his talents, what he’s capable of doing, and now it’s just a matter of putting it all together."

Maybe if you listened to everything Troy had to say but then that does not fit your agenda. I don't know what RW will or will not do I will give him the oppertunity to prove himself before jumping all over him
 

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Apollo Creed;2774387 said:
Why would an 0-16 team let their former first round pick walk if he is as bad *** as you want me to believe.
Apollo Creed;2774307 said:
We gave up a 1st, 3rd, and 6th round pick for him.
You've already answered your very own question on numerous occasions. An 0-16 team received a first, third and sixth pick in exchange for Roy Williams. They already had Calvin Johnson. With respect, this is truly elementary stuff.
 

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Whats funny is Roy Williams is way down on the pecking order of worries for this team.
 

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Apollo Creed;2774387 said:
I gave him 10 games, and I guess Troy Aikman is just as stupid as I am.

Why would an 0-16 team let their former first round pick walk if he is as bad *** as you want me to believe.

Drop the T.O. talk, my position is that at 37 he's a better WR than the 27 year old Roy. Now answer all the questions I asked about Roy's durability, football IQ, and inability to get past team's 2nd best DBs.

You're getting redundant, I'm out.
It's called a salary cap because you cannot exceed it. Look at how much they gave Calvin Johnson. Do the math. You won't even have to ask.

Are the Lions the only team to lose a former 1st round pick due to salary cap reasons? Does the name Albert Haynesworth mean anything to you?
 

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This, Roy, is what you're going to see your entire career here because thats how it is with the Cowboys. The best thing you can do is exactly what you said, forget what they're saying and go about proving to them all the time that you can play in this league and that they're wrong.
 

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Hostile;2774402 said:
It's called a salary cap because you cannot exceed it. Look at how much they gave Calvin Johnson. Do the math. You won't even have to ask.

Are the Lions the only team to lose a former 1st round pick due to salary cap reasons? Does the name Albert Haynesworth mean anything to you?

So you're telling me that we could have had him in free agency? Without even giving up picks?
 

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If Williams can't take criticism now, he'd better produce and produce at least what he's done as a career best or it will get worse. That's what people expect and given the price we paid, it is justified.

What should trouble even his most strident supporter is his deliberate insistance on several key points since he arrived in Dallas. He said after a few weeks, he had the playbook mastered. That wasn't the case as evidenced by his play on the field. He has said repeatedly, he's coachable and he's done it everywhere he's played. Again, not exactly accurate. Fact is, he hasn't done it everywhere he's been. Save Texas and his high school, he's had exactly one "true #1" season in the NFL. One.

Whenever a player says "not me", it usually is.

He's had two very high profile Hall of Famers criticize him and he's feeling the heat given the price that was paid for him. I don't think the criticism he has received has been over the top or unfair. It is simply more intense. Aikman stated the truth and was doing it even when he was a Lion.

What he's experiencing is a step up because now he's not a Lion anymore, he's a Dallas Cowboy and the owner paid a high price for him to come aboard and produce. And he needs to develop a better way to handle the pressure other than ask why is everyone picking on him. It goes with the territory, Roy and it will only get worse if he doesn't step it up. I hope he can, but this reaction doesn't inspire much confidence.
 

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Alexander;2774533 said:
If Williams can't take criticism now, he'd better produce and produce at least what he's done as a career best or it will get worse. That's what people expect and given the price we paid, it is justified.

What should trouble even his most strident supporter is his deliberate insistance on several key points since he arrived in Dallas. He said after a few weeks, he had the playbook mastered. That wasn't the case as evidenced by his play on the field. He has said repeatedly, he's coachable and he's done it everywhere he's played. Again, not exactly accurate. Fact is, he hasn't done it everywhere he's been. Save Texas and his high school, he's had exactly one "true #1" season in the NFL. One.

Whenever a player says "not me", it usually is.

He's had two very high profile Hall of Famers criticize him and he's feeling the heat given the price that was paid for him. I don't think the criticism he has received has been over the top or unfair. It is simply more intense. Aikman stated the truth and was doing it even when he was a Lion.

What he's experiencing is a step up because now he's not a Lion anymore, he's a Dallas Cowboy and the owner paid a high price for him to come aboard and produce. And he needs to develop a better way to handle the pressure other than ask why is everyone picking on him. It goes with the territory, Roy and it will only get worse if he doesn't step it up. I hope he can, but this reaction doesn't inspire much confidence.

very true. And like theogt said he needs to be less thin skinned.

I think the team is going to struggle a little early in the year on offense, I hope williams and some others can keep their heads above water if that happens.

Aikman a couple of years ago called williams the worst route runner he had ever seen...(no, I have not been able to track down the audio yet) and that has stuck with me and is the only thing that scares me about him.

I have a feeling williams will be fine, hopefully fine is worthy to help the team win and back off the dogs.

at the same time, roy was just responding to someone asking him about the negative comments, I think anyway, I dont think he was holding court to whine about it.

hopefully he toughens up a little by next weeks ota's and doesnt throw beef at the hungry wolves.
 

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Just play Roy. It's not gonna stop and you crying about it is not going to make it any better
 

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AsthmaField;2773828 said:
This is the best possible thing that could have happened for Williams. Now he's pissed and can't wait to show everyone that he can indeed be a viable number 1 WR.

He's mad and he's working his butt off *with Romo* in order to prove what he can do.

I think the guy is going to have a really good season. He's got too much ability, he's too smart, his hands are too good, and he has too good a team around him not to succeed.

I agree. If Roy can stay healthy I think he'll do plenty of damage against teams.
 

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Alexander;2774533 said:
If Williams can't take criticism now, he'd better produce and produce at least what he's done as a career best or it will get worse. That's what people expect and given the price we paid, it is justified.

What should trouble even his most strident supporter is his deliberate insistance on several key points since he arrived in Dallas. He said after a few weeks, he had the playbook mastered. That wasn't the case as evidenced by his play on the field. He has said repeatedly, he's coachable and he's done it everywhere he's played. Again, not exactly accurate. Fact is, he hasn't done it everywhere he's been. Save Texas and his high school, he's had exactly one "true #1" season in the NFL. One.

Whenever a player says "not me", it usually is.

He's had two very high profile Hall of Famers criticize him and he's feeling the heat given the price that was paid for him. I don't think the criticism he has received has been over the top or unfair. It is simply more intense. Aikman stated the truth and was doing it even when he was a Lion.

What he's experiencing is a step up because now he's not a Lion anymore, he's a Dallas Cowboy and the owner paid a high price for him to come aboard and produce. And he needs to develop a better way to handle the pressure other than ask why is everyone picking on him. It goes with the territory, Roy and it will only get worse if he doesn't step it up. I hope he can, but this reaction doesn't inspire much confidence.

That's it exactly.
 

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Roy's response........

"Troy?" "Troy who?" "Emmitt?" "Have you not heard this guy on ESPN?"

"OH!" "And I wish 'Irving' well on his 'Lost' spinoff".
 

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I don't have the heart to tell him that we expect him to produce next year and the year after that. That realization might send him to the nearest ledge.
 
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